Page 1 of 28 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 824
  1. #1
    Pride+Honesty cromulence Cowboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Out riding

    Ulster in Ravenhill. September 2012

    So! 2 wins from 2. Some put their hands up, internationals returning, wonder what team we shall see.

    My only concern is young Dougall has played the entirety of both matches, will he be rested for this one ( a juicy one for him personally )
    Last edited by Cowboy; 10th-September-2012 at 16:00.
    I am the million man.

  2. #2
    Munster Praetorian Guard Kevy-Wevz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    We'd do well, very well, to win this one.

    Still, I'm gonna stick with my prediction from the Treviso thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevy-Wevz View Post
    ... Coughlan, Beta, Dougal et al were given a chance in the pre-season and first two Rabo games to prove what they can bring to Penney's game. When the interanationals(and Stander) are back they will also be given a few games to prove what they can bring. Every player will be given their chance and rewarded with game-time and starts if they do well. No coach is going to keep the trust and respect of the players if the guys don't actually believe this. Rotation is the key word, I trust Penny to not stick with one back-row for the rest of the season but I believe he'll mix it up frequently according to the opposition and keep the competition for places as hot as he can.

    I can't see any big changes for next week. Internationals will probably fill the bench more than anything as Penney starts looking to his HEC team. I know it's a bit early but for the Todgers I'd expect...

    1. Wian
    2. Varley
    3. Botha
    4. DOC
    5. D. Ryan
    6. POM
    7. Dougall
    8. Coughlan
    9. Williams
    10. Keatley
    11. O'Dea
    12. Downey
    13. Laulala
    14. Dougie
    15. Hurley

    Sherry
    Archer
    POC
    DOC2
    Murray
    ROG
    Earls

    I'm thinking Penney will want to keep it as settled as possible and send a message by making the internationals fight for their place as well

  3. #3
    Looking forward to this one. Tickets bought, see ye on the Promenade ...
    Never mind perception because it isn’t real. It’s only what people think. Go out and make them think something else.

    - Alan Quinlan on believing in yourself

  4. #4
    good win for Ulster tonight
    "Lads, your not to miss practice unless your parents died or you died" Frank Leahy

  5. #5
    Leader of the Red Hordes Waterfordlad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Ireland
    Yeah they look good to me. Will be an interesting game
    I realised I was dyslexic when I went to a toga party dressed as a goat

  6. #6
    Munster Berserker
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Dublin, formerly of Cork
    POM and Ryan are still out this week and POC is still injured so I'm going with:

    Wian
    Sherry
    BJ

    DOC
    Holland

    DOC2.0
    Dougall
    Coughlan

    Murray
    Keatley

    LOD
    Downey
    Laulala
    Dougie
    Hurley

    Varley
    Killer
    Archer
    Foley
    TOD
    Williams
    Earls
    ROG

    Not a whole lot of change as with the last two games Id imagine, good chance for Keatley to play with Murray and Id expect ROG and Williams to come on around the same time. The way things are at the moment how can you drop any of the outside backs? Earls to come on for Laulala around 55min mark or you could see him coming in for Hurley with LOD to 15 or for LOD himself as a straight swap. Its a great problem for Penney to have but not a decision Id like to be making, Zebo loses out on this one but likely to play the one after. Headaches all around.

  7. #7
    Munster Praetorian Guard
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    France
    Quote Originally Posted by the_dazz View Post
    The way things are at the moment how can you drop any of the outside backs? Earls to come on for Laulala around 55min mark or you could see him coming in for Hurley with LOD to 15 or for LOD himself as a straight swap. Its a great problem for Penney to have but not a decision Id like to be making, Zebo loses out on this one but likely to play the one after. Headaches all around.
    *edited
    Last edited by mtcmolloy; 12th-September-2012 at 15:04.

  8. #8
    Pride+Honesty cromulence Cowboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Out riding

    Todger tussle. September 2012

    With Robs intent to make full use of the bench I'd be inclined to think we'd see one or two changes to the 15 again but a host of changes to the subs.

