Reilly and primary health care centres

[Old Dog]

Doc Reilly will be on the Pat Kenny Show after the 11 o'clock news today to discuss (and hopefully diagnose some medication for) Cloudy's current obsession.


As for the comments of Michael Martin's third testicle (aka Hopper McGrath) - well, if and when Fianna Fail's ex-TD for Dublin North constituency Darragh O'Brien (who is currently the FF Leader in the Seanad) comes out to criticise Doc Reilly for giving his constituents two primary health centres, then will I believe that FF genuinely gives a flying fukc about this alleged stroke.

Thus far, neither O'Brien nor his constituency colleague the so-called "socialist" Clare Daly, have uttered a peep about this media-generated "stroke". I wonder why.

[scotscor]

Doc Reilly will be on the Pat Kenny Show after the 11 o'clock news today to discuss (and hopefully diagnose some medication for) Cloudy's current obsession.


As for the comments of Michael Martin's third testicle (aka Hopper McGrath) - well, if and when Fianna Fail's ex-TD for Dublin North constituency Darragh O'Brien (who is currently the FF Leader in the Seanad) comes out to criticise Doc Reilly for giving his constituents two primary health centres, then will I believe that FF genuinely gives a flying fukc about this alleged stroke.

Thus far, neither O'Brien nor his constituency colleague the so-called "socialist" Clare Daly, have uttered a peep about this media-generated "stroke". I wonder why.

I'd say they care about it to an extent, but unfortunately the political reality of it is, that in Ireland stroke politics has always been rewarded. Which is why local td's will not give out about it. But you know that, as you have described yourself, as not a complete fool.

[scotscor]

Well, I could spot that Old Dog is one, but I know that the poster behind the alias is not.

[Old Dog]

The site for the primary healthcare centre in Balbriggan, in the Dublin North constituency of Dr James Reilly, was chosen by former minister for health Mary Harney.
This was revealed in the Dáil today by Minister for Education Ruairí Quinn, who was standing in at Opposition leaders’ questions for Taoiseach Enda Kenny.
He was replying to Fianna Fáil health spokesman Billy Kelleher, who referred to a report that a supporter of the Minister for Health owned the site. Mr Kelleher challenged Mr Quinn to say if he was comfortable with the fact that his Labour colleague, former Minister of State Róisín Shortall, had resigned because she had failed to get support in trying to get to the bottom of the issue.
“Minister Reilly has conferred financial and commercial gain on individuals that he has political ties with," he added.
Mr Quinn said: “Deputy Kelleher has attempted to use the protection of this House to suggest that there was some financial impropriety in conferring financial advantage on a political supporter. “Can I tell you, Deputy Kelleher, that the site in question was selected by Deputy Mary Harney when she was minister for health.’’
Dr Reilly is to answer a special notice question on the matter later today.

[McCloud]

The site for the primary healthcare centre in Balbriggan, in the Dublin North constituency of Dr James Reilly, was chosen by former minister for health Mary Harney.
This was revealed in the Dáil today by Minister for Education Ruairí Quinn, who was standing in at Opposition leaders’ questions for Taoiseach Enda Kenny.
He was replying to Fianna Fáil health spokesman Billy Kelleher, who referred to a report that a supporter of the Minister for Health owned the site. Mr Kelleher challenged Mr Quinn to say if he was comfortable with the fact that his Labour colleague, former Minister of State Róisín Shortall, had resigned because she had failed to get support in trying to get to the bottom of the issue.
“Minister Reilly has conferred financial and commercial gain on individuals that he has political ties with," he added.
Mr Quinn said: “Deputy Kelleher has attempted to use the protection of this House to suggest that there was some financial impropriety in conferring financial advantage on a political supporter. “Can I tell you, Deputy Kelleher, that the site in question was selected by Deputy Mary Harney when she was minister for health.’’
Dr Reilly is to answer a special notice question on the matter later today.

Indeed the site was selected by Harney no one is arguing about that. What the minister needs to answer is his claims in the house that

"Speaking in the Dáil last night, Dr Reilly said Swords and Balbriggan were identified as high priority areas by the HSE five years ago.

But both “lost out” after Ms Shortall, the then-Minister of State, increased the weighting attached to deprivation in selecting priority locations in which centres would be built.


“Multiplying the deprivation index by three, they lost out. They were swept from high priority to low priority. Under the original priority system both would have been in the top 35. However, under the new system with an altered weighting system they ended down the list.”"

When as shown by the Irish Times

"This is not borne out, however, by documents obtained by The Irish Times under Freedom of Information legislation last week. They show that Balbriggan ranked 44th and Swords 127th in a draft list compiled last June – before Ms Shortall ordered officials to increase the weighting attached to deprivation.


This exercise did little to alter the rankings of the two towns in the list, with Balbriggan remaining at 44th and Swords slipping just three places to 130th, the documents show."

[Old Dog]

Indeed the site was selected by Harney no one is arguing about that. What the minister needs to answer is his claims in the house that

"Speaking in the Dáil last night, Dr Reilly said Swords and Balbriggan were identified as high priority areas by the HSE five years ago.

