Tourist told that Derry "does not exist"

[Mucky Boots]

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<DIV =cap>The tourist ended up catching a train to Derry</DIV></DIV></TD></TR></T></TABLE><!- E IIMA -><!- S SF ->Translink has said it has identified the member of staff who told a tourist "Derry did not exist" when she asked about a bus to the city from Belfast.


The SDLP's John Dallat said he was seeking a meeting with the company later this week to discuss the issue.


Translink's Billy Gilpin said the company apologised to the Canadian tourist for any inconvenience caused.


Earlier this year, following a judicial review, a judge ruled that the name of the city should remain Londonderry. <!- E SF ->


Mr Gilpin said the incident was currently being investigated by the company.


He said: "We are here to provide a service for the whole community.


"We don't have a particular stance on what we call, whether it be Londonderry or Derry.


"We interchange the two terms all the time in our publications and station announcements.


"It is very unfortunate, and I would have to apologise to the people who were involved in this incident."








Mr Dallat said the girl inquired about transport to the city and was told at the Europa Bus Centre in Belfast that "no buses run to that place".


'Unacceptable'


He said the woman caught a train and was eventually picked up at the Waterside Station.


'There have been several other cases of foreign travellers, mostly students who have had similar experiences and the time has come to sort out this petty bigoted practice once and for all," he said.


He said he had been "unhappy with Translink's response".


"I do accept that the problem is perhaps not as bad as it used to be when they used to have someone standing at Platform Two in Belfast screaming at all passengers to the North-West, 'This train goes to Londonderry', he said.


"That at least has stopped but there is a problem still in existence and it needs to be addressed."


Following a judicial review on the issue brought by Derry City Council in January, Mr Justice Weatherup ruled that although the council had changed its title to Derry, this did not mean the name specified back in the 17th century was changed.


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[Ronnie]

Isn't it called Stroke City these days? [img]smileys/wink.gif[/img]

[stevetelcom2000]

[img]smileys/shock.gif[/img]So where do The 'Apprentice Boys of Derry' come from. And where did The '@@@@SPAN =mw-line>Siege of Derry' take place? [img]smileys/lol.gif[/img] @@@@/SPAN>

[Ronnie]

[img]smileys/shock.gif[/img]So where do The 'Apprentice Boys of Derry' come from. And where did The '@@@@SPAN ="mw-line">Siege of Derry' take place? [img]smileys/lol.gif[/img] @@@@/SPAN>

There's a club in Liverpool (The Murray Club) which is an Apprentice Boys of Derry Club, so they don't all come from Derry. [img]smileys/wink.gif[/img]


One night about twenty years ago, me and a mate of mine were invited there for a drink by someone we knew. What a shower of absolute bores they were. The only thing they talked about was religion. After about half an hour we left. My mate made a few uncomplimentary remarks about the queen, whose photo was above the bar, and things turned a bit nasty. If you're ever in Liverpool, and someone asks you to go to SAM's for a pint, don't bother. It's really the Southern Area Memorial Club. The ale was awful too.

[who?]

Of course Derry exists. Go to London's East End, and there it is! [img]smileys/wink.gif[/img]

[Arthur Guinness]

Must confess that a long time ago when I worked for Lyons Tea in Greenford outside London I caused a certain amount of doublechecking by the supervisors. We were loading a container destined for "Londonderry" with tea and told them that there was no such place and God only knows where their container would end up. A number of other Irish working there backed my story,hence the minor panic. I now seethe error ofmy ways.Sorry!![img]smileys/redface.gif[/img]

[Mucky Boots]

To make matters worse, the city is officially named Londonderry, but it is officiated by Derry City Council...[img]smileys/c&#111;nfused.gif[/img]

To make matters worse, the city is officially named Londonderry, but it is officiated by Derry City Council...[img]smileys/c&#111;nfused.gif[/img]

The Train station is Londonderry, The airport is City of Derry, as is the rugby team! Just as well the sing song has been cancelled for Friday night, the teams would be worn out trying to satisfy that mob.


....Speaking of udder tings Todgeresque....any truth that the proposed stadium at the Maze has been nicknamed The Sands Siro?

[Point]

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[jmccoy]

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I've heard of and visited "Derry". I've never heard of this "Londonderry" thing though. [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img]

[munster cat]

As this place is not much of anything does it really matter what they call it???