    Wian Sherry BJ
    Doc Dutchy
    Butler Callin Dougaay

    Murr Keats

    Luke Downey KC Dougie
    Dinny

    Killer Varl Archie (Foley Beta) (Ryan Pom) Williams Rog Keet.

    Bracketed players subject to fitness
    I am the million man.

  9. #9
    Pride+Honesty cromulence Cowboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Out riding
    Quote Originally Posted by mtcmolloy View Post
    poor old strings. it's not quite working out.

    hey - so yur sayin Butler is now up in the pecking order
    over Dave oCallaghan ?
    I think there is plenty of time for Strings yet this season and he will be called upon, but at nearly 35 he may not be a long term option for us, Williams needs the exposure to situations like Ravinhell if he's going to be No. 2 long term. Plus I thought he had improved week on week and form deserves rewarding.

    Similarly with Beta, he looked a little ring rusty on Friday night but there's feck all between them. Butler just has a little more adaptability and move to 8 when we were making substitutions.

    I'm trying not to envisage a pecking order this season when it comes to the Rabpro, mainly due to the fact that we now use all our subs all the time. Everyone is getting time on the field and nobody is being driven into the ground. When is Niall Ronan due back??
    I am the million man.

  10. #10
    With the B&I Cup on the same weekends as the Heineken, there will be no overlap between the squads. I can see Stringer being the bench option for the HEC, while Williams gets game-time for the As. It makes sense to see what level Williams has reached and to give him more experience at the start of the season, though he might not play much part in the bigger games.

  11. #11
    Pride+Honesty cromulence Cowboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Out riding
    Quote Originally Posted by HenryFitz View Post
    With the B&I Cup on the same weekends as the Heineken, there will be no overlap between the squads. I can see Stringer being the bench option for the HEC, while Williams gets game-time for the As. It makes sense to see what level Williams has reached and to give him more experience at the start of the season, though he might not play much part in the bigger games.
    I think Strings may be the HEC sub 9 as well. He's hugely different to Murr and Williams in style and that will stand to him, plus, he's still a fecking great scrumhalf
    I am the million man.

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to Cowboy For This Useful Post:


  13. #12
    Admiral of the Fleet the plastic paddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Cider country
    I assume there were no complications with Mrs DOC and Donnacha is available for the trip up North? Great credit has to go to Billy Holland and Dave Foley for doing so well on friday but Muller and Stevenson are playing well for the Nordies and I think DOC's experience will be vital this friday.

  14. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
    With Robs intent to make full use of the bench I'd be inclined to think we'd see one or two changes to the 15 again but a host of changes to the subs.

    Wian Sherry BJ
    Doc Dutchy
    Butler Callin Dougaay

    Murr Keats

    Luke Downey KC Dougie
    Dinny

    Killer Varl Archie (Foley Beta) (Ryan Pom) Williams Rog Keet.

    Bracketed players subject to fitness
    Assuming RP wants to win the game then there is no possibility of that team starting.
    The 1st rule of team selection is you put your strongest team out to establish ascendency (hopefully), later you give a run to the fringe players.
    POM, DR, ROG and Earls will start.
    well looka

  15. #14
    Pride+Honesty cromulence Cowboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Out riding
    Quote Originally Posted by MrsMcGahan View Post
    Assuming RP wants to win the game then there is no possibility of that team starting.
    The 1st rule of team selection is you put your strongest team out to establish ascendency (hopefully), later you give a run to the fringe players.
    POM, DR, ROG and Earls will start.
    The main reason I suggested that POM and Ryan were on the bench (at best) was post #6 of this thread.
    I am the million man.

  16. #15
    OK, I'll suspend your death sentence pending medical analysis.
    well looka

  17. #16
    Munster Berserker
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Dublin, formerly of Cork
    The problem with Strings is that as good a scrum half as he is, he doesn't fit into RPs style of play. Obviously quick ball is great but he is far too predictable, kicks badly and too often and doesn't have the running threat that RP is looking for from his 9. RPs game plan will suit Murray down to the ground and I think with a run of games it will be the same for Williams once he finds his feet and gains a bit more confidence. I think the sub 9 spot in the HEC will come down to how comfortable Williams is by then but also depending on the opposition. Unlike other years I think we are going to see a 'horses for courses' approach to the 23, the starting XV might not change a lot but I think the bench will be changing. If I was RP Id have Williams benching this week in the Rabo game and bring him on to help him forget the absolute nightmare he had up there last year and gain that extra bit of confidence in his ability.

