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  • TomR87
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    https://www.echolive.ie/corksport/Hu...-v4NmkzBi8ntSk

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  • ormond lad
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    Originally posted by Grace of God View Post
    Well it looks like they will trial a new system for the new season Division 1 & 2, both have got 16 teams renamed Conference A and B. Each conference has two groups of 8 teams based on a geographical area. You play 7 games and then you are ranked 1 to 8. The top 4 in each group qualify for phase 2 against the other top 4 teams from the other geographical group. So a new Phase 2 mini league to decide league winners and runners up. Your phase 1 results against the other top 4 teams in your phase 1 geographical group are brought forward. In Phase 2 you just play the top 4 teams from that other group to finalise your position. So looks like 11 games in total. hope that is clear, hard to explain

    The bottom 4 teams in phase 1 do the exact same as above to decide relegation

    For the year after they could have a leagues of 8 teams or run the same system again but they seem to be leaving themselves open to being flexible next year.

    Well they definitely have changed the structures for sure. The feedback will be interesting
    should give lot more teams things to play for both in qualifying for the top section early in season then avoiding relegation/trying for promotion in addition to AIL cup qualification.

    8 team divisions with change back in challenge cup for all junior 1 clubs would be great step forward.

    at least they've recognised change is needed as formats been quite similar for a long time and needed a shake up!

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  • rugby_oddball
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    Looks like the groups for Division 1 will be - Skibbereen, Clonakilty, Mallow, Crosshaven, Bandon, Old Christians, Muskerry & Waterpark and Kilfeacle, Thomond, Newcastlewest, Abberyfeale, Richmond, Clanwilliam, Galbally and St. Senan's.

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  • Grace of God
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    Well it looks like they will trial a new system for the new season Division 1 & 2, both have got 16 teams renamed Conference A and B. Each conference has two groups of 8 teams based on a geographical area. You play 7 games and then you are ranked 1 to 8. The top 4 in each group qualify for phase 2 against the other top 4 teams from the other geographical group. So a new Phase 2 mini league to decide league winners and runners up. Your phase 1 results against the other top 4 teams in your phase 1 geographical group are brought forward. In Phase 2 you just play the top 4 teams from that other group to finalise your position. So looks like 11 games in total. hope that is clear, hard to explain

    The bottom 4 teams in phase 1 do the exact same as above to decide relegation

    For the year after they could have a leagues of 8 teams or run the same system again but they seem to be leaving themselves open to being flexible next year.

    Well they definitely have changed the structures for sure. The feedback will be interesting

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  • ormond lad
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    Originally posted by TomR87 View Post
    A friend involved with Old Christians has told me that the Munster Junior committee have agreed to a 16 team division 1 next season with Old Christians and Muskerry coming up from Division 2. They also decided their would be no relegation. Absolutely outrageous decision imo
    that just would be worse again. 16 teams as two divisions of 8 is only solution there and then keep that. Fewer teams and then playing home and away is what's needed and then you have more divisions as well.

    You could then change challenge cup/shield back to all junior clubs playing originally for the cup and then have shield etc for those knocked out in round 1

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  • TomR87
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    A friend involved with Old Christians has told me that the Munster Junior committee have agreed to a 16 team division 1 next season with Old Christians and Muskerry coming up from Division 2. They also decided their would be no relegation. Absolutely outrageous decision imo

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  • TomR87
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    Agreed, good opportunity this year to trial restructured leagues. The amount of travel involved is a real bug bearer for players

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  • ormond lad
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    Originally posted by TomR87 View Post
    How do people see the Junior Leagues being organised this year? Will they even start? Shortened season etc....
    hopefully change divisions and make them smaller. 14 teams too many in division 1 and 2.
    Even the 10/11 is too much in division 3. Go down to 8 in top divisions and you can structure season better. Also makes promotion/relegation better as all clubs have something to play for unlike in the 14 team leagues

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  • TomR87
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    How do people see the Junior Leagues being organised this year? Will they even start? Shortened season etc....

