Munster v Zebre 26th Oct Team named post 59

[Adam1986]

Well ladies and gents tis back to the old Rabo for the next few weeks. Any opinions on who should start? (Besides JJ, if he ain't goin start now when?)

Personally favor:

1. Killer
2. Sherry
3. Archer/Ryan
4. Holland
5. O'Connell (needs the gametime ahead of the SA match)
6. O'Mahony (gives Butler a chance at 8 and leaves O'Mahony in his proper position)
7. Dougall
8. Ronan
9. Williams
10. Hanrahan
11. O'Dea
12. Downey
13. Lualala (Them two need more gametime to see if they'll be of any use, cause they were useless yesterday)
14. Barnes (Can't think of anyone else who'd be available, plus Dougie needs the rest)
15. Jones ( Game we should win so get him upto speed)

[B.A.]

Well ladies and gents tis back to the old Rabo for the next few weeks. Any opinions on who should start? (Besides JJ, if he ain't goin start now when?)

Personally favor:

1. Killer
2. Sherry
3. Archer/Ryan
4. Holland
5. O'Connell (needs the gametime ahead of the SA match)
6. O'Mahony (gives Butler a chance at 8 and leaves O'Mahony in his proper position)
7. Dougall
8. Ronan
9. Williams
10. Hanrahan
11. O'Dea
12. Downey
13. Lualala (Them two need more gametime to see if they'll be of any use, cause they were useless yesterday)
14. Barnes (Can't think of anyone else who'd be available, plus Dougie needs the rest)
15. Jones ( Game we should win so get him upto speed)

For a minute there I thought you said ronan at 8

[Adam1986]

Thanks for pointing that out B.A. Monday morning and asleep at the wheel. Meant to say:

1. Killer
2. Sherry
3. Archer/Ryan
4. Holland
5. O'Connell (needs the gametime ahead of the SA match)
6. O'Mahony (gives Butler a chance at 8 and leaves O'Mahony in his proper position)
7. Dougall
8. Butler
9. Williams
10. Hanrahan
11. O'Dea
12. Downey
13. Lualala (Them two need more gametime to see if they'll be of any use, cause they were useless yesterday)
14. Barnes (Can't think of anyone else who'd be available, plus Dougie needs the rest)
15. Jones ( Game we should win so get him upto speed)

[B.A.]

For a minute there I thought you said ronan at 8

You're forgiven

Hard to argue with that team. I suspect johne may make appearance on the wing.

[taz]

Right,there is a 5 day turnaround,so little if any starters from Sunday will or should play Friday.

What I would like to see based on the game time turnaround.I'm in two minds whether or not POC should start this?

Jones,Murphy,Barnes,Dineen,O Dea,JJ,Williams,Horan,Varley,Archer,Holland,Foley, DOC2,TOD,Butler.

Bench of Henry,Cotter,Ryan,Nagle,Barry O Mahony,Stringer,Deasy,Hircock/O Mahony.

[McCloud]

Squad for the AI is due to be announced on Wednesday i think? When do they go into camp?

[taz]

Squad for the AI is due to be announced on Wednesday i think? When do they go into camp?

First match is on the 10th of November against SA,so you would imagine soon enough.

[Pony]

Killer badly needs a rest. Nagle needs to play top level rugby ASAP IMO. 5 day break and Zebre means it will be a new team almost. With Earls out the centres will be protected.

Horan
Varley
Ryan
Nagle
POC/Holland
Beta
Butler
Ronan
Stringer
Deasy
O'dea
JJ
Barnes
Johne
Jones

[cornerboy]

Thought POC didnt look great going off yesterday....was walking a bit like I do.

[McCloud]

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All Clear From The Weekend
22 October 2012, 1:13 pm
By The Editor


Good news from the Munster camp this morning is that everyone came through Sunday's encounter with Edinburgh with a clean bill of health.


Paul O'Connell and Donncha O'Callaghan both retired at a relatively early stage but there was nothing untoward in either case, O'Callaghan was just over a hamstring injury that kept him out of the Racing game while O'Connell had done enough in just his second game back.


