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Originally posted by mr chips View Post
Indeed. Of course IJWT came here to tell us how badly a Munster player did - as a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly. The full picture is that tackle success for Earls was 76%, while Stockdale and Kearney made just 57% and 63% of their attempted tackles respectively. Those are both poor, but it's a particularly appalling stat for the man who is the last line of defence, whose place in the squad we were repeatedly told was in large part because of his defensive solidity. That's solid as in lumber, I guess ... By the way, Earls also delivered 6 offloads, twice as many as Stockdale and Ringrose. How many offloads did Kearney make? One ...
Kearney's tackle stats came as no surprise to me, sadly, but I have to say that before the tournament started I would have expected better from Stockdale. He was fairly anonymous as an attacking threat too, and I remember thinkiing prior to the NZ game that he hadn't done enough during the pool stages to justify starting the QF ahead of Conway or Larmour.
Another thing that surprised me is that Furlong(!) had the joint second highest number of turnovers conceded, at 6 - I really wouldn't have expected a bullock like him to have such low figures for retaining possession. On top of that, three of our regular pack featured in the least metres per carry stats - Best, Porter and Healy all made less than a metre per carry, as did Kleyn and Murphy (albeit from much less game time). Just goes to show how badly outmuscled we were up front.
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Originally posted by RichardP View Post
About IJWT, I think the following would apply: "He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)\"Only Pienaar, Botha and Ferris would be in contention for a place on our first 15. That\'s a fact.\" - Tickettout\'s take on Ulster April 2011.
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Originally posted by RichardP View Post
About IJWT, I think the following would apply: "He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
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Ireland Blindside :
Obviously Bok flanker, Pieter Steph du Toit, had a tremendous influence on SA's performance in the RWC and was voted player of the year. Big, powerful, good lineout, tackles, carries, jackles, good hands, is everywhere and has a great engine. All the attributes of a great 6 and certainly better than playing a small, converted openside. Started his career as a lock but clearly.. has the mobility to play 6
Made me think if we have anyone in Ieland like him who could do a similar job in the Ireland team. My nearest match is Henderson. Also, big powerful, can carry etc, soft hands, and a bit of dog. Hendo has played at only lock for a couple of seasons, but when de did play 6, he was a very good one. With some good locks coming through to take care of the second row, Ireland might do worse than reconsier Henderson as a 6 in the PSDT mode.
I can hear the howls of POM fans (I'm one of them) already. But with good pack rotation there is no reason why Ireland's best players all can't play a meaningful role. Smart and early pack rotation was one of Rassie's smartest ploys in the RWC.Erse end of nowhere
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Originally posted by Spiffy View PostIreland Blindside :
Obviously Bok flanker, Pieter Steph du Toit, had a tremendous influence on SA's performance in the RWC and was voted player of the year. Big, powerful, good lineout, tackles, carries, jackles, good hands, is everywhere and has a great engine. All the attributes of a great 6 and certainly better than playing a small, converted openside. Started his career as a lock but clearly.. has the mobility to play 6
Made me think if we have anyone in Ieland like him who could do a similar job in the Ireland team. My nearest match is Henderson. Also, big powerful, can carry etc, soft hands, and a bit of dog. Hendo has played at only lock for a couple of seasons, but when de did play 6, he was a very good one. With some good locks coming through to take care of the second row, Ireland might do worse than reconsier Henderson as a 6 in the PSDT mode.
I can hear the howls of POM fans (I'm one of them) already. But with good pack rotation there is no reason why Ireland's best players all can't play a meaningful role. Smart and early pack rotation was one of Rassie's smartest ploys in the RWC.
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Originally posted by In Joe we trust View Post
Beirne is also an option and probably a better option than HendersonErse end of nowhere
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Originally posted by Spiffy View Post
Yes. I like Beirne. He is a different kind of option. He is probably more subtle, great at the breakdown etc. But I think that Henderson is more powerful/physical/direct and more like Pieter Steph, which was the point of my post.
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Originally posted by Spiffy View PostIreland Blindside :
Obviously Bok flanker, Pieter Steph du Toit, had a tremendous influence on SA's performance in the RWC and was voted player of the year. Big, powerful, good lineout, tackles, carries, jackles, good hands, is everywhere and has a great engine. All the attributes of a great 6 and certainly better than playing a small, converted openside. Started his career as a lock but clearly.. has the mobility to play 6
Made me think if we have anyone in Ieland like him who could do a similar job in the Ireland team. My nearest match is Henderson. Also, big powerful, can carry etc, soft hands, and a bit of dog. Hendo has played at only lock for a couple of seasons, but when de did play 6, he was a very good one. With some good locks coming through to take care of the second row, Ireland might do worse than reconsier Henderson as a 6 in the PSDT mode.
I can hear the howls of POM fans (I'm one of them) already. But with good pack rotation there is no reason why Ireland's best players all can't play a meaningful role. Smart and early pack rotation was one of Rassie's smartest ploys in the RWC.
I think Wycherley or the young Leinster lad, Ryan Baird.
Agree on Rassie rotating smartly. It's alien to Ireland coaches.
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Originally posted by dropkick View Post
I think Wycherley or the young Leinster lad, Ryan Baird.
Agree on Rassie rotating smartly. It's alien to Ireland coaches.
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Originally posted by Munsterboy View Post
Yes, Hendo is a bit more powerful. Don’t think he has quite the pace and agility of Du Toit though. That guy is very athletic as well as a big unit.
Erse end of nowhere
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