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  • quin_dub
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    Originally posted by desert man View Post

    Killorglin were already awarded D3 title and unbeaten. Castleisland dumped from D2 and Tralee on 0 pts. Hardly fair if they stay up and Killorglin stays down.
    As I understood it , anywhere there was "automatic" promotion/relegation they would go ahead , but the round robins etc. to decide the 2nd teams going up/down will not take place so all other teams remain as they were.

    So in your example , Kilorglin will go up, CastleIsland are out , but Tralee stay put and a team like Ennis that finished 2nd to Kilorglin in D3 stay where they are..

    Below is the official notice from the IRFU - I've highlighted the bits that I think are relevant.

    Please see below decision taken by the IRFU Rugby Committee today:



    Dear all,



    On Thursday 12th March the IRFU announced the suspension of all rugby until the 29th March. It is clear that the unprecedented situation that we find ourselves in, will see this date extended with no clear timeline when rugby can resume. The IRFU are mindful that decisions that affect all clubs are communicated early to allow clubs to plan for the weeks and months ahead.



    Following a conference call today of the IRFU Rugby Committee, it has been decided that the current season 2019-20 should come to an end and conclude as from today.



    This decision applies to all competitions in all domestic rugby.



    With so much uncertainty around a possible resumption, it was felt this is the most rational and logical approach to take. As a result, and after discussing the many different permutations and issues that arise around the current standings of clubs in the AIL, it was decided that the fairest way to approach the question of what do we do with the leagues as they currently stand, is to retain all clubs in the positions they are.



    This means there will be no promotion or relegation in the Mens or Womens AIL for season 2019-20.



    All teams will remain in the leagues they are currently in for next season 2020-21
    There will be no Round Robin for Junior clubs
    There will be no Fraser McMullen U20 Cup
    There will be no Junior Interpros
    There will be no Bateman Cup final
    There will be no Womens AIL Cup final

    We will not be seeking to play any games over the summer, nor to play catch up games in August/September. The current season will come to an end and a new season will commence as normal.



    Should a Province have already completed their leagues or cups with the same number of games played prior to today’s date, then clubs may be promoted or relegated as these leagues are already determined. In all other cases, teams will remain as they were. For any cup competition where the finalists are known, the Cup is to be shared.



    The IRFU have spoken to the other three Home Unions and this approach is a view that is shared amongst all four Unions.



    We recognise that some teams that have strived hard and played well to finish at or near the top of their respective leagues will be disappointed but the underlying principle is that this is the fairest way to approach all rugby at this time.



    Kind regards,



    Tanya Abbas Curran



    Irish Rugby Football Union

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  • desert man
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    Originally posted by ormond lad View Post
    no if about it. All leagues stay as they were. All cups are unfinished and if at final stage they are shared otherwise there isnt any winners.
    what else could IRFU do?
    Killorglin were already awarded D3 title and unbeaten. Castleisland dumped from D2 and Tralee on 0 pts. Hardly fair if they stay up and Killorglin stays down.

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  • Viigand
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    It is the right call. Sport isn’t important when people are dying.

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  • ormond lad
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    Originally posted by desert man View Post
    I heard there will be no promotion/demotion this year due to covid. I know context is needed but that would be bs if true.
    no if about it. All leagues stay as they were. All cups are unfinished and if at final stage they are shared otherwise there isnt any winners.
    what else could IRFU do?

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  • desert man
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    I heard there will be no promotion/demotion this year due to covid. I know context is needed but that would be bs if true.

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  • ormond lad
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    Kilfeacle most likely to win division1. 5 points clear of thomond having played a game less. Kilfeacle 10 wins from 10 on 44 points with thomond 8 wins from 11 on 39 and then NCW and Mallow on 36 with west having played 9 and Mallow played 11 games

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