Who will ref the replay? How is the ref for a replay determined? Any experts? Sorry, couldn't be arsed trawling as based on experience I suspect this info will not be easily found or transparently explicit.
Who will ref the replay? How is the ref for a replay determined? Any experts? Sorry, couldn't be arsed trawling as based on experience I suspect this info will not be easily found or transparently explicit.
Hopefully Barry Kelly will get it again, I'm not his biggest fan but yesterday he stood up to the usual KK tatics and by and large wasnt swayed by them even with Cody bellowing on the side line.Originally Posted by No. 16
"Everything good about Ireland can be found in County Cork"....Lonely Planet Guide 2012
At this stage Cody is fooling no one with his interviews saying its a man game etc.. Kilkenny are and have been a cynical team
and it only now that the likes of Barry Kelly and Wadding coping on to this. When Galway ran at them yesterday you knew that
there was a yellow card on the way
Tell you one thing, the panel they had on Newstalk fairly laid into Barry Kelly during the match. Thought it was in very poor taste.
I am the million man.
Going on history as it does not happen too often ,but in 2000 Kerry and Galway drew in the AI Football final and there was a different referee for the replay.
Otaga Daily Times 2/5/2012
Taz-Where did you get that information as I have seen nowhere that he(Penney) was ruled out?
Editor - The writer stands by the Penney information.
Otaga Daily Times 3/5/2012
Editor-- This article originally said Rob Penney had missed out on the Munster coaching job. That information was incorrect.
Well Cowboy when Newstalk have to rely on the likes of Colm Parkinson for his views on the GAA i think that tells its own story..
Whilst Michael Duignan is good on RTE he finds all collsions accidental and there is never any intent.. I sometimes wonder does
he actually believe that himself especially when the cats are involved.
Just read in the Examiner that there will be a different ref for the replay in line with their usual practice, hopefully he'll be as strong as Kelly was yesterday.
Duignan is a curse inflicted on GAA followers, utterly useless and completely devastated that he was born in Offlay instead of Kilkenny, they really need to do something with him, he's a wlking talking advert for refusal to pay a tv licience.
"Everything good about Ireland can be found in County Cork"....Lonely Planet Guide 2012
So it's not just Daithi Regan, of whom you seem to have a poor opinion.
Are there (m)any other Offalians on your **** list?
“We’re in this mess, not because Fianna Fail policies have failed, but because they have succeeded.” They haven't gone away, you know"
Ex-Offaly hurler and greyhound admirer Basil 'BIFFO' Cowen immediately springs to my mind. Whatever happened to him after he gave up de hurling?
Purely as a matter of interest, has Offaly ever produced an international rugby player? Or even an Interpro? I'm sure they have, but her name escapes me.
It was a great game of hurling, and a great antidote to the pathetic shouldering contests of the last three years where anything was fair game. Hopefully whoever they'll get for the replay will ref it in the same manner.
Galway had Kilkenny well rattled and Cody showed that more than anyone. I'd expect them to push on.
"There are probably more annoying things than being hectored about African development by a wealthy Irish rock star in a cowboy hat, but I can't think of one at the moment"
Paul Theroux
I played rugby with Duignan and he was a fine player. He played for Connacht at underage but not sure if he actually got in at senior level.
Mike Devine from Shannonbridge played for Connacht.
The Offaly men are great to play with as they all tend to be tough bastxxxs.
When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began to suspect Hungry
We had our chances to win yesterday. A lack of composure before half time giving away some soft frees. The great defending was very often undone by blind clearances to another Kilkenny players.
Galway had them on the rack with pure speed in the first half. Kilkenny with Henry and Hogan great and team experience getting them back into it.
I felt Cunningham and all the Galway lads will learn more from today then the cats will learn. That game will improve the Galway lads.
Its was a great game and the level of skill and heart were great.
Galway to serve it up again but win the replay.
When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began to suspect Hungry
I'm surprised at you OD. Have you forgotten Willie Burns of Lansdowne, Leinster and the Ba Bas. Captained the Irish Schools in Australia in 1980
You must remember his brother Jimmy who captained UCD in 1975-6. Another brother Tommy captained DUFC in either 74-75 or 76-77
“We’re in this mess, not because Fianna Fail policies have failed, but because they have succeeded.” They haven't gone away, you know"
I don't think the boul' Biffo ever played hurling for Offaly. He's from Clara, remember.
“We’re in this mess, not because Fianna Fail policies have failed, but because they have succeeded.” They haven't gone away, you know"
Looking at the pictures in today's Exa of Cody getting stuck into Cunningham, it really is ugly, red-faced bullying, and no two ways about it.