But both “lost out” after Ms Shortall, the then-Minister of State, increased the weighting attached to deprivation in selecting priority locations in which centres would be built.


“Multiplying the deprivation index by three, they lost out. They were swept from high priority to low priority. Under the original priority system both would have been in the top 35. However, under the new system with an altered weighting system they ended down the list.”"

When as shown by the Irish Times

"This is not borne out, however, by documents obtained by The Irish Times under Freedom of Information legislation last week. They show that Balbriggan ranked 44th and Swords 127th in a draft list compiled last June – before Ms Shortall ordered officials to increase the weighting attached to deprivation.


This exercise did little to alter the rankings of the two towns in the list, with Balbriggan remaining at 44th and Swords slipping just three places to 130th, the documents show."

Sincere thanks for highlighting Shortall's corrupt interference with the HSE's weightings, Cloudy; I couldn't have done it better myself!

I realise that doing so doesn't suit your deluded agenda, but I do admire you for your honesty.

[McCloud]

Maybe you should reread the Irish Times report OD and compare Reilly's statement to the information discovered by the IT under an FoI request.

[joeriddick]

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...n-3249225.html

HEALTH Minister Dr James Reilly has dramatically changed his story on a controversial site selected for a primary care site in his constituency.

The minister is facing questions in the wake of Irish Independent revelations this morning that a supporter of the Health Minister owns the site in the minister’s constituency where a controversial health centre will be built.
This morning, Dr Reilly and Education Minister Ruairi Quinn said the site was decided upon by the HSE when former health minister Mary Harney was in office.
But he has now admitted this information was wrong and another site was selected at that point, which subsequently fell through.
The original site was dropped in November 2010.
Dr Reilly became Health Minister in March 2011.

He's not making things any easier for himself, that's for sure.

[rathbaner]

Is he a senile old duffer out of his depth? Or is he a calculating crook using public office to line the pockets of his cronies and destroying anyone who stands in his way?
I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle. Which would mean he's an incontinent crook with his hands in the pockets of others while he pisses all over them.

[McCloud]

Sounds reasonable to me rathbaner. Basically politics as usual.....

[DONC]

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...n-3249225.html



He's not making things any easier for himself, that's for sure.

Surprised that OD has not called Reilly into question now that it is shown clearly he is economic with the truth. He seems to get the hots when decrying Shortall for much less.
Pretty clear at this stage that Reilly is not fit to hold office, indeed he is not fit to sit in the Dail.

[bugler]

Which would mean he's an incontinent crook with his hands in the pockets of others while he pisses all over them.

I salute your sentence. I am not sure if "incompetent" was intended to be in there in place of "incontinent", but it works either way!

[bugler]

Surprised that OD has not called Reilly into question now that it is shown clearly he is economic with the truth. He seems to get the hots when decrying Shortall for much less.
Pretty clear at this stage that Reilly is not fit to hold office, indeed he is not fit to sit in the Dail.

This is Enda's chief Rottweiler though, without him he may never have survived the Bruton coup - he'll be allowed clench his considerable buttocks harder than most.

[John123]

Absolutely, like every other "scandal" in Irish politics it'll have blown over within 4 weeks...

[Grandpasimpson]

Absolutely, like every other "scandal" in Irish politics it'll have blown over within 4 weeks...

I dont know, there seems to be a different feel about this one especially with it coming hot on the heels of his nursing home debt.

[Stanley]

I dont know, there seems to be a different feel about this one especially with it coming hot on the heels of his nursing home debt.

Wish someone would ask Mehole if he has read all the papers, last time round on the nursing homes he was quicker than ROG dodging a tackle, Mehole would give Pontious Pilate a run for his money.

Mehole should have the answer about Harney, if he only asks, maybe she will fup him off.

Reilly has some financial bothers at the moment which as a businessman he could sort out pretty quickly, pretty sure everyone has placed him in a difficult position and he cannot react as normal because of his ministerial post, people are using the Press to keep pressure on him.

[99_oK?]

The site for the primary healthcare centre in Balbriggan, in the Dublin North constituency of Dr James Reilly, was chosen by former minister for health Mary Harney. - it now seems not.....
......

All this disinformation is one thing, what about disclosure of interest? The owner (former owner...?) also denied having any business or political links with the Minister, now also shown to be at odds with the truth.

From your previous experience you should know all that.....

Up to a few days ago I still had high hopes for Dr. O'Reilly; from what we now know the best the Minister can hope to say is that he has been a bit naieve, the and if you believe most of what is being said it would put him in the realm of Burke et. al. Couple that with his unfortunate business investments (also at odds somewhat with is portfolio), and he can't buy a break if you still want to believe in him.

In any case he has greatly damaged his own credibility and by that of his position. Look at his performance yesterday in the cold light of day - even the constant questioning is preventing him from even attempting to do his job. He should have stepped away, sorted whatever needs sorting in his private and business life and then returned to whatever portfolio would be available. It is now looking a bit late for that.

[Major TNT]

The site for the primary healthcare centre in Balbriggan, in the Dublin North constituency of Dr James Reilly, was chosen by former minister for health Mary Harney.