  18. #17
    I'd actually like to see as close to first choice as is available, with Williams and Keatley maintained at half back, with ROG & Murray on the bench. Neither has seen a lot of first team action when we're at full strength, and I'd like to see what they can offer, when we're as close to full strength as possible.
    We'll have to uncuff him and "de-dildo" him, obviously... Smash up the furniture like he was chasing you all rapey. Fortunately, he's Italian so that shouldn't be too hard to sell.

  19. The Following User Says Thank You to Captain Average For This Useful Post:


  20. #18
    Munster Praetorian Guard jeepers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Ireland
    The Munster U-19s won up there last weekend.

    Victory For Under 19 Side In Belfast

    8 September 2012, 8:17 pm
    By Olan Allen
    Munster started their Under 19 Interprovincial campaign with a hard earned victory over Ulster at Ravenhill.

    Ulster 10, Munster 13
    Munster made the long trip to Belfast a winning one when they came from behind to defeat the home side.
    The visitors were very poor in the opening half and trailed 10-3 at half time with David Johnston kicking a penalty for Munster.
    The visitors improved in the second half and drew level with a try from substitute Greg Barry which Johnston converted. Johnston kicked a second penalty to put Munster ahead and they held out for a deserved victory. Next up for Munster is a home game against Leinster at Dooradoyle next Friday with a 6.30 kick off.
    Munster: David Johnston (Rockwell); Cillian Ansbro (Youghal), Dan Goggin (St. Munchin's), Ned Hodson (Midleton College), Cormac O'Donnell (St. Munchin's); Shane Airey ( St. Munchin's), Ryan Foley (CBC); Rory Burke (CBC), Ben Burns (Castletroy), Charlie Slowey (CBC); Lee Nicholas (St. Munchin's), Darragh Moloney (CBC): Diarmuid Dee (Crescent Comp.), Oisin O'Mara (Kilfeacle), Sonny Dwyer (Rockwell) Capt.
    Replacements: Liam Cronin (Castletroy), Aidan Slattery (PBC), Conor Glynn (Ard Scoil Ris), Patrick Kearns (Ard Scoil Ris), Jack Dineen (Crescent Comp), Aaron Atkinson (Garryowen), Greg Barry (Crescent Comp), JJ McDonnell (Castletroy).

  21. The Following User Says Thank You to jeepers For This Useful Post:


  22. #19
    Munster A play Ulster A friday at 2.30
    No venue yet
    Presume squad to be announced same time as squad for pro 12 game?

  23. #20
    Munster Dog of War Hermes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Limerick
    Earls will be the most interesting selection. Depending on where he plays we may see what Penney considers to be our best bck line. I presume D. Ryan is not available??
    My hair is more important than timekeeping!

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    Earls will be the most interesting selection. Depending on where he plays we may see what Penney considers to be our best bck line. I presume D. Ryan is not available??
    We won't get D. Ryan, POM or POC this weekend.
    We'll have to uncuff him and "de-dildo" him, obviously... Smash up the furniture like he was chasing you all rapey. Fortunately, he's Italian so that shouldn't be too hard to sell.

  25. The Following User Says Thank You to Captain Average For This Useful Post:


  26. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by ormond lad View Post
    Munster A play Ulster A friday at 2.30
    No venue yet
    Presume squad to be announced same time as squad for pro 12 game?
    Do they now? Might see can I get to at least the second half of that, other commitments permitting. It'll probably be on in Shaw's Bridge.
    Never mind perception because it isn’t real. It’s only what people think. Go out and make them think something else.