You would be lucky to find a decent fish and chipper in the place let alone restaurant. The Ancient Wallsare in excellent condition but the rest of the buildings are either full of windowgrills or shutters that the place is best forgotten about.

[jmccoy]

As this place is not much of anything does it really matter what they call it???


You would be lucky to find a decent fish and chipper in the place let alone restaurant. The Ancient Wallsare in excellent condition but the rest of the buildings are either full of windowgrills or shutters that the place is best forgotten about.

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Don't forget the friendly looking Police Stations ! [img]smileys/lol.gif[/img]

[The Word Is Born]

Who cares what it is called as long as it remains as part of the UK?

[jmccoy]

Who cares what it is called as long as it remains as part of the UK?

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To be quiet honest I don't care. [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img]

[Old Dog]

Good to see that Londonderry has been placed fourth in Lonely Planet's list of best cities for 2013. I haven't been there for almost 20 years, but it was a pretty bleak spot back then; it's great to see that it's coming along so well - the locals are lovely people.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/pi...?frame=2375858

[Kavy]

Is Derry (the city) not in Co. Londonderry, or do I find myself behind the curve again O.D.?

[Mack the Knife]

Tonight I dream about my Maiden city
I'll go back to the days I spent there as a boy
I dream about the friends I left behind me
in my city, Londonderry on the Foyle


Well my mother she writes to my here twice weekly
and she tells me all the things are going on
and she tells me of the bombings and the shootings
in my city, Londonderry on the Foyle


But tonight I lay upon my bed I'm dreaming
I am dreaming of the friends I left behind me
And I dream about my sweetheart in the Fountain
In my city, Londonderry on the Foyle


But once more I am coming home aboard the steamship
On Lough Foyle once more I'm passing by Colmore
And I see those old walls still standing
They''re round my city Londonderry on the Foyle


I can see the old cathedral it's still standing
and not far away the old Memorial Hall
And I see the crimson banner, it's still flying
Over my city Londonderry on the Foyle.

It's even Londonderry in song !

[Mack the Knife]

There's a club in Liverpool (The Murray Club) which is an Apprentice Boys of Derry Club, so they don't all come from Derry. [img]smileys/wink.gif[/img]


One night about twenty years ago, me and a mate of mine were invited there for a drink by someone we knew. What a shower of absolute bores they were. The only thing they talked about was religion. After about half an hour we left. My mate made a few uncomplimentary remarks about the queen, whose photo was above the bar, and things turned a bit nasty. If you're ever in Liverpool, and someone asks you to go to SAM's for a pint, don't bother. It's really the Southern Area Memorial Club. The ale was awful too.

Liverpool is one ****ed up place loads of those **** homes especially around Everton and Netherdale. Have a look at The Derry in Mere Lane , around the corner from Anfield if anybody is going over to watch Championship football next season. The Liverpool Provincial Club is another salubrious spot up that way.

[Kavy]

Hmmm, still Stroketown (Derry / Londonderry) it seems.

www.derrycity.gov.uk/

[acskerries]

Tonight I dream about my Maiden city
I'll go back to the days I spent there as a boy
I dream about the friends I left behind me
in my city, Londonderry on the Foyle


Well my mother she writes to my here twice weekly
and she tells me all the things are going on
and she tells me of the bombings and the shootings
in my city, Londonderry on the Foyle


But tonight I lay upon my bed I'm dreaming
I am dreaming of the friends I left behind me
And I dream about my sweetheart in the Fountain
In my city, Londonderry on the Foyle


But once more I am coming home aboard the steamship
On Lough Foyle once more I'm passing by Colmore
And I see those old walls still standing
They''re round my city Londonderry on the Foyle


I can see the old cathedral it's still standing
and not far away the old Memorial Hall
And I see the crimson banner, it's still flying
Over my city Londonderry on the Foyle.

It's even Londonderry in song !

Depends on who's singing it I guess - growing up around 20 miles from Derry city I heard that song sung but with "lovely Derry" rather than "Londonderry"

[blackwarrior]

.... it's great to see that it's coming along so well - the locals are lovely people.

Not patronising in the least OD. "lovely people"!!

[busby]

It's a predominately Catholic/Nationalist city that was retained within the UK. It's a rather pathetic element of Unionism that they force the issue of the name on top of that, they should probably consider themselves lucky that Derry was included in 6 counties at all to begin with.