Felix Jones also came through unscathed after making his first appearance at this level since May and though Casey Laulala received attention several times in the early part of the game for a groin problem but played the full 80 and he is reported to be fit and well.


Ronan O'Gara spent the game in front of a TV monitor in the Munster dug-out, miced-up to give his input and he is not expected to be involved against Zebre on Friday but along with Keith Earls could see a return to action in early November.


Wian du Preez is looking at a similar timeframe while it's likely to be towards the end of November before Niall Ronan gets back.


Other than those, Rob Penney will have a full deck to deal from when he sits down to select his side for the visit of Zebre to Thomond Park Stadium next Friday.

[Cowboy]

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All Clear From The Weekend
22 October 2012, 1:13 pm
By The Editor


Good news from the Munster camp this morning is that everyone came through Sunday's encounter with Edinburgh with a clean bill of health.


Paul O'Connell and Donncha O'Callaghan both retired at a relatively early stage but there was nothing untoward in either case, O'Callaghan was just over a hamstring injury that kept him out of the Racing game while O'Connell had done enough in just his second game back.


Felix Jones also came through unscathed after making his first appearance at this level since May and though Casey Laulala received attention several times in the early part of the game for a groin problem but played the full 80 and he is reported to be fit and well.


Ronan O'Gara spent the game in front of a TV monitor in the Munster dug-out, miced-up to give his input and he is not expected to be involved against Zebre on Friday but along with Keith Earls could see a return to action in early November.


Wian du Preez is looking at a similar timeframe while it's likely to be towards the end of November before Niall Ronan gets back.


Other than those, Rob Penney will have a full deck to deal from when he sits down to select his side for the visit of Zebre to Thomond Park Stadium next Friday.

Anyone know what happened him?

[Ruckuss]

May have been asked by someone else but why the hell is this match not on in musgrave???? jazz weekend you could surely entice a few people out of the pubs for 2 hours, thomond won't be half full

[Adam1986]

Good point there Ruckuss. Was only thinking it today myself. For the new Italian side what do we reckon between 8-12 thousand at most. The place will sound like a haunted bowl. Better to get a good crowd to Musgrave and take advantage of the Jazz weekend particularly as the Friday night is quite only picks up on Saturday.

[McCloud]

Possibly the Garda didn't want a match on in MP due to the Jazz weekend?

[Adam1986]

Could well be that McCloud. One of the few possible sound reasons to have it up in TP. Financial gain isn't one of em anyway cause there going to make feck all for this game.

[John Cooper Clarke]

May have been asked by someone else but why the hell is this match not on in musgrave???? jazz weekend you could surely entice a few people out of the pubs for 2 hours, thomond won't be half full

MP got awarded some superior fixtures this season.

[99_oK?]

Killer badly needs a rest. Nagle needs to play top level rugby ASAP IMO. 5 day break and Zebre means it will be a new team almost. With Earls out the centres will be protected.

Horan
Varley
Ryan - Archer maybe?
DOC
Holland
Beta
Butler
PoM - capt.
Stringer
Deasy
O'Dea
Johne
Barnes
Jones
Denis Hurley

Subs to include Ryan (thp), Nagle, JJ, Dougie (if not starting)

Agree 5 days is really too short a turnaround. So no PoC, centres, Murray, Keatley, Zebo. DoC has had a week off recently and we need some experience in the pack. Same for JJ - if Deasy is FH, need a bit of old heads round him. Both JJ and Nagle top come on early 2nd half if game going well. Need to balance total newcomers with a bit of experience.

[Bitter As A Lemon]

Some players who should definatly see gametime this week are:
Twill be something of this nature:
Horan, Varley, Archer, Nagle, Ryan, Dave O'Call, O'Donnell, Butler, Williams, JJ, O'Dea, Barnes, Lualala, Hurley, Jones.
Subs:
Killer, Henry, Cotter, POC, O'Mahony, Stringer, Deasy & Hircock/Downey

[Colliniho]

I'd like to see LOD, JJ, DOC2, Nagle, Butler and J Ryan get a shot with 9 other "first teamers" like Varley, D Ryan, Laulala, Zebo and co.

