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    Originally posted by jagawayagain View Post

    Absolutely- it has taken far too long for the other premiership clubs, and English rugby generally, to resist the piratical types like Wray. There has been too big a determination to commercialise and monitise the game, the TV deals, sacrificing audience for cash being a case in point.
    I have a sneaky feeling Tigers are unlikely to be sold and certainly doubt anyone will touch Sorries with a barge pole. Choices for the Premiership to finance itself are few, the RFU are bankrupt of ideas and often short of money as they don't seem to be able keep hold of the huge amounts they earn. The IRFU don't really finance 4 very well and the SRFU are close to going to the wall if you believe what is being mooted recently and they only finance 2 sides. Our model would be alright if the rules were written by someone who knows a bit about big business and a group to enforce those rules.

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      ...and in other news Salaries chose relegation RATHER than open their books to the Salaries Cap people...
      Gwan Joe!!

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        Originally posted by tigerburnie View Post

        I have a sneaky feeling Tigers are unlikely to be sold and certainly doubt anyone will touch Sorries with a barge pole. Choices for the Premiership to finance itself are few, the RFU are bankrupt of ideas and often short of money as they don't seem to be able keep hold of the huge amounts they earn. The IRFU don't really finance 4 very well and the SRFU are close to going to the wall if you believe what is being mooted recently and they only finance 2 sides. Our model would be alright if the rules were written by someone who knows a bit about big business and a group to enforce those rules.
        RFU seems to be a financial sink hole, and is well overdue for reform. On BBC Rowe is saying there is still more to come on the Sorry tale ....

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          Originally posted by ustix View Post
          ...and in other news Salaries chose relegation RATHER than open their books to the Salaries Cap people...
          Whole thing stinks to high heaven, there is more to come on this story.

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            Like what exactly?
            Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue,
            Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!

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              Originally posted by ustix View Post
              ...and in other news Salaries chose relegation RATHER than open their books to the Salaries Cap people...
              Yep, you'd have to imagine there's some major red flags in there for HMRC. Doesn't end here anyway you'd imagine. What will be interesting is if the players themselves are pulled up over what they were involved in. They've gotten off very lightly in all this to date for engaging in what they knew full well was outright cheating.

              Hard to feel sympathy for them as a club or individuals. It's a club that, for all the strength of their side and quality of players, has added nothing much to rugby through their success. That they garnered so little interest and buy in from a major population centre with such sustained success shows them up as a bit of a private clique really.



              "There are probably more annoying things than being hectored about African development by a wealthy Irish rock star in a cowboy hat, but I can't think of one at the moment"

              Paul Theroux

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                Originally posted by Miguel Sanchez View Post
                Like what exactly?
                Who knows?
                Gwan Joe!!

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                  Originally posted by ustix View Post

                  Who knows?
                  Didn't ask you ustix.
                  Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue,
                  Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!

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                    I, for one, find this hilarious. The history books will show that Sarries won three cups but nobody will give a **** about another club that ceases to exist.

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                      Originally posted by ustix View Post
                      ...and in other news Salaries chose relegation RATHER than open their books to the Salaries Cap people...
                      This is the point Rowe from Exeter makes- I’m not sure what happened to all the others nice seeing and will co-operate fully messages that were coming out after the first punishment.

                      While those of us who detest their arrogance and treatment of others’ loyal fans have a certain glee about Sarries being punished, this is really bad for our game as a whole. I hope the ‘home’ unions and various leagues are working in the background to bolster the image of the game.

                      Although it’s not a place I enjoy going- wouldn’t mind being at Allianz Park today- I wonder how many of the sponsors they proudly boast of are getting very cold feet?

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                        Lads, am I reading this all wrong, or does this rule mean they'll need to spend a minimum of two seasons in the championship?

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                          Originally posted by SingaporeMunster View Post
                          Lads, am I reading this all wrong, or does this rule mean they'll need to spend a minimum of two seasons in the championship?

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                          I think they could reasonably argue that if they are below the limit for the time they're actually in the championship that it doesn't apply. The aim of that rule was to avoid Bristol type situations where a club who is stuck down there a few years throws money at people to guarantee promotion.

                          I'd have a feeling that could be the least of their worries. There could be serious ramifications on a legal/revenue side that puts their continued existence in jeporady.
                          "There are probably more annoying things than being hectored about African development by a wealthy Irish rock star in a cowboy hat, but I can't think of one at the moment"

                          Paul Theroux

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                            Originally posted by busby View Post

                            I think they could reasonably argue that if they are below the limit for the time they're actually in the championship that it doesn't apply. The aim of that rule was to avoid Bristol type situations where a club who is stuck down there a few years throws money at people to guarantee promotion.

                            I'd have a feeling that could be the least of their worries. There could be serious ramifications on a legal/revenue side that puts their continued existence in jeporady.
                            The point though is that it’s two years of compliance to be demonstrated, clearly this year isn’t one, given the second punishment.
                            Last edited by jagawayagain; 19th-January-2020, 16:02.

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                              Despite the French cap being 3m higher Lorenzetti wants European action v Salaries
                              Gwan Joe!!

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                                Good BBC piece here....(leaving aside the pro-England bias)

                                Saracens relegation 'is most remarkable scandal in the domestic game'

                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51168926

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