I have a 10 year old willow in my garden and it has to go (its huge) Any idea of the cost of removing this tree please ? Could try it myself but getting rid would be a problem.
I have a 10 year old willow in my garden and it has to go (its huge) Any idea of the cost of removing this tree please ? Could try it myself but getting rid would be a problem.
Do you not have an fire place? Chop it up and enjoy winter evenings in front of an open fire.
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Just wait for the bears to come - they'll soon take care of it
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Cut it down, chop it up, season it for a year, firewood. Bish bash bosh.
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Willow has a very high moisture content. Not good for for open fires.Originally Posted by McCloud
guy who came to my door said 100 quid to chop down a sycamore get rid of the leaves and small stuff and make firewood of the rest. (he knocked asking would i like it topped and shaped)
on a related note, i used to be of the impression that chopping a tree down can cause problems if the roots start to expand when they rot if they are near foundations. any truth in this?
Whatever you do, don't kill yourself.
Most pine trees etc are easy enough, but some trees are killers for the average 'ah sure.., how hard can it be, B&Q electric chainsaw, bish bosh brigade' .
I nearly went into tree surgery after my stint as an outdoor sports instructor (a natural progression for many climbers)
but I'm glad I didn't, two of my friends went into the industry and have had serious accidents, one of whom was paralyzed for a few days when a branch fell on him the other got crushed between the tree and a branch and got caught in ropes until they nearly had to amputate his leg.
Roots swell up close to structures when they are alive (especially under foundations or next to leaking water pipes) because of the moisture that collects there, thats why they damage property. Thats as far as my knowledge goes. But I'd have thought that rotting tree roots would cause subsidence or maybe the ground would swell up due to increased moisture, but I dont know.
Last edited by Huwie; 2nd-October-2012 at 10:22.
The axe that cuts the tree can easily forget, but the tree thats been cut will not forget.
Don't forget to get a tree felling permit, if required - otherwise you may be jailed for 20 years!
https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/fores...ortreefelling/
Severe my holePenalties for illegal felling can be severe, ranging from fines of up to a maximum of €63.49
Maximum of €63.49!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FFS, cut down a tree that is hundreds/thousands of years old and its a maximum fine of 63quid 49c?!!!!!! Ridiculous!!
I wonder if anyone has been jailed for 2 years for illegal tree felling..
Last edited by Huwie; 2nd-October-2012 at 10:50.
The axe that cuts the tree can easily forget, but the tree thats been cut will not forget.
Where are you getting 20?
Legal Requirements for Tree Felling
The Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine advise that, under Section 37 of the Forestry Act, 1946, it is illegal to uproot any tree over ten years old or to cut down any tree of any age (including trees which form part of a hedgerow), unless a Felling Notice has been lodged at the Garda Station nearest to the trees at least 21 days before felling commences.
A Felling Notice may be obtained from any Garda Station or directly from the Felling Section of the Forest Service of the Department. A copy can also be obtained on the Department's website.
The requirement for a felling licence for the uprooting or cutting down of trees does not apply where:
a) The tree in question is a hazel, apple, plum, damson, pear, or cherry tree grown for the value of its fruit or any ozier;
b) The tree in question is less than 100 feet from a dwelling other than a wall or temporary structure;
c) The tree in question is standing in a County or other Borough or an urban district (that is, within the boundaries of a town council, or city council area).
Other exceptions apply in the case of local authority road construction, road safety and electricity supply operations.
Penalties for illegal felling can be severe, ranging from fines of up to a maximum of €63.49 per tree to imprisonment for up to 2 years. In addition to any fine, which may be imposed by the Court, the Minister may, by Order, require the person convicted to replant.
For further information, please contact Felling Section, Forest Service, Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine, Johnstown Castle, Wexford. Tel: (053) 9160170 / 9160174 / 9160175 / 9160181.
OD, you may know the legislation (or maybe not - 20 years...?), but if you knew your trees you'd be aware that legislation doesn't apply in this case; viz. tree not over 10 years old, tree is a willow (you know about osiers...?), and you didn't ask if it was within 30m of a dwelling or in an urban area, etc....
10 year old willow should be easy to take care of with any little chainsaw. It will make decent firewood, but will need at least 12 months seasoning. You could also donate it here: http://www.cricketireland.ie/ Good willow can be hard to get...
Oh, I wouldn't worry about applying that legislation. When the council chopped down all the lovely plane tress that were planted on Sackville Street (later renamed like the postboxes were painted green...), they conveniently ignored it, even though thousands objected......
I added up the Forestry Service phone numbers, multiplied them by the square root of my IQ, added the number of Thomond78's posts and divided my total by the amount of Dáil expenses claimed by Mick Wallace and Gerry Adams in 2011.
Then I rounded my result up to the nearest kilometer. Can you suggest an easier method?
Or maybe - just maybe - they were cogniscant of part (c) of the regulation which states that the requirement for a felling licence doesn't apply where "the tree(s) in question is/are standing in a County or other Borough or an urban district (that is, within the boundaries of a town council, or city council area)." Now call me a moster raving loonie if you will, but I'm pretty certain that Sackville Street is located in a somewhat urban district?
The other points that you raise are, I believe, covered by my use of the words "if required" in my original post.
My reference to 20 years in jail was intended to be ironic, alas, it failed.
nail a couple of copper screws into it, does the trick as well
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Sneak up on it from behind and give it an onmursifull whack with a hammer.
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Simply excellent forum for anything to do with trees
http://www.treeworld.info/
Excellent smiley list too (my secret is gone)
Maintained by professionals in Oz. I've learned so much from there.
