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    20s AIL 2016/2017

    Great to see some good proposals being put forward to try get more teams playing at this grade which would be big improvement on the last few years

    http://www.newcastlewestrfc.com/muns...season-201617/
    • That meaningful and competitive rugby is provided for the Under 20 Age Group.
    • That competitions are provided to ensure as far as is possible that teams are playing against opposition that ensures a competitive contest.
    • That score lines like 50-0 are avoided.
    • That teams are entered who can play on a regular basis throughout the season to ensure that players are playing circa 20 meaningful games in the season.
    • That the default day for games is Saturday afternoon. However floodlit rugby is to be encouraged and games between particular clubs by agreement can be rescheduled well in advance for that weekend window.
    • That teams can field even if the club’s UBL team is playing on the same day.
    • That the Age Limit is Under 20 on 1 July 2016.
    • That this format will be adopted on a one year trial basis.

    Organisation:
    • That Clubs are circulated seeking their intention to enter a team according to the aforementioned objectives.
    • That two x one day blitzes are organised in September/October, one in the north and one in the south with each club participating in both blitzes.
    • North and South Leagues and/or friendlies can be organised over free August and September weekends.
    • Failure to play in both blitzes will be an indication that a club is not in a position to participate in regular Under 20 rugby and that club should then be accommodated in Age Grade to Adult (AGTA) events.
    • The competition will be organised and managed by the current Fixtures Committee – Mick Goggin, Johnny King and Eugene Ryan.

    Schedule:
    • Suggested dates for the blitzes are Sunday 25 September and Sunday 2 October. The blitzes are fixed for Sundays to avoid the Munster v Edinburgh game in Thomond Park on Saturday 24 September at 1500 and Munster v Zebre in Thomond Park on Saturday 1 October at 1700.
    • Venues for the blitzes should have 2 adjacent pitches.
    • The positioning of teams in leagues going forward would depend on their collective performance over the two blitz days.
    • The First Division (Donal Walsh) will comprise of no more than 8 teams and will begin on Saturday 8 October. This could be less depending on the number of initial entries. League Games will be contested on a home and away basis.
    • A Second Division will also begin on 8 October.
    • Alternatively clubs could participate in AGTA events.
    While the North Munster league fixtures have been created. 2 groups of 6
    Section A: Young Munster, Thurles, Thomond, Old Crescent, Nenagh, Newcastle West
    Section B: Shannon, Garryowen, UL Bohemians, Bruff, St Senans

    #2
    Young Munster and Con playing the final of last seasons Donal Walsh Trophy in Tralee on Saturday week

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      #3
      Would be concerned about the limit of the 1st Division to 8 teams. Hopefully if the blitzs show more than 8 teams of suitable standard that they will all be accommodated in the Donal Walsh Trophy.
      Its deja vu all over again!!!

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        #4
        Originally posted by Crescent boy 2 View Post
        Would be concerned about the limit of the 1st Division to 8 teams. Hopefully if the blitzs show more than 8 teams of suitable standard that they will all be accommodated in the Donal Walsh Trophy.
        I wouldn't. 8 teams is loads. Simply have more divisions but have a mechanism for teams who are outside the top 8 to qualify or have a chance to compete for the Donal Walsh Trophy with winners of divisions2 playing 4th in division 1 for a semi final spot or something like that.

        All too often teams have been pulling out of the league so limiting the top division should help that. You can always have more than 1/2 divisions

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          #5
          Went to the MB briefing tonight and asked a question on this and was told that no decision has been regarding number of teams. All will be decided by the blitzs.
          Its deja vu all over again!!!

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            #6
            No info on Munster league yet....
            No games played in North Munster league yet but think there is 1 tonight...

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              #7
              UL Bohs 14 - 26 Garryowen, played on UL G4 pitch.
              A lion online, a lamb at home.

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                #8
                Some results from qualifying pool played in Cork at the weekend
                Pool 1: Cork Con 5 Dolphin 8, Highfield 5 Bruff 10, Shannon 20 Dolphin 0, Bruff 0 Cork Con 17, Shannon 3 Highfield 12

                Pool 2: Garryowen 0 Young Munster 10, UCC 12 Sundays Well 0, Old Crescent 21 Garryowen 12, Young Munster 12 Sundays Well 5, Old Crescent 7 UCC 22

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                  #9
                  Was a bit of a farce by all accounts. Number of teams did not travel. We ended up with 12 players due to late cry offs. Some confusion as to what will happen next weekend. Plus side our winning streak against Garryowen at this level continues.
                  Its deja vu all over again!!!

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                    #10
                    So its a 12 team league which is a joke. Way too many teams. That should be 2 pools of 6 or 3 pools of 4 and then second phase for stronger and weaker teams to get more games against sides of a similar standard

                    Interesting to see UCC fielding 2 sides in the competition.
                    UCC Beagles
                    Sundays Well
                    Cork Con
                    UL Bohs
                    Garryowen
                    Dolphin
                    Bruff
                    Highfield
                    Shannon
                    UCC Bloodhounds
                    Young Munster
                    Old Crescent

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                      #11
                      So lot of league played. Plenty of games conceded. 12 teams is just way too many. Teams have played anything from 6 to 10 games so far and those figures would include games conceded.
                      There needs to be smaller groups and then have a top half/bottom half to give more games with teams playing at a more suitable level.
                      Bruff the only side playing at 20s outside of the two cities isnt good enough

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                        #12
                        The semi finals (Donal Walsh Div.1) are on this Saturday.

                        UCC V Bruff in the Mardyke at 2.30
                        and
                        Cork Con V Garryowen in Temple Hill at 2.30.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Giggsy View Post
                          The semi finals (Donal Walsh Div.1) are on this Saturday.

                          UCC V Bruff in the Mardyke at 2.30
                          and
                          Cork Con V Garryowen in Temple Hill at 2.30.
                          Beagles or Bloodhounds?
                          forti et fideli nihil difficile

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Scrum Five View Post
                            Beagles or Bloodhounds?
                            Beagles

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                              #15
                              Who would be tipped to win the league. No All Ireland as well this season or is there going to be one?

                              Originally posted by ormond lad View Post
                              So lot of league played. Plenty of games conceded. 12 teams is just way too many. Teams have played anything from 6 to 10 games so far and those figures would include games conceded.
                              There needs to be smaller groups and then have a top half/bottom half to give more games with teams playing at a more suitable level.
                              Bruff the only side playing at 20s outside of the two cities isnt good enough
                              Any thoughts on this?

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