I actually reckon we'll see Derry in the republic over the next half century or so. As Catholics become the majority in the North, Unionism will enthusiastically seek to redraw the boundaries. Not to protect themselves from a United Ireland (which northern Catholics probably don't feel strongly enough about to push through) but from a Northern Ireland where Nationalists have the first Minister and a much stronger say. The entire point of Northern Ireland as an entity is for Protestants to be in the majority.

[JoeyFantastic]

It's a predominately Catholic/Nationalist city that was retained within the UK. It's a rather pathetic element of Unionism that they force the issue of the name on top of that, they should probably consider themselves lucky that Derry was included in 6 counties at all to begin with.

I actually reckon we'll see Derry in the republic over the next half century or so. As Catholics become the majority in the North, Unionism will enthusiastically seek to redraw the boundaries. Not to protect themselves from a United Ireland (which northern Catholics probably don't feel strongly enough about to push through) but from a Northern Ireland where Nationalists have the first Minister and a much stronger say. The entire point of Northern Ireland as an entity is for Protestants to be in the majority.

More and more catholics want NI to stay within the UK, it'd be interesting to see the Unionists trying to push them out.

[Mack the Knife]

No chance of Londonderry becoming part of the "Republic". Frankly it's one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on this forum. Partition works just fine, if anything we should be rejoining The Union !

[Hugh Jardon]

Boundary redrawing/extensions just don't work.

If something were to happen it's just as likely for Cavan to declare independance if Quinn & his supporters have their way

[SkullinPints]

Boundary redrawing/extensions just don't work.

If something were to happen it's just as likely for Cavan to declare independance if Quinn & his supporters have their way

Stop Hugh - you're just giving me false hope !!!

[busby]

More and more catholics want NI to stay within the UK, it'd be interesting to see the Unionists trying to push them out.

Quite aware of that, and i'd be happier if they did remain part of it. But even if a catholic majority wished to remain part of the UK, the history of unionism shows that it will likely flick directly into protectionist mode the moment their status is in anyway threatened.

A catholic majority in the North would have far more implications than whether or not they remain in the UK or not. Parades, Education, Local government issues, etc. All would have a much 'greener' twist.

While current conditions mean northern Nationalists are likely to want to remain part of the UK, were coming into a fairly turbulent half century or so which could have big impacts on the UK - Possible Scottish independence and largescale immigration from sub Asia due to climate change primary among them. There is a chance you could see a turn of events leading a nationalist majority in the North to view a United Ireland suddenly as a more attractive option - and a Unionist minority would be well aware of that.

[JoeyFantastic]

Quite aware of that, and i'd be happier if they did remain part of it. But even if a catholic majority wished to remain part of the UK, the history of unionism shows that it will likely flick directly into protectionist mode the moment their status is in anyway threatened.

A catholic majority in the North would have far more implications than whether or not they remain in the UK or not. Parades, Education, Local government issues, etc. All would have a much 'greener' twist.

While current conditions mean northern Nationalists are likely to want to remain part of the UK, were coming into a fairly turbulent half century or so which could have big impacts on the UK - Possible Scottish independence and largescale immigration from sub Asia due to climate change primary among them. There is a chance you could see a turn of events leading a nationalist majority in the North to view a United Ireland suddenly as a more attractive option - and a Unionist minority would be well aware of that.

I doubt it, no one's trading the NHS for whatever end up calling the HSE.

It was a civil rights issue which seems to have been largely resolved, the place will normalise in time.

[Cill na Martra]

No chance of Londonderry becoming part of the "Republic". Frankly it's one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on this forum. Partition works just fine, if anything we should be rejoining The Union !

So says Ibrox's voice of reason.

Why, pray tell, did you put the Republic in inverted commas?

It can't be that like your bigoted bretheran up north, you don't believe it exists, because as we all know you live off the fat of the land (i.e. this State's public sector).

[Mack the Knife]

So says Ibrox's voice of reason.

Why, pray tell, did you put the Republic in inverted commas?

It can't be that like your bigoted bretheran up north, you don't believe it exists, because as we all know you live off the fat of the land (i.e. this State's public sector).

And tasty it is too ! I put Republic in brackets because this country is anything but , no matter what you Bogeor speaking inbreds think out your way . Away now and play with you'd Princd August figures like a good troll .