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    Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
    In case you hadn't noticed there is massive TV money and interest in France in rugby who are excluded from the Lions for not being currently or previously British.
    Don't forget a big reason for the big tv money is their 11 month season which is still going on. The tour would be nearly over by the time they would be available.

    Isn't the Lions complicated enough without throwing a few languages into the mix of 'challenges' to be overcome?

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      Originally posted by jeepers View Post
      Don't forget a big reason for the big tv money is their 11 month season which is still going on. The tour would be nearly over by the time they would be available.

      Isn't the Lions complicated enough without throwing a few languages into the mix of 'challenges' to be overcome?
      Complication is a fair point.
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      Originally Posted by mr chips
      AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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        Originally posted by Munstersrebel View Post
        AG bumper off will you?
        Quality argument.

        I suppose it is fair enough - when you don't have point to make - it is probably best to not try and make one.
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        Originally Posted by mr chips
        AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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          Originally posted by sewa View Post
          You clearly just don't get the concept. Fair enough
          I get the concept - it should just be enhanced. Do you get that concept?
          Last edited by AdolphusGrigson; 19th-June-2016, 11:58.
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          Originally Posted by mr chips
          AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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            Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
            The Euro Lions tours would still tour and generate the same amount of money.
            Why would they? There is significant ties that The Lions have between each of the countries that doesn't exist with other European countries and why would the French/Italians want this?
            Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
            With England beating Aus in a series(for the first time) and Ireland nearly beating SA in a series (and may do yet) - even the most loyal Lions supporters must admit there is something of a credibility problem?

            These are changing times - Ireland alone are a significant rugby power - why not move with the times and break the old boys network.Give Grorgia and Italy et al a slice of the pie.

            We are now in the ridiculous situation where we have to talk up the Southern Hemisphere countries at our own expense to keep the Lions relevant.
            There isn't a credibility problem simply because the individual nations are winning series or may win series down in those countries. Why would Ireland make a move that makes them less money. Would the Italians/Georgians want to join the Lions?
            The Lions are very much relevant because its quite unique. The Southern Hemisphere sides are still much better than us, in general/overall, so they are talked up because of that not anything else

            Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
            I get the concept - it should just be enhanced. Do you get that concept?
            There is nothing really true about it that Lions tour has to be enhanced.

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              I wouldn't view that change as an 'enhancement', nor would many Lions supporters. The Lions has history, tradition and makes a tonne of money. Why change it.

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                Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
                With England beating Aus in a series(for the first time) and Ireland nearly beating SA in a series (and may do yet) - even the most loyal Lions supporters must admit there is something of a credibility problem?

                These are changing times - Ireland alone are a significant rugby power - why not move with the times and break the old boys network.Give Grorgia and Italy et al a slice of the pie.

                We are now in the ridiculous situation where we have to talk up the Southern Hemisphere countries at our own expense to keep the Lions relevant.
                So the answer to my question is no. So why break something that is still working and generating (welcome) income every 4 years for the 4 home nations? Plus you might be surprised to learn that a significant number of people enjoy watching the lions tour every 4 years. Sky certainly thinks so as they buy the rights to broadcast the series.
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                  Originally posted by ormond lad View Post
                  The Southern Hemisphere sides are still much better than us, in general/overall, so they are talked up because of that not anything else

                  There is nothing really true about it that Lions tour has to be enhanced.
                  You are obviously not following Ireland and England on tour...
                  ​​​​​​#GiveLeinsterTheHCupNow

                  Originally Posted by mr chips
                  AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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                    Originally posted by McCloud View Post
                    So the answer to my question is no. So why break something that is still working and generating (welcome) income every 4 years for the 4 home nations? Plus you might be surprised to learn that a significant number of people enjoy watching the lions tour every 4 years. Sky certainly thinks so as they buy the rights to broadcast the series.
                    The evidence is Ireland beating SA and England beating Aus in a series.

                    Are you suggesting SKY would not be interested in a Euro Lions- with better players playing against a combined SA, AUS and NZ?

                    It could only lead to greater interest and more money being generated all round.
                    Last edited by AdolphusGrigson; 19th-June-2016, 21:07.
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                    Originally Posted by mr chips
                    AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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                      Only in your mind.

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                        Originally posted by Viigand View Post
                        Only in your mind.
                        I've said it before but there is a Rugby world cup and world rankings. The top team is pretty clear and incredibly consistent
                        My computer thinks I'm gay
                        What's the difference anyway
                        When all the people do all day
                        Is stare into a phone

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                          RFU say Eddie Jones not available as he is prioritising world cup as per his contract.

                          The best man (based on results) doesn't want the job and not allowed by Union to take it - as he has a more important job to do.

                          More evidence of greatest honour blahedy-blah.
                          ​​​​​​#GiveLeinsterTheHCupNow

                          Originally Posted by mr chips
                          AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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                            Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
                            RFU say Eddie Jones not available as he is prioritising world cup as per his contract.

                            The best man (based on results) doesn't want the job and not allowed by Union to take it - as he has a more important job to do.

                            More evidence of greatest honour blahedy-blah.
                            Maybe the RFU thinks our multi million Stg/year coach seems to be able to build a team capable of winning the W/E trophy the first time in (by then) a generation. Why should we let him as first Antipodean take care of the Lions and pay his salary, and endangering previous stated hope.

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                              Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
                              RFU say Eddie Jones not available as he is prioritising world cup as per his contract.

                              The best man (based on results) doesn't want the job and not allowed by Union to take it - as he has a more important job to do.

                              More evidence of greatest honour blahedy-blah.


                              As a lot of the Eng side would be the backbone of the Lions, like Sarries to Eng, cannot see how Jones/RFU could resist testing these players at the highest level possible, a 3 match test series in NZ.

                              I can see Jones taking the task on but on his terms with a modified 12 month sabbatical with a nominated forwards coach.

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                                Originally posted by Stanley View Post
                                As a lot of the Eng side would be the backbone of the Lions, like Sarries to Eng, cannot see how Jones/RFU could resist testing these players at the highest level possible, a 3 match test series in NZ.

                                I can see Jones taking the task on but on his terms with a modified 12 month sabbatical with a nominated forwards coach.
                                England will be banging on NZs door for a 3 match tour on their own (if they haven't already banged).
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                                Originally Posted by mr chips
                                AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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