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    Originally posted by the plastic paddy View Post

    I thought it was a cracking test match. Any Welsh side containing AWJ is going to be trying. The Welsh do have an issue at THP, however, because Francis really locks out their scrum but is a passenger elsewhere. On Ireland’s lineout issues, does anyone else think they might be holding something back for the tournament?
    Finding their jumper:D

    Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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      Where’s my Jumper, Where’ my jumper
      Sultans of PIng.....

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        Earls. It's all that matters to this Munster fan.
        "I don't believe in fairytales," O'Connell once told me, "even though it feels like I've been lucky enough to live through a few. However it ends, I'll feel lucky."
        Donald McRae, Guardian Rugby, October 2015

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          Originally posted by blackwarrior View Post
          Earls. It's all that matters to this Munster fan.
          Murray’s return to form is a massive relief, he looked really sharp today, seemed to be passing properly off his left hand and fully engaging defensively, again. Given the rumours that is hugely positive.

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            Originally posted by the plastic paddy View Post

            does anyone else think they might be holding something back for the tournament?
            With Ireland, I'm never been a believer in this. Even on the eve of the 2015 RWC, Gordon D'Arcy wrote in the IT something like "now, at last we get to see what Schmidt has been holding back". But I was happy with today.


            "I don't believe in fairytales," O'Connell once told me, "even though it feels like I've been lucky enough to live through a few. However it ends, I'll feel lucky."
            Donald McRae, Guardian Rugby, October 2015

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              Originally posted by In Joe we trust View Post
              Well that performance certainly put the England game in context.
              As did England’s performance last night.

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                Stringer was on channel 4 saying after the game that our gameplan won’t work in a QF against SA or NZ, you’d have to agree with him. We do look like a team that’s trying to get to a QF, our ambition with the ball wont get us any further sadly.
                \"Only Pienaar, Botha and Ferris would be in contention for a place on our first 15. That\'s a fact.\" - Tickettout\'s take on Ulster April 2011.

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                  Originally posted by Talking Sense View Post
                  Stringer was on channel 4 saying after the game that our gameplan won’t work in a QF against SA or NZ, you’d have to agree with him. We do look like a team that’s trying to get to a QF, our ambition with the ball wont get us any further sadly.
                  I think we do lack a bit of a cutting edge in midfield, but Ireland may improve if they keep trying to pay the running game and gain some confidence with it; and Earls and Stockdale are a pair of deadly finishers. Also, that Wales team is very powerful defensively in the backs and a hard bunch to get around, Ireland did better by banging away at the fringes of the breakdown.
                  Erse end of nowhere

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                    Originally posted by Spiffy View Post

                    I think we do lack a bit of a cutting edge in midfield, but Ireland may improve if they keep trying to pay the running game and gain some confidence with it; and Earls and Stockdale are a pair of deadly finishers. Also, that Wales team is very powerful defensively in the backs and a hard bunch to get around, Ireland did better by banging away at the fringes of the breakdown.
                    Thats the point, if we bang away at the fringes agains the big teams, like we did today, we ll get nowhere
                    \"Only Pienaar, Botha and Ferris would be in contention for a place on our first 15. That\'s a fact.\" - Tickettout\'s take on Ulster April 2011.

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                      It was a positive game overall. Physically the team stepped up another gear and now look ready for Scotland. The defence was impressive.


                      Attack wise it was a bit disappointing. It was the usual bosh for most of the second half. In the first half there were good signs. The players look like they've more freedom to offload now and throughout the game they did look to vary it up a bit so maybe my perception of the attack was coloured with them being camped in the Welsh 22 for so long.


                      The Welsh are the best defensive team in the world and are impressive in how they can get away with so many rules being bent. That has to be taken into account.

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                        Thoughts from high up in the west stand.
                        today will be a confidence boost for squad,2 wins on trot v Wales helps in that regard.
                        James Ryan fast becoming the new Poc ,what a player. Lineout while improved is still a worry.
                        I would have liked to see us try a few different options off lineout when in their 22,instead it was same each time ,attempt to maul over.
                        Wales looked more threatening with ball in hand, not from close in but in open play ,the JS loop is like a broken record at this stage ,hope we have more up our sleeve than that to unlock defenses. Too often it's one off runners, head down into contact.
                        defensively we were solid and scrum held up well .fingers crossed for Keith earls .
                        emotional day for rory best got a great reception when called ashore .
                        Still there's a light I hold before me
                        You're the measure of my dreams
                        The measure of my dreams.

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                          Originally posted by Cowboy View Post

                          Given that's what we've done under Schmidt since he started I think going toe to toe with bigger sides is the only way you can win.

                          We put NZ under so much physical pressure twice they broke. You try and play you score they score and they'll rip you to shreds.

                          I cannot see Joe throwing accuracy and physical dominance out the window now. Plus England and South Africa are going down that route all year and it's working for them
                          We wont win anything trying to go toe to toe in a physical battle with South Africa. Yes England and South Africa are going that route and its working for them but that doesnt mean it will work for us. It hasnt been our way and wont get us to a semi final.

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                            It’s easy to summarise the RWC.

                            We will beat one of Scotland and Japan, if not both
                            We will beat Samoa and Russia
                            We will contest a QF vs SA or NZ
                            Losing to either is possible, beating them is possible.

                            The Knockouts of the RWC are all on the day, very little between 6 or so of the top 8 teams, whoever turns up, injuries will play a big part, referees interpretations will play a role. Once we are down to 8 it’s a wide open tournament.

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                              Originally posted by Spiffy View Post

                              I think we do lack a bit of a cutting edge in midfield, but Ireland may improve if they keep trying to pay the running game and gain some confidence with it; and Earls and Stockdale are a pair of deadly finishers. Also, that Wales team is very powerful defensively in the backs and a hard bunch to get around, Ireland did better by banging away at the fringes of the breakdown.
                              Stringer is a personality vacuum and shouldn’t be on TV

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                                Originally posted by lawrence View Post
                                It’s easy to summarise the RWC.

                                We will beat one of Scotland and Japan, if not both
                                We will beat Samoa and Russia
                                We will contest a QF vs SA or NZ
                                Losing to either is possible, beating them is possible.

                                The Knockouts of the RWC are all on the day, very little between 6 or so of the top 8 teams, whoever turns up, injuries will play a big part, referees interpretations will play a role. Once we are down to 8 it’s a wide open tournament.
                                You’d just hope that Schmidt’s obvious obsession with the QF which is most likely against the resurgent Boks explains the decision to go for power and bulk with his 31 selection with Ruddock and Klane. This is perfectly fine given Joe Schmidt knows what he doing. I think we all fear another QF exit and in the event that we somehow knockout a NZ or SA, then we can have a crack at winning the thing.


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