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  • Pixie
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    Originally posted by the plastic paddy View Post
    Or maybe some people within BT, a PLC beholden to shareholders, are overvaluing what rugby has. As we saw with the bubble that Setanta created around football ten years ago, things can take surprising turns when the genuine value of a product is ignored.
    And as a company BT have little interest in their customers.
    I left BT some years ago as they were fleecing me.Far cheaper to use an alternative company and yet they have to rent the lines from BT.I know of many people that have nothing but grief from them.
    Customer services don't exist.So they may be focussing their Business strategy on dominating Rugby,but as consumers forget any idea that you are a valued customer,hand over your money and Fek off attitude is what you should expect.
    They remind me somewhat of Saracens attitude to supporters.

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  • the plastic paddy
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    Originally posted by zeno View Post
    If BT want to throw money at rugby then let Sky try and compete. I'm not going to worry about either of them. Maybe we are undervaluing what we have in rugby.
    Or maybe some people within BT, a PLC beholden to shareholders, are overvaluing what rugby has. As we saw with the bubble that Setanta created around football ten years ago, things can take surprising turns when the genuine value of a product is ignored.

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  • lilleexile
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    Originally posted by Drick View Post
    or maybe Sky Sports Park

    or maybe "Sky Sports v BT Park"

    or maybe "f*** you BT Sports Park"

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  • Pixie
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    Originally posted by glorob View Post
    Will the BT Sport Thomond Park be next?
    No dont even think it.I wouldnt be able to go if it happened, I really dont like BT. I'd use pidgeons rather than BT phones.

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  • zeno
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    Originally posted by dropkick View Post
    Not only did they sell out to BT but we're also facing the prospect of the Pro12 being on sky with 50% of the teams having BT on their jerseys. When the next round of TV negotiations come up it could be very damaging.
    If BT want to throw money at rugby then let Sky try and compete. I'm not going to worry about either of them. Maybe we are undervaluing what we have in rugby.

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  • ick
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    Originally posted by glorob View Post
    Will the BT Sport Thomond Park be next?
    or maybe Sky Sports Park

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  • Bitter As A Lemon
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    To wipe out our debt in one fail swoop...bring it!

    It does look thought that the prophecy of BT trying to own the sport, is coming true, and it is now quite obvious why the Scots bailed on us in the last year.

    Even more reason to bate the haggis loving ****es tonight ! :D

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  • sewa
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    If they have the cash why not? I'd be all for it

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  • glorob
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    Will the BT Sport Thomond Park be next?

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  • Piquet
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    Now we see why the Scots rowed in behind the PRL and shafted the other "Celtic" Unions.

    Another step in BT's campaign to "own" the sport.

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  • dropkick
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    I see the Scots have landed another massive cash injection from BT.

    http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/r...rayfield_name/



    This along with sponsoring Cardiff Arms park and also BT being lined up for shirt sponsors for Welsh teams.

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/r...med-bt-6902087



    Not only did they sell out to BT but we're also facing the prospect of the Pro12 being on sky with 50% of the teams having BT on their jerseys. When the next round of TV negotiations come up it could be very damaging.

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  • Munsterboy
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    Originally posted by redherring View Post
    We're talking about the demise of the Rabo but look at the table and the facts compared to the Premiership. The top 4 are home and host in the Rabo. The top 3 in Premiership are home with Bath/Quins fighting for the last spot. That could easily have been Ospreys/Ulster. The lower end teams in England have won less than than the lower end teams in the Rabo. The Scarlets could also have been easily in the mix as well. They are a very inconsistent team. Yes I will take the point that Munster, Leinster and Ulster would not have fielded as strong a team in as many games as Saracens or Northampton. We need to be selling how good a league it is. And not just to England/France but also to ourselves.
    The league was getting really good for a couple of seasons but with the Welsh losing their best players left, right and centre, it is in danger of going into serious decline unless RRW and the WRU do something to reverse the trend. The Scots are getting slightly better but the Italians need a lot of work too.

    Whatever the stats say and whatever we think of the AP, unless we can improve the standard, it simply won't last. European rugby is our cake but the league's our bread and butter and we can't live on cake alone, much as we love the stuff.

    The IRFU and provinces have done pretty much all they can to deliver our end of the deal - strong squads, big names, lots of supporters, excellent stadia. Of late they've even thrown extra resources at our fourth province to give it a bit of a lift.

    They need to see the other unions and teams doing the same or start looking for better partners, and soon.

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  • Waterfordlad
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    Originally posted by The Outlaw View Post
    Isn't what he's essentially saying likely to happen anyway? I have to say I don't find his posts all that bull****ting.

    I don't like them but he's not far from wrong on the basic tenet which is the Welsh have little interest in the Rabo.

    Lenihan is probably right for the top 3 Irish provinces playing in the GP would be infinitely better for the game here and for them as well.

    As regards whether the English would be happy for them to come in of course they would. Guaranteed big travelling crowds along with the general Ireland v England rivalry. Everyone's a winner.

    What it would end is wrapping our internationals up in cotton wool.
    If that were to happen, where would Connacht end up Outlaw? (Genuine question)

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  • redherring
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    We're talking about the demise of the Rabo but look at the table and the facts compared to the Premiership. The top 4 are home and host in the Rabo. The top 3 in Premiership are home with Bath/Quins fighting for the last spot. That could easily have been Ospreys/Ulster. The lower end teams in England have won less than than the lower end teams in the Rabo. The Scarlets could also have been easily in the mix as well. They are a very inconsistent team. Yes I will take the point that Munster, Leinster and Ulster would not have fielded as strong a team in as many games as Saracens or Northampton. We need to be selling how good a league it is. And not just to England/France but also to ourselves.

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  • greenback
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    whether we like it or not money is going to dictate the future of the game,even the mighty Kiwis have to compromise with South African commercial interests regarding the super 15,their scale of population /economy is too small just like ourselves...the real battle going forward will be between the club game and the international game as more money is pumped into the club game e.g French/english leagues...we need to be nimble or we could fall between two stools

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