[Piggybui]

May have been asked by someone else but why the hell is this match not on in musgrave???? jazz weekend you could surely entice a few people out of the pubs for 2 hours, thomond won't be half full

Did you not know that it always rains in Cork for the Jazz. Its what keeps people drinking for the weekend. If all the Dubs that turn up had a dry day they'd probably go for a walk about and develop a serious inferiority complex.
The last place anyone wants to be on a rainy evening is Musgrave park. I was at the Trevisio game there last year and even the Trevisio no 12 hid behind the goal post padding to get out of the rain.

[Lemmy]

MP got awarded some superior fixtures this season.

Ah yes, this chestnut.

Musgrave has the Scarlets during the Autumn Internationals & Edinburgh and Connacht in and around the Six Nations.

Out of the four matches, the Cardiff one before the resumption of the HC in January is probably the only one where a full strength team will appear.

Superior fixtures how are you?

[Captain Average]

Is Luke O'Dea fit? Didn't he cry off for the A game at the weekend?

[Colliniho]

Is Luke O'Dea fit? Didn't he cry off for the A game at the weekend?

According to Michael Corcoran on the twitter machine Dougie was a doubt up to the day of the game. Taking that into account I reckon Luke was pulled from the A side as cover

[munstershane]

Is Luke O'Dea fit? Didn't he cry off for the A game at the weekend?

No, I thought he was drafted into the senior squad as cover for Howlett who had a slight niggle. However I may have heard wrong.

[Cowboy]

According to Michael Corcoran on the twitter machine Dougie was a doubt up to the day of the game. Taking that into account I reckon Luke was pulled from the A side as cover

He warmed up in Thomond Park on Sunday with the senior side, Dougie must have been iffy

[John Cooper Clarke]

Ah yes, this chestnut.

Musgrave has the Scarlets during the Autumn Internationals & Edinburgh and Connacht in and around the Six Nations.

Out of the four matches, the Cardiff one before the resumption of the HC in January is probably the only one where a full strength team will appear.

Superior fixtures how are you?

All of those plus the Dragons are arguably more attractive than Zebre or maybe Treviso.

It's a numbers game financially and MR cannot afford any loss of potential revenue, so any game that'll have a demand for 10k tickets should be held in TP (assuming costs are manageable).


p.s. How long will it take this thread to descend into "mass market potential", "disenfranchised", and "player supermarket interaction"?

[Lemmy]

All of those plus the Dragons are arguably more attractive than Zebre or maybe Treviso.

It's a numbers game financially and MR cannot afford any loss of potential revenue, so any game that'll have a demand for 10k tickets should be held in TP (assuming costs are manageable).


p.s. How long will it take this thread to descend into "mass market potential", "disenfranchised", and "player supermarket interaction"?

Ah come off it will you.

You made a statement that Musgrave was 'awarded' superior fixtures.

I am just taking issue with that when everything is taken into account.

[Bitter As A Lemon]

Ah yes, this chestnut.

Musgrave has the Scarlets during the Autumn Internationals & Edinburgh and Connacht in and around the Six Nations.

Out of the four matches, the Cardiff one before the resumption of the HC in January is probably the only one where a full strength team will appear.

Superior fixtures how are you?

Get more than 3000 at a Pre-Season friendly, and then you can argue.
If Munster Rugby can get more than 7500 at any game in TP, then why look to MP?
Pre-season friendlies aren't well supported in Cork.
The B&I Cup final only attracked roughly 2500 last year on a Friday evening, that would have been at least doubled if it was Limerick, or even if it was held in Waterford's RSC.

[Lemmy]

What are you on about? What the hell have pre-season or B&I Cup games got to do with the point?

My point is, given the timing of the fixtures the prospect of seeing the first team in action, reduces to one match.

As a result the 'superior fixtures' argument is flawed when the Munster team you are watching is a reserve team.

Rightly or wrongly the O' Connell, O' Gara factor would add to the gate, particularly amongst the casual supporter.

[Bitter As A Lemon]

But you're only going to see them for roughly 8 Rabo games a year, regardless of whether the match is on in Musgrave park or the moon.