Exeter 43, Sale 6. Applying Sky Spurts rules, I now proclaim Tommy Hayes the best second row on earth...
Exeter 43, Sale 6. Applying Sky Spurts rules, I now proclaim Tommy Hayes the best second row on earth...
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How did the World's Greatest Lock (c) Stuart Barnes 2012 play?Originally Posted by Thomond78
Exeter 43, Sale 6. Applying Sky Spurts rules, I now proclaim Tommy Hayes the best second row on earth...
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If we're talking list of players he'd have to get past, if Bradley Davies ever stopped being a cock he'd be a better contender for best lock. Gray is great at certain things but he's not that great at the nuts and bolts of the lock's game. Very good, could be top class, but there's a lot of guys like Davies, Ryan etc on their day who can compete with him just in our (relative) back yard.
\"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"
Bradley Davies has everything he needs to be a great.
Except for some form of on-pitch link between his two brain-cells. He makes Mongo look like a Mensa member.
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How does Devin stack up in those stats? On the surface, it would seem pretty credibly. no?
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If you want a Scot to hype, BTW, I'd say Ross Ford. A very good hooker playing in a very poor team. Give him better players around him, and I reckon he could blossom.
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Called ashore after 69, apparently. Scrum okay but lineout shoddy, it seems. Mushy came on after 53.
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Jesus what a hit, etzebeth was hardly moving either
And massively helped by the tackler making a complete **** up of the tackle - went too high, no real oomph from the shoulder, head in totally the wrong place, hence the stinger he received which took him out - sorry guys but there's nothing special about what happened there, you see people screw up on tackling and getting bounced like that regularly.
\"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"
he'll never be a top class lineout operator.
Was on Bismarck Du Plessis.....do I need to say anymore?? When he hits you, regardless of technique, you go backwards!!
It does not matter how big and strong you are, your brain and nerves are the same as the next man, get your head on the wrong side and you will pay for it.
but he didn't hit him, that's the point, he made a total screw up, no hit with the shoulder, head in wrong place, wrong height, poor body position, he might as well have deliberately lined himself up to be bounced because he did everything right to achieve it, the slow mo is one of the best "how not to tackle" videos you'll ever see. If you want to see impressive see if you can find the one where David Wallace takes the ball standing still, Jason White lines him up and smashes into him with everything right and Wally bounces him. That was impressive power, this was a poor tackle.
\"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"
Every thing in context. Whilst there are no arguments that one swallow does a summer not make, considering that the guy who tries to tackle him is Bismarck Du Plessis - who is an absolute, and proven, tank - I think that speaks volumes as to the strength of Etzebeth. I don't remember anyone doing that to Du Plessis ever, yet alone from a standing start. Give the guy his dues.
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The context though is that the guy made a mess of the attempted tackle, it would be impressive if the guy had been in the correct position and slamming him when he did it, as it is I would only repeat that you see people who get their body positioning wrong like this bowled over regularly, it doesn't really matter who it is or what they've done other times, similar to someone like SOB getting brushed off recently. You get your position wrong against guys this fit/size you get bounced. If people are impressed by it then that's up to them but I'm not. That's got nothing to do with being disrespectful to the guy, it's about seeing what actually happened for what it was, a really poorly executed tackle that got what it deserves.
\"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"
Scott Murray? Who John Eales rated as the best lineout forward in the world at the time? Can't imagine why he was selected.
Cusiter in 2005 and Blair in '09 I'll give you both though.
Alistair, you've gone soft on us! Boo! BOOOOOOO!!!!
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I was too polite to comment on the pile of garbage you wrote suggesting taking Euan Murray in '09 was a bad choice compared to John Hayes.Alistair, you've gone soft on us! Boo! BOOOOOOO!!!!
Murray, after destroying the SA scrum the previous year, was eating opponents for fun in the warm-up games. Only breaking his ankle stopped him stepping into the test side with Jones.
Ah, yes: Euan Murray, the biggest "great, really, honest" Scot since Bonny Prince Charlie. A poor man's Tonga'ui'ha.
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Don't they play on opposite sides of the scrum?
You're right, Tonga'ui'ha is sticking his head in Bitey-Gouger
Hartley's left ear, Ref-Bosher Mujati in his right.
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Murray was a rarity in that he was a guy who looked good but didn't actually get any better in the Lions (was probably as good as he was going to get with Scotland), whereas guys like Davidson (to use an Irish example) looked good generally but improved in the better environment.
\"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"
I think that's a reasonable assessment but if he was in the Munster squad would you have him as a starter or on the bench? Be honest...I know you will be.
Lets put it this way Clubman - if Gray played for Munster the Ladys would be saying he's not a patch on DT, but if he played for the Ladys and Toner played for Munster then DT would have been 'sent to the Turnips because he was never any good'
Gray? Not sure, great ball carrier but I like what we have with Ryan and POC and I think they have more grunt in them. If Gray could be a more physical presence but kept carrying (which is very difficult) I'd start him. I know people will talk about his size BUT for his size he beats people with pace not power and his outstanding defensive contribution is about covering backs. You don't see him blasting people and when a back gets around his legs he generally gets stopped. I wouldn't say no to having him around and I'd probably have him on the bench to come on later in the game, when we could have worn people down, to play havoc - which he would do as effectively an extra back row.
Davies however I'd consider more as a starter if I thought he could stay on the pitch. He's a pretty good carrier of the more traditional kind who also does the grunt work, useful lineout operator. Honestly don't think his game has any weaknesses it's his mentality that lets him down.
\"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"
As an example of this being fairly common there's this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeFH8...eature=related, again the guy just makes an utter shambles of the tackle and gets put on his arse as he deserves.
\"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"
Thought he had joined us!!
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