Vorsprung durch Pfennig.
Think you could be right. Both teams now know the Leinster final wasn't a fluke, and Galway can go toe-to-toe with Kilkenny, and pull back a lead.
Vorsprung durch Pfennig.
http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-video...urling-replay/
The GAA is happy to confirm the following ticket reductions for the 2012 GAA Hurling final replay between Galway and Kilkenny at Croke Park on September 30; Stand €50 (down from €80) and Terrace €25 (down from €40). The GAA will also make available children's tickets costing €10 in the usual designated areas within the stadium and expect to sell in excess of 5,000 of these tickets.
The Association can also confirm that the replay date for the hurling final was part of its fixtures master-plan that was finalised last December.
The minor final replay meeting of Dublin and Tipperary will also take place on the same day as the senior replay and throw-in times will be the same as yesterday – minor 1.15 and senior 3.30.
Match officials for both fixtures will be confirmed in due course.
Otaga Daily Times 2/5/2012
Taz-Where did you get that information as I have seen nowhere that he(Penney) was ruled out?
Editor - The writer stands by the Penney information.
Otaga Daily Times 3/5/2012
Editor-- This article originally said Rob Penney had missed out on the Munster coaching job. That information was incorrect.
Me? I never uttered a word about Daithi Regan, I have nothing against him whatsoever. Duignan is and will always remain a tool, his inability to co-commentate really grates me as he is keeping somebody intelligent and coherent from doing a proper job of it.
"Everything good about Ireland can be found in County Cork"....Lonely Planet Guide 2012
Any missed free will come back to bite.
And as usual they did.
Nice to see Cody really rattled at the end of the game. Suppose we'll see a 'free-flowing' game for the replay now that Kelly is being made the scapegoat for KK not getting their hands on McCarthy in the first instance.
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Minor game was a great spectacle even if Tipp didn't turn up for the first half. Young Dubs have 4 or 5 great players for the future there (Winters, Costello and O'Callaghan really caught the eye). Tipp can thank young McGrath for keeping 'em in touch with some great placed balls (+ that bullet) in the first half.
Hope the weather is OK for the replay.
I must be mixing you up with someone else. Sorry about that.
“We’re in this mess, not because Fianna Fail policies have failed, but because they have succeeded.” They haven't gone away, you know"
Thought Shefflin bottled it. He took the game by the scruff of the neck, dragged Kilkenny back into the game in the second half. An all time great, possibly one of the greatest. With 2 minutes to go in normal time he had the chance to score a goal and put the game beyond Galway. He has scored goals from many penalties in the past. For him, the script could not have been written any better for him. This was his moment. One shot for hurling immortality, to clinch his ninth All-Ireland medal and win the game for his team, a Kilkennyteam which has been so ruthless and calculated in its ways for many years now. If they have you on the rack, they will knock you out. All they need is one chance. He had that chance, for Kilkenny, for himself. Shefflin, one shot and then he would arguably become the greatest of all time. But, I think he shirked it.
Maybe you didn't hear him last night.
He had one saved earlier, so there was doubt he might get a goal anyway. Had it been saved - likely - he'd be murdered by his own support. He said that he trusted the backs to deliver the ball up again or at least not to allow a score.
Thought he was one of the few KK players to deliver on the day. And yes, he was a little better that JC in his free-taking too.
I didn't hear him last night. I can see the logic in his thinking. Personally I would always be the opinion that one should take the score when the chance arises. Especially in rugby, if there are 3 points on offer, I would always take it. I see what you're saying and what Shefflin is saying. I'm just disappointed that he didn't go for it. He would have been on the fornt page of every newspaper today. He is and has been magnificaent, I'm a great admirer of his. If Kilkenny don't win this All-Ireland though, I think that penalty will always linger at the back of his mind. The earlier miss was a 21-yard free. This was a penalty and there were only 3 players on the line. He delivered on the day, undoubtedly. I just think if he scored the goal, then this would have bee none of the greatest performances ever in an All-Ireland final.
Yep, that was a 21 all right, but with Skehil on form and Henry probably feeling the effects of over an hours hard play, he was probably of the opinion that a point was better than it being saved. That was his judgement and decision; you could also point to a lot of other stuff, for instance Canning missing a very scorable chance about the same time. Cody backed him on the decision too.
I found some of the misses a bit hard to comprehend yesterday. KK had a lot of wides in the 1st half, way off their usual standards. Likewise Galway had a few bad misses into the same goal in the 2nd half. Someone reckoned there was a swirling breeze around that goal. Dunno, but could explain a bit.
