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  • busby
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    Originally posted by Evil Omer View Post
    sorry but hindsight being massively thrown in there. At the time he was turfed out Gatland had brought us the 14 man lineout, defeat in Lens and a blown GS that was there for the taking. He was not a great coach at that point and was failing. Until EOS joined the coaching staff Ireland were rubbish. Being sacked by Ireland made Gatland and the revisionist idea that we blew having a great coach is just that I'm afraid, revisionist. Gatland was going nowhere near a GS with Ireland, apart from the one he blew by dropping half the side for no reason.
    When he started, he inherited not only a crap group of players, but a rugby system that hadn't yet looked professionalism in the face - what he was expected to do with the pile of horse ****e he had in 99 I don't know. The gears started to grind, and Gatland's improved structure and introduction of a new host of players was the real catalyst for the improvement in Irish rugby. To say it was EOS made the Irish team good all of a sudden is a load of crap.

    The supposed lost Grand Slam was in the year of the foot and mouth when the Scotland game came half a year after the last match, so it's not as if he changed up the team in the middle of a championship. He managed to help the team to beat England (the world class version, not the jokeshop EOS's teams beat) and France twice (Never once did an EOS team beat them, in fact we got implosion after implosion). Gatland had shown that ability to prep his teams to beat the top sides, and has been a regular trait in his Welsh side. It was the hallmark failure of the EOS era, and something Woods was never involved with again after Gatland left. It was a personal move to get him sacked, led by Woods, and got shown up for the cock of a decision that it was.

    Gatland has proven himself as a winner, unlike Woods, EOS and many more spoofers in Irish Rugby who led the crusade against him after he made a winners decision.

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  • Evil Omer
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    Originally posted by busby View Post
    Grill Gatland? On what? On how he's been more successful in his coaching career than Irish rugby has been in it's entire history?

    I thought Gatland came across great last night, and it's a pity the dimwitted bean pole was unable to stretch the conversation past the dropping of one player in a game he ended up winning. "Why did you do it Warren.....But why did you do it?" Jesus, to watch an idiot like beanpole attempt to grill one of the most successful coaches in the game on why he made a rugby decision sums up what has happened Irish Rugby over the last few years The sport of choice for 14 year girls and sport-illiterate male adults on facebook and twitter.

    Keith Wood's lasting legacy to Irish rugby by the way, was to lead a coup to turf out a great head coach who went on to win two Grand Slams (plus another 6 Nations on top of that) and a Lions tour, and replace him with a man who has been unable to get any job coming up in professional rugby in the past number of years. He won nothing with Ireland, or any Irish team. He made a complete and utter tit of himself in all this.
    sorry but hindsight being massively thrown in there. At the time he was turfed out Gatland had brought us the 14 man lineout, defeat in Lens and a blown GS that was there for the taking. He was not a great coach at that point and was failing. Until EOS joined the coaching staff Ireland were rubbish. Being sacked by Ireland made Gatland and the revisionist idea that we blew having a great coach is just that I'm afraid, revisionist. Gatland was going nowhere near a GS with Ireland, apart from the one he blew by dropping half the side for no reason.

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  • busby
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    Grill Gatland? On what? On how he's been more successful in his coaching career than Irish rugby has been in it's entire history?

    I thought Gatland came across great last night, and it's a pity the dimwitted bean pole was unable to stretch the conversation past the dropping of one player in a game he ended up winning. "Why did you do it Warren.....But why did you do it?" Jesus, to watch an idiot like beanpole attempt to grill one of the most successful coaches in the game on why he made a rugby decision sums up what has happened Irish Rugby over the last few years The sport of choice for 14 year girls and sport-illiterate male adults on facebook and twitter.

    Keith Wood's lasting legacy to Irish rugby by the way, was to lead a coup to turf out a great head coach who went on to win two Grand Slams (plus another 6 Nations on top of that) and a Lions tour, and replace him with a man who has been unable to get any job coming up in professional rugby in the past number of years. He won nothing with Ireland, or any Irish team. He made a complete and utter tit of himself in all this.

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  • acskerries
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    Poor wee Gatty has always been a martyr to nasty old Irish boys - mean Keith Fester being a me feiner when Warren was being 100% altruistic etc. Why do they all bully poor Warren? Is he a hidden ginger or something? Thank goodness he made some really good chums amongst those nice sensitive Welsh lads, or his Mum might have had to let him change schools again...

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  • the plastic paddy
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    They are not the All Blacks, they are bloody New Zealand

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  • Stanley
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    Gats has ambitions to coach the ABs, if Tubs had brains the proper question to Gats would be the BOD tackle on 2005 Tour and does he condone it or what would he have done, was it premeditated to take out BOD at first opp.

    The 2013 selection decision on BOD is an easy one for Gats as the end justifies the means.

    The night of the long knives when EOS + others would make for good listening at this point, Gats inteview could be very good value if Tubs aint scared to have a crack.

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  • Jackdaniels
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    Someone needs to explain the meaning of Me Feiner to Warren as he obviously misunderstood it....
    Maybe he meant Fianna Fail-er....ie- Bull****ter? I dunno!

    (anyone else think sacking him has proven a huge mistake by the IRFU?)

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  • bugler
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    If Tubridy did grillings he'd never have got the job.

    Tbh, having read the article, I am not sure the story is as sensational as the headline makes it out to be. Funny that.

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  • Reus
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    Why would he agree to go on if he was going to be grilled? We all know how Gatland feels about the Irish, it's probably going to be a smug exercise of rubbing it in while knowing any difficult topics are off limits. Could be sure he wouldn't be going on had the Lions lost, won't be satisfying viewing at all.

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  • Hugged Rugger
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    Originally posted by Waterfordlad View Post
    Link?
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rug...World-Cup.html

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  • Cowboy
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    Tyan Rubridy is about as useless at grilling guests as the George Foreman machine would be if they put it on the desk instead of him.

    There will be nothing of note or controversy in tonight's interview. Chit chat bout the Irish lions, his time in Galway and how St Joe will do during his tenure.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Who actually cares what Warren has to say about anything.

    The man is a clown. He was a Beale slip away from losing a Lions tour to a much weaker than usual Wallabies side.

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  • Huwie
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    Class! Must record it.

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  • Lemmy
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    Tubridy will grill Mr. Gatland, on the national insult that was to omit Mr. O' Driscoll, on the Late Late tonight.

    Get your pitchforks ready and head to the capital.

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2013/1025...-on-late-late/
    Last edited by Lemmy; 25-October-2013, 12:20. Reason: Attach Link

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  • Waterfordlad
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    Link?

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