"co dominant leaders with bark inclusion"
"exactly where to cut at the branch bark ridge to prevent rot back on trees that aren't very good isolators"
Post a pic with planned pruning lines inserted and someone will happily critique.
Why it's a sin to completely remove the crown of a tree so that it will "happily bush up" (it's a tree not a bush and you've halved its lifespan or worse. I see trees cut like this in Ireland all the time. Sad.
Species identification.
And for the pros - climbing and gear tips.
Addictive site. My trees at home are so much happier after having "raised the crown". The tips on cutting without damaging the collar or branch bark ridge have led me to very pleasant results after branch removal over the years. I can even criticize some of the hack jobs I've seen by Coilte now.
Read the rules if posting. Pictures are a prerequite in most cases.
Last edited by No. 16; 3rd-October-2012 at 04:05.
I knew what I meant
sort of
maybe
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Trees vary all over Oz; Tasmania isn't Q'ld or NT. Ireland is totally different again, so yeah.......
Different trees require different handling. In Ireland Coillte is rightly well regarded but they plant and maintain mainly softwood/needle forests. They also train guys in safe saw operation and other aspects. There is also a small network of highly specialised guys dealing with different aspects of tree and wood handling; many of these are world renowned in their fields and I have had the privilege of meeting a few of 'em. And they spend most of their time outdoors, good oak or ask doesn't grow on d'interweb.
Post #6 links one of the excellent providers of (Coillte approved) services and training in this country; there are plenty of others.
Not exactly 99. They take and give advice with people all over the world. There are Arborists from the UK and Canada that post there regularly. Albeit, the only time I used their facility to tip someone using their pay pal facility - it was one of the Oz "mods" who gave me some excellent advice about saving a tree. It worked. They are professionals and I don't see anything wrong with their system of voluntary contributions for what is often very detailed, considerate and expert advice. I would more than welcome any online advice from someone Ireland based. I just haven't found a forum with that kind of GLOBALLY RELEVANT expertise floating around anywhere.
I'm sure if I required someone to come to my house in climbing gear - I wouldn't be seeking the services of a Wallaby. I'm sure there are some damn fine tree surgeons in Ireland. Treeworld is an online "forum" based i nOz with regular foreign guests.
As for Coilte - I'm sure there are skilled people, but there is also a huge difference between expert tree felling and expert tree surgery. I have seen some awful hack jobs in several Coilte maintained forests *(this is anecdotal and of course not evidenced by any research)
As for the people hired by the ESB - BUTCHERS! Their job is to kill or try to kill trees. We had beautiful white birch with whisps of delicate branches starting to come near to main power lines. There was no imminent need and the "problem" could have been solved by a couple carefull cuts. What did they do? Climbed with spikes damaging bark and lopping off the dominant leader a good 5 feet from the top (3 feet lower and several feet away from under the lines. One died, one is dying, one may live a few more years.
I think you got the wrong end of the switch stick with my recommendation about treeworld
I knew a few guys who do/did work for ESB networks; depending on line voltage they have a minimum gap to achieve and the one you quoted seems too small even for low voltage lines (don't forget too that trees/branches can grow back, lines can sag or sway, etc.....). They are working to orders; I wouldn't compare their job to those who are pruning.
Coillte (+ Dúchas and many privates companies) do a lot of forest management too, often for environmental or aesthetic reasons (take a look around Donadea or Killarney), but of course most of Coillte's work is in producing and harvesting commercial timber.
My personal experience of some Ozzie chainsaw hicks would make me very distrustful of anyone from that side of the planet with a power saw; maybe you met the exception.
Indeed. However, Low volt power lines often go through the centre of canopies of pruned trees on the road. The ones they killed on our site were indeed near to a higher voltage, but were whip sticks with fuzz at best several feet away. This was over five years ago. The neighbour's have substantial branches touching the lines at several points with large mature deciduousness. The ESB slashers never did those five years ago nor have they fixed it since so it could not be that big of a deal and the hackers that were let on to our property were obviously looking for an easy job to help fill the day.
As for the treeworld site - they are largely tree-huggin, highly educated people with chainsaws. Crimes against trees generally make them very angry. I was simply astonished at the wealth of knowledge and expertise on that site. They are at least as passionate about trees as we are here about rugby. I got a diagram returned to me on top of a photo about how to prune my cherry tree. They love to argue about the finer details of the best place to cut. I was impressed, that's all...
I do understand that the site will be of little help to our friend with the willow problem in Ireland....especially considering that it is such a strange and exotic type of tree probably never even heard of in Australia...
Last edited by No. 16; 4th-October-2012 at 23:55.
Yep, maybe that explains why Oz hasn't been great with the bat for a while now. Maybe OD should be consulted; after all gum isn't the same as a good willow.......... I was impressed, that's all... - fair enough...!
I do understand that the site will be of little help to our friend with the willow problem in Ireland....especially considering that it is such a strange and exotic type of tree probably never even heard of in Australia...
If you want to find someone passionate about tress, you should look up Matt Fogarty (in Shannon Rovers territory...); he's the best I've ever heard on oaks and the like. Also the lovable loonies in Kealkill are gr8 2. picked up a few exotics from them when planting a few trees and shrubs about 15 years back. Some doing great now. must make a trip down there again soon.
These good folks? http://www.futureforests.net/ If so, there's no need to travel down - most of their business is done over that interweb thingy these days.
That said, it's a great spot to visit though. Plus there's nice new tea shop in nearby Kealkill - beside the castle.
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