Apparently Canning kept the trajectory of the last free very low, only 4 or 5 yards over the bar in the end, to avoid the wind so there must have been something in it alright
Classic Lievremont
The blatant bias when it comes to Kilkenny is beyond annoying. If it's Cork or Tipp or Galway even, it's dirty play, pure and simple, but when it's Kilkenny and Shefflin (who can do no wrong) it's a "mans game" playing to the edge of the rules, no malice etc.
They are dirty, dirty players. Referee's never ref them the way they should. I'm not saying they are not fantastic hurlers, they are, but they play dirty and get away with it, and have been for far to long.
I wish someone would just call it as it is. Great hurlers and all but beyond physical and at the point of cheating.
God only knows why they don't, whether the likes of RTE are afraid that Kilkenny players and Cody wont give them interviews or whatever (they're far too buy the book to do that) but it is so blatant. Yet they always have an answer for it, it was a display of just pure hurling, physicality, on the edge, a mans game at it's best, not malicious, both were going for the ball etc. It's not that bull****, they're cheating, blatantly cheating but nobody say says it how it is.
Anybody else would be called out for it, but not Kilkenny.
It's so bloody infuriating.
Last edited by Stringer9; 10th-September-2012 at 23:23.
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Stringer is bigger even than his own immense shadow. Pound for pound, he is the best tackler in the world. If you put him into bag of cats he\'d come out without a scratch. He was hit very late for Murphy\'s try. And when he got up, as we knew he would, the crowd cried his name as if he had just fixed the economy.Billy Keane-After Munster\'s famous loss to the AB\'s.
The Bull-Truly irreplaceable, a mountain of a man. 100 caps!!
A good example of it is this shtick about these training games where, apparently, anything goes. That's held up as an example. Whereas, if you think about it for a second, what it actually means is: these guys train to play a game that is not refereed at all, and will go out to replicate that. They train to play a game outside the rules, because otherwise, they'd play games in training that were within the rules. Yet, so far from that being pointed out as what it is, the imposition of illegal and dirty hurling on the game by sheer bullying of referees who dare to stop this by refereeing according to the rules of the game, it's held up as something admirable. There is a double standard, no two ways about it.
Vorsprung durch Pfennig.
It's mind games, it's a load of ****, if they played the way they suggest they'd have a hell lot more injuries that they do have. If they do actually play this way in training then it is setting a completely wrong example and encouraging these guys into a mindset where they can get away with just about anything.
A lot of things about Kilkenny irk me. They have always been seen by the GAA as the golden team, the team that can do no wrong, and that message and belief have passed over into their games.
I'm not suggesting for one minute that these guys aren't fantastic players, and part of an outstanding team, but really enough's enough.
People view their approach as hard men, ah fair play, look at these lads compared to the soccer etc. It's not something they should be praised for and congratulated for, they are breaking the rules but being patted on the back for doing so. The rules are there for a reason.
Without going into this fully, but Cork have always been seen as troublesome, **** stirrers etc,
If Cork went out there and played as Killkenny did, there'd be hell to pay, it just wouldn't be allowed happen, we'd have 3/4 players up with the CCC every other week. This isn't a Cork v Kilkenny thing, it's just the way it is.
Yet Kilkenny seem to have this untouchable aura. You can't ref them to law they should be reffed. They don't play to the normal set of rules, they are never reffed properly so it's up to their opposition to match them, and if you can't beat them join them. That is the only way they can be beaten, and it's through that mad physicality.
Every other team must abide to these seperate rules. It's blatant double standards, it's like when you play Kilkenny an extra 10 yards of leeway is given and it's up to the other team to keep up.
Last edited by Stringer9; 10th-September-2012 at 23:44.
The Maul is Back!! LONG LIVE THE MAUL!!
Stringer is bigger even than his own immense shadow. Pound for pound, he is the best tackler in the world. If you put him into bag of cats he\'d come out without a scratch. He was hit very late for Murphy\'s try. And when he got up, as we knew he would, the crowd cried his name as if he had just fixed the economy.Billy Keane-After Munster\'s famous loss to the AB\'s.
The Bull-Truly irreplaceable, a mountain of a man. 100 caps!!
Anyone else notice that when play was stopped for both KK wing backs to be booked at the same time for (presumably) off the ball incidents,replays were never shown!! Some contrast to the Lar Corbett playercam from the semi
Classic Lievremont
Ya, the sunday game were very slow to show this kind of coverage. Its a great game when played within the rules but the crap with giving a lad the butt of the hurl to soften him up should be stopped. Great Hurlers shouldnt have to go to that level.
We have had our share of thugs in Galway for years.gera My Dad said one of them should have been a red. I hope the ref is the same for the replay.
When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began to suspect Hungry
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