    - Alan Quinlan on believing in yourself

  27. #23
    Admiral of the Fleet
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Ireland
    I'd like to see the following:
    Wian Sherry BJ
    DOC / Holland
    Dave / Cawlin / Dougal
    Murray / Keatley
    Downey / Lualala
    Zebo / LOD
    Dougie

    Bench of Killer, Varley, Archer, Foley, Butler, Williams, ROG, Earls.
    "It is understood he received offers from other clubs to continue playing for another year or two but preferred to finish his career with Munster."
    Charlie Mulqueen on Mick O'Driscoll's impending retirement
    17/04/2012

  28. #24
    Dougie at fullback? Hmmmm. Wasn't a fan of him there when we tried that a few years ago.
    We'll have to uncuff him and "de-dildo" him, obviously... Smash up the furniture like he was chasing you all rapey. Fortunately, he's Italian so that shouldn't be too hard to sell.

  29. #25
    Munster Praetorian Guard Kevy-Wevz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Average View Post
    We won't get D. Ryan, POM or POC this weekend.
    Are you sure? Last I heard those three were on course for a return this weekend

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Average View Post
    Dougie at fullback? Hmmmm. Wasn't a fan of him there when we tried that a few years ago.
    We have someone with a very serious claim to be in the top ten wingers ever to play the game, the highest-scoring All Black winger ever, who is playing like someone five years younger, and leading by example.

    You do NOT move that sort of weaponry out of position to try and avoid making a decision on dropping another player, impressive though he is. He wants the slot on the wing, let him unequivocally take it.
    Vorsprung durch Pfennig.

  31. The Following User Says Thank You to Thomond78 For This Useful Post:


  32. #27
    Admiral of the Fleet
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Ireland
    Quote Originally Posted by Thomond78 View Post
    We have someone with a very serious claim to be in the top ten wingers ever to play the game, the highest-scoring All Black winger ever, who is playing like someone five years younger, and leading by example.

    You do NOT move that sort of weaponry out of position to try and avoid making a decision on dropping another player, impressive though he is. He wants the slot on the wing, let him unequivocally take it.
    I normally agree with that sentiment.
    But I do think a back three of Zebo / Earls & Dougie would be better than any of those two and Hurley. That's why I suggested Dougie to FB. The other way, would be to play Earls at FB. He has played very well there for the Lions and for Ireland.

    Hurley is a good solid player for us, but that's as far as he goes.
    "It is understood he received offers from other clubs to continue playing for another year or two but preferred to finish his career with Munster."
    Charlie Mulqueen on Mick O'Driscoll's impending retirement
    17/04/2012

  33. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Bitter As A Lemon View Post
    I'd like to see the following:
    Wian Sherry BJ
    DOC / Holland
    Dave / Cawlin / Dougal
    Murray / Keatley
    Downey / Lualala
    Zebo / LOD
    Dougie

    Bench of Killer, Varley, Archer, Foley, Butler, Williams, ROG, Earls.
    Most of Dougie's clearance kicks make it into compilations of 'You've been framed'
    well looka

  34. The Following User Says Thank You to MrsMcGahan For This Useful Post:


  35. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Bitter As A Lemon View Post
    I normally agree with that sentiment.
    But I do think a back three of Zebo / Earls & Dougie would be better than any of those two and Hurley. That's why I suggested Dougie to FB. The other way, would be to play Earls at FB. He has played very well there for the Lions and for Ireland.

    Hurley is a good solid player for us, but that's as far as he goes.
    Earls at fullback for me, if we're going with that back three.
    When you consider O'Dea is well in the mix now, we certainly aren't lacking in options for the back three. There's some serious pace back there now.
    We'll have to uncuff him and "de-dildo" him, obviously... Smash up the furniture like he was chasing you all rapey. Fortunately, he's Italian so that shouldn't be too hard to sell.

  36. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by MrsMcGahan View Post
    Most of Dougie's clearance kicks make it into compilations of 'You've been framed'
    Agreed. He's a better scrummager than a kicker. FB is a specialist position, part of the decision-making spine of the team, and not one to be treated as a catch-all to shove people into to avoid making tough selection decisions.

    On another note, could we please change the thread title? The thought of tussling with Big-Al or Jackie Brown's todgers is a bit much for a Monday lunchtime...
    Vorsprung durch Pfennig.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •