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    Who was the sociopath: BOD, POC or ROG?






    John Smit ups the ante for the big meaningless friendly in a fortnight!





    It is the regular-guy manner that strikes you about John Smit. He smiles a lot, speaks with a nonchalance that suggests he doesn’t have much of importance to say and yet has captained his country more often than anybody, and he has been South Africa’s most successful skipper. Perhaps no player has done as much to manage the colours in the rainbow nation’s team.


    There is more to him than meets your eye. Many stories testify to this, one that does so emphatically. Before last year’s Tri-Nations match against Australia at Ellis Park, when Smit was injured and the team had lost four of its previous five games, he was asked by coach Peter de Villiers to speak to the players before they departed the team hotel for the stadium.


    As he wasn’t playing, it was a tough ask. Smit thought about what had gone wrong and judged that Luke Watson’s inclusion in the squad had been hugely divisive. The son of “Cheeky” Watson, the anti-apartheid activist who forsook the chance of turning out for the Springboks to play his rugby with black players in the townships, Luke Watson had been forced on the previous coach, Jake White, by South African Rugby Union officials and now in 2008, many Springbok players were unhappy about his presence in the squad.


    Smit felt that although Watson wanted to play for the Boks, he didn’t enjoy the environment. A bad situation was made worse by Watson rubbing his teammates the wrong way. Behind his back they called him “the cancer”, as they believed he poisoned the atmosphere. For that do-or-die match against the Wallabies, he was a replacement and one of the 22 in the room when Smit began to speak.


    “There are 21 guys here who will bleed for each other,” he said, “and you have to understand that you can’t let one guy disrupt everything we’ve worked for as a team. We are bigger than this one guy, and he shouldn’t be allowed to affect how we feel about each other.” As he spoke, Smit became more emotional. “Passion,” he said, “is not enough. You can talk about passion until the cows come home. Do you want to see passion?”


    He then picked a glass from a nearby table and fired it against a wall. Fragments exploded in every direction, showering the players. “That is passion,” he said, “and it’s gone already. It’s over in a moment.” Individual shows of passion from Watson or any other player, he was telling the group, were nothing compared to the collective will of a united team.


    A week before, the Springboks had lost 27-15 to the Wallabies in Durban. At Ellis Park they won 53-8.


    Smit isn’t always as intense as he was then; mostly his take on the world comes dressed more casually. Remarkably, the series against the Lions last summer didn’t do much for him. It was good to win, he says half-heartedly, but the memories are few and not fond. Perhaps, he jokes, it was his fault for having visions of grandeur about what it would be like. But, first, he wants to share his favourite Lions moment.


    “I was 18 and barely out of school when the 1997 Lions came to South Africa and in my second ever game for the Natal Sharks, I came on as a replacement against the Lions. It was the most amazing experience of my rugby life at the time. When the match ended, Dai Young came to our changing room and said he would like to swap shirts with me. I thought, ‘Oh s***!’


    “This was the first time I was allowed to keep a Natal shirt and this was a special one because it had the British and Irish Lions logo on it. I couldn’t give away my first Natal jersey, even though I would have loved a Lions jersey. ‘Please don’t take this the wrong way,’ I said to Dai, ‘but I can’t give away my Natal shirt, I might never play for this team again.’ He didn’t know what to say and just walked away. I felt bad about it.


    “Half an hour later, I’d showered and our coach, Ian McIntosh, said, ‘There’s someone at the door for you’. Jason Leonard w
    Since we are expected to speak well of the dead, let\'s knock them while they\'re still alive.

    #2
    If your that worried make it a poll
    "You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!"

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      #3


      Originally posted by No Bother
      If your that worried make it a poll




      The only things that worry me are swine flu, testicular cancerand my own mortality.





      Since we are expected to speak well of the dead, let\'s knock them while they\'re still alive.

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        #4
        jeese, od, I'm sure you've rumgded around alot before that now
        "You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!"

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          #5

          Originally posted by The Better Half

          Originally posted by No Bother
          If your that worried make it a poll




          The only things that worry me are swine flu, testicular cancerand my own mortality.




          Are you still pretending to be your wife? Surely you can add things like breast cancer, osteoporosis, etc to make this new persona more plausible.


          It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

          Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

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            #6
            Originally posted by JoeyFantastic
            Originally posted by The Better Half


            Originally posted by No Bother
            If your that worried make it a poll

            The only things that worry me are swine flu, testicular cancerand my own mortality.

            Are you still pretending to be your wife? Surely you can add things like breast cancer, osteoporosis, etc to make this new persona more plausible.

            No Joey, you see I'm not quite like other women - so it's testicular cancer that has me worried.


            (This recent picture of me working out may help you to understand my fears:














            Since we are expected to speak well of the dead, let\'s knock them while they\'re still alive.

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              #7

              Originally posted by The Better Half
              Originally posted by JoeyFantastic
              Originally posted by The Better Half


              Originally posted by No Bother
              If your that worried make it a poll

              The only things that worry me are swine flu, testicular cancerand my own mortality.

              Are you still pretending to be your wife? Surely you can add things like breast cancer, osteoporosis, etc to make this new persona more plausible.

              No Joey, you see I'm not quite like other women - so it's testicular cancer that has me worried.


              (This recent picture of me working out may help you to understand my fears:













              I'd like to say I'm surprised Old Dog/Hooker Larkin is married to a hermaphrodite/ladyboy but tbh, i think we all suspected it.
              It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

              Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

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                #8
                So being against post match beers makes you a sociopath? I always called them dry s**tes, but sociopath sounds much better.

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                  #9
                  There is no way ROG turned down a few beers
                  My computer thinks I'm gay
                  What's the difference anyway
                  When all the people do all day
                  Is stare into a phone

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                    #10
                    He's a bit thickif he can't understand why the Lions didn't want to socialise with them.
                    How can you respect a team that has a thug like Schalk Burger on it or coached by an imbecile like De Villiers?. It's a hard game and you have to be able to give and take the hits but a deliberate attempt to seriously injure a player is a bridge too far. For the coach then to come out and publically say he saw nothing wrong with it. If it was an Irish player who refused to 'share a post match beer' all the better. Correct decision.

                    tbh, how many 6n's games have incidents like that? How many unsavoury incidents do you see in an Eng v IrL or IRL v France? Those teams can enjoy a beer together afterwards because the players have a certain amount of respect for each other and that is seen when they play each other and how the coaches/players refer to the other teams prior and after the matches.

                    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again (like picking Gordon D'Arcy) and expecting different results.
                    Albert Einstein

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                      #11


                      Scotland vs Ireland did. A certain Scottish second row scumbag
                      My computer thinks I'm gay
                      What's the difference anyway
                      When all the people do all day
                      Is stare into a phone

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                        #12
                        I think it represents a significant step forward in the image of Irish people that we could stand accused of not having
                        enough beer while abroad.

                        The lunacy from this rabble continues. Yawn.
                        When I think of all the harm the Bible has done, I despair of ever writing anything equal to it
                        - Oscar Wilde

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                          #13


                          Originally posted by sewa

                          Scotland vs Ireland did. A certain Scottish second row scumbag
                          Are you refering to 'chokegate'? I thought that was EOS's finest moment. In order to have his only OH available for the rest of the 6n's, he claimed that ROG was strangled and not KO as was clearly the case. It was a low point in Irish sporting history. You are right though - I wouldn't blame the Scottish team for not wanting to share a beer with our lot after that disgraceful incident.
                          Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again (like picking Gordon D'Arcy) and expecting different results.
                          Albert Einstein

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                            #14


                            After the above description of the kilted Aussie scumbag mercenary thug, I thought Combatlogo would have been in to defend him now that he is wearing the jersey of south Dublin.
                            Unrepentant Langer

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts

                              After the above description of the kilted
                              Aussie scumbag mercenary thug, I thought Combatlogo would have
                              been in to defend him now that he is wearing the jersey of south
                              Dublin.

                              I doubt he cares about Paul Warwick.
                              Karma

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