Bit quick to swallow the bullsh*t weren't you.
Maybe you shouldn't believe all the crap rte feeds you.

[FORWARD....]

Bit quick to swallow the bullsh*t weren't you.
Maybe you shouldn't believe all the crap rte feeds you.

Now now, OD does not wish to be confused with the great unwashed. Please allow him the time and space to tell the real story here. We're waiting

[Major TNT]

Now now, OD does not wish to be confused with the great unwashed. Please allow him the time and space to tell the real story here. We're waiting

Does it really matter what old dog says at this stage? Pretty discredited now.
Its bound to be more of the same bullsh*t

[DONC]

Does it really matter what old dog says at this stage? Pretty discredited now.
Its bound to be more of the same bullsh*t

Now now TNT that happened quite some time ago. OD is like that cranky aunt, uncle, granny or grandad worth putting up with all the contrived BS for the odd chuckle you may get. One thing you dont do is take him (or her) seriously as I am fairly certain he (or she) does not believe a word of what they type.

[McCloud]

rte.ie




Labour Party Chairman Colm Keaveney appeals for party unity
Updated: 08:38, Friday, 5 October 2012



Labour Party Chairman Colm Keaveney has appealed for party unity in the wake of the resignation of junior minister Roisin Shortall.




In an internal email seen by RTÉ, Mr Keaveney said there is "another context" to recent events which the party leader has not yet been able to articulate publicly.
Mr Keaveney emailed Labour councillors and local representatives calling for party unity and acknowledged the internal concerns raised since Ms Shortall's resignation.
Following a meeting with Tánaiste and party leader Eamon Gilmore, Mr Keaveney said they had agreed to focus more on fixing the problems than on fixing the blame and to seek a way forward.
He said they have agreed to look at structural and other changes to improve communications.
Mr Keaveney appealed for party unity over the next few months, which he said will be the toughest of Labour's time in Government.

[bugler]

A Labour schism at some point in the future is looking more and more likely. It may happen after government, who knows.

[glorob]

A Labour schism at some point in the future is looking more and more likely. It may happen after government, who knows.

There will be few enough Labour Party TDs after the next election, maybe not enough of them to have an internal fued.

[Valencia]

I'm not a labour supporter yet seems somewhat obvious and rather sad, that it will be Labour TD's who will carry the can in the next election in probably some similar manner to the Greens whereas FG will waddle along in the manner that FF have continued.

[99_oK?]

There will be few enough Labour Party TDs after the next election, maybe not enough of them to have an internal fued.

Thing is they are losing TDs so rapidly that they may not make the next scheduled election. This is a government in meltdown and they are now losing the plot on many fronts. For instance this morning Quinn berated the British Education minister when it was pointed out to him by Kenny (Pat...) that what Quinn is going ahead with is the opposite to what the rest of the world is doing. Quinn then admitted this was a 'political act'. Some political act, make the big play, but not thought it out, don't consult with interested parties, don't think of the consequences.

This is a government who are now showing they haven't a clue (across the board) about how you govern.

How long will Reilly last (gone b4 Christmas...?), how long will Enda remain teeshock?

[Old Dog]

Bit quick to swallow the bullsh*t weren't you.
Maybe you shouldn't believe all the crap rte feeds you.

Agreed.

It was indeed foolish of me to believe what Ruairi Quinn said on the floor of the Dáil. Clearly, a liar like Quinn isn't fit for office.

Luckily for the democratic process, Doctor Reilly was quick to correct Quinn's lies at the earliest possible opportunity.

On the matter of the Balbriggan care centre - and here I realise that timelines are challenging for mouth breathers to follow, so I'll try to put this as simply as possible:-

What we know (to date)

The HSE identified Balbriggan as a priority in 2007.

The HSE identified a site in Balbriggan during the previous government's time in office. However, negotiations for this site fell through in November 2010.

The HSE signed a lease with the developer of a site [owned by a Reilly supporter] in September 2011. At that time Shortall was responsible for Primary Care clinics, so she must - or should have if she was on top of her brief - been aware of this lease.

Then, in June 2012 - i.e. nine months after that lease had been signed - Shortall instructed the HSE to revise its priority listings - - an act that the intelligent among us would regard as political interference. But Shortall's political interference seemingly didn't affect the status of Balbriggan which remained in 44th place on the list.

So what I'd like explained by the Reilly haters is as follows:-

1. Why haven't they condemned Shortall's political interference with the HSE's list in June 2012?

2. Why, given that the HSE had signed a lease for the Balbriggan site in September 2011 - a time when, it should be noted, Shortall was the Minister responsible - Balbriggan was still on the waiting list for "priority locations in which a care centre should be built", 9 months later?

In summary, if Shortall had had her way, then the HSE would have been squandering taxpayers' funds on leasing a site in Balbriggan (leased during her time in office) for no purpose. Fortunately, Doctor James Reilly, spotted the insanity of Shortall's actions and intervened to ensure that the taxpayer would obtain some benefit from the Balbriggan site that had been leased under Shortall's watch.

The Irish taxpayer is very fortunate that Shortall has mounted her donkey and trotted away into well-deserved obscurity.