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    New Zealand Herald reports SETANTA are in discussions with clubs from France England and Ireland for a super 14 competion. Worth keeping an eye out for

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    while the HEC issues are ongoing, the IRB won't sanction such a league.
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      How are the Gwladers handling this news[img]smileys/thumb-up.gif[/img]

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        #4
        Originally posted by The Dave


        How are the Gwladers handling this news[img]smileys/thumb-up.gif[/img]


        Early days yet ! TAI is his usual thicko self [img]smileys/lol.gif[/img]

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          #5
          <H1>Fears for NZ rugby as European clubs move to poach stars</H1>


          What should the NZRU do to curb the flow of players signing for overseas clubs?



          A rebel breakout by European rugby clubs is threatening to decimate the All Blacks by poaching all their stars and destroying the value of test football.


          The Herald on Sunday has learned that leading clubs in England, France and Ireland are in talks with broadcaster Setanta to set up what will effectively be a European version of the Super 14.


          If the deal comes off , leading clubs in Europe will become even richer and will be operating outside the auspices of the International Rugby Board.


          Clubs such as Toulouse, Wasps, Leicester and Biarritz would have the ability to offer stars such as Daniel Carter and Richie McCaw one million euro (NZ$1.85m) a year and be under no obligation to release them for All Black duty.


          Fears are already mounting that unless the clubs can be persuaded to remain aligned with the IRB, the 2011 World Cup, to be held in New Zealand, will be reduced to a sham tournament where none of the best players are made available.


          New Zealand has already felt the increasing spending power of the European clubs in recent months with Carl Hayman, Aaron Mauger, Chris Jack and Byron Kelleher all signing to play offshore after the World Cup this year.


          Other big names could yet follow.


          Historically, the thrill of wearing the black jersey has helped the New Zealand Rugby Union in its battle to retain players.


          But the European super clubs already have the best English and French players under contract as well as a significant number of Scots, Argentinians, Fijians, Samoans and Tongans.


          NZRU deputy chief executive Steve Tew said: "We are watching developments with considerable interest and are hopeful that both parties can find a solution."


          The hope for the NZRU and the other unions is that over the next month the clubs can be persuaded to either drop their breakaway plans or, if they do go through with them, to create a window where test football can be played.


          Despite these developments, All Black coach Graham Henry is confident that his players will arrive at the World Cup in September focused on the task at hand.


          He is also confident that any breakaway competition will be ultimately doomed. "We have seen in the past, with other sports, that when people try to get away from the establishment they have major issues with quality.


          "History shows that these breakaways have not worked. The game cannot be split."
          "Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too ?" - Douglas Adams

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            #6
            How did Ireland come into all this ?
            "Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too ?" - Douglas Adams

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              #7
              More likely to be England, France and Wales, in reality. Wales have previous [img]smileys/wink.gif[/img]

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                #8
                Originally posted by Point
                More likely to be England, France and Wales, in reality.
                Wales have previous [img]smileys/wink.gif[/img]
                Exactly, IMHO the EDF Cup is what
                turned the GP teams in the first place - more money for that than the
                HEC apparently.

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                  Originally posted by plastic
                  Originally posted by Point
                  More likely to be England, France and Wales, in reality.
                  Wales have previous [img]smileys/wink.gif[/img]
                  Exactly, IMHO the EDF Cup is what
                  turned the GP teams in the first place - more money for that than the
                  HEC apparently.

                  Right place, right time. The BBC were desperate to have some rugby outside of the 6N and paid well over the odds.

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                    #10
                    They now have GP highlights as well, which I would have thought would
                    be more their bag. God forbid ITV or Channel 5 decide they want a
                    piece of the action !!!!!

                    Who'd want the Entente Cordial Cup ? Presume SKY want to keep the
                    HEC.........

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                      #11


                      The idea of a european super 14 just doesn't appeal to me .. if my understanding of the SH super14 is right anyway.


                      AFAIK the SH super14 is non-promotion/relegation, so it's the same teams every year. Half the appeal of the HEC is the changes in teams each year, and the potential for changes.


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                        #12
                        Pile of s**te. Slow news day in NZ..
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                          #13
                          Sounds like rubbish, these are usually just talk.
                          Does anyone remember talk of the rainbow cup? Irish, Saffie Scots and Italians(i think)?

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                            #14
                            anyone?
                            "If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards - checkmate!" Zapp Brannigan

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                              #15
                              Ya, we never heard it being called off, just kind of evaporated

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