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This doing the rounds in a big way now but is it not a couple of years old? I remember hearing the debate on the way back from work one day
Marty in the Morning
2 years old, not sure why it's being brought up now...
\"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies. My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness\".
Dalai Lama
Straight talking....no sh1t.
Man of convictions.
Anybody who sees a psychiatrist would want their head examined.*&nb sp;Henry Ford
http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-3209106.htmlOriginally Posted by John123
well looka
The clip has become viral in the US in the past few days. Seemingly There's some sort of election thingy coming up there later this year and Dee's status as the current President of our 26 County Statelet gives even his historic utterances a degree of significance on the world stage.
He is/was dead right, its about time those Americans who have their heads shoved firmly up the collective holes of Palin et all have a few home truths spelt out to them. The more and more I see America in action the more I despair.
"Everything good about Ireland can be found in County Cork"....Lonely Planet Guide 2012
Absolutely. And the more that I hear Dee lecturing people in foreign countries about their faults and shortcomings, the more that I wish we had someone like him in Ireland who could lecture the political establishment here about all of the things that it's been doing wrong over the past couple of decades.
Joe Higgins.
It's built into the Higgins genes to rubbish the authorities.
Alex tried it but got banned.
well looka
Fear is a stick the Americans use well, watch Fox News and there is always an ALERT running accross the bottom of the screen, depending on their mood it even changes colour to become a Heightened Alert or God forbid even a Terror Alert. Pure propaganda which the average Joe may not fall for but enough do.
Would I be right in saying that there has only ever been one terrorist attack in the US of A yet half the nation or more are in a semi permanent state of fear of terrorist attacks?
"Everything good about Ireland can be found in County Cork"....Lonely Planet Guide 2012
Two people shot outside the Empire State Building in NYC....
Fox will go into meltdown....
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody - Bill Cosby
Wasn't the shooting at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin an act of terrorism?
19 shot and wounded in Chicago over night...Two people shot outside the Empire State Building in NYC....
Fox will go into meltdown....
4 Feb 2011 - Gilmore on the General Election
"Frankfurts way or Labours way."
28 Feb 2012 - Gilmore on a yes vote for the fiscal treaty
"A vote for economic stability and a vote for economic recovery."
Tut tut LD. EVERYBODY knows that them thar muslems are ALL terrorists!!
You are either with us or against us!!!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody - Bill Cosby
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody - Bill Cosby
You mean like Sky News..? Where there is 'Breaking News' in highlighted red 24/7
Fair play to Michael D. though, really didn't think he had it in him
You would be very wrong there.
...in what way will you feel more Irish if you force me to give up my feeling of being British? - David Ervine
Oklahoma was one. Pearl harbour another.
Pearl Harbour was in wartime thats not terrorism.
"Everything good about Ireland can be found in County Cork"....Lonely Planet Guide 2012
wow, what rousing passionate and oh so true words from michael d.mitey man.
No, the Alert thing is always separate from the scrolling headlines banner.
I have not listened to it again but my recollection from the initial 'debate' was Graham(as he usually does) generally antagonised Michael D who didn't know how to deal with him and couldn't pin him down, so he just lost his cool and sounded like an angry man.
The 1st Trade Towers attack would have been a terrorist attack from non nationals.
The edited version of the interview on YouTube isn't a fair reflection of he actual interview in my opinion.
Pearl Harbour was not American soil, Hawaii was a protectorate of the US in 1940, it joined the Union of States of America in 1959.
Also, the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 by foreign fundamentalists happened before the domestic terrorist act in Oklahoma in 1995.
Prior to 1993 there were a whole host of attacks on US soil, most by US citizens who identified closely with their own ethnic backgrounds and their parents homelands (Puerto Ricans in the 1970s & 80s, Germans in the 1914-1918 war years, and some other foreign influenced groups).
In terms of domestic terrorism n the USA, the list is ridiculously long. Unabomber, anti-abortion nuts, those that murdered Lincoln, McKinley and Kennedy while as presidents; John Hinckley Jnr, Columbine.... the list goes on and on.
“People are broad-minded. They'll accept the fact that a person can be an alcoholic, a dope fiend, a wife beater and even a newspaperman, but if a man doesn't drive, there's something wrong with him.” - Art Buchwald
It wasn't in wartime.
Well, there's a surprise.
Libertarian nut not happy with Michael D. shredding their mouth foamer propaganda.
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The President has momentously said the unsayable about our economy
In his speech to the European Parliament, President Michael D Higgins lived up to every expectation we could have had of him
Fri, Apr 19, 2013, 12:01
First published: Fri, Apr 19, 2013, 12:00
On Wednesday, at roughly the time President Michael D Higgins was delivering his momentous speech to the European Parliament, I was attending a meeting of concerned citizens seeking to forge alliances with a view to action when the inevitable happens.
These were mainly people who have educated themselves as to the true meaning of what is currently happening to European citizens, and the possibilities for saner, socially useful systems of banking and economic management.
Some were business people from whom the material rewards of a lifetime’s work have been stolen by the three-card trickery of international banking.
Others were barely out of college, young men who have been radicalised by watching their country slip from what seemed like abundance to hopelessness, just at the moment when they were expecting to inherit it. The average age of the gathering was a little over 30.
The meeting brought me back to similar gatherings in those pre-Tiger days of the early 1990s, when you could talk about the intrinsic dysfunction of the prevailing economic or banking model without being laughed out of court. Back then you might find yourself listening to the late green economist Richard Douthwaite expound on the possibilities of parallel microcurrencies, or sit beside the former taoiseach Garret FitzGerald at a public conference as he debated the merits of a basic income for all citizens.
Such discussion was brought to an abrupt end by the Celtic Tiger. What would be the point in talking about alternative systems when everything was so hunky dory? Who could argue with success?
Now the discussion has recommenced. Sitting in rooms like this you get an entirely different understanding of what has been happening than you might pick up from, for example, the radio or TV, where the discussion is chiefly concerned with rebooting the broken system.
The “experts” who describe “reality” in these contexts are invariably people who have stakes in the present system, either by virtue of being employed by banks or other economic agencies, or simply because they have committed themselves to some predictive analysis that rules out other options. But the people in that room on Wednesday have no stake in the present system, have either lost everything or never had anything to lose.
For several hours we sat talking and listening, oblivious that, at those very same moments, our President was touching on precisely the same themes, 700 miles away in Strasbourg.
Surge of relief
Soon after leaving the meeting, I got a call from Newstalk, asking if I would come on The Right Hook to talk about the President’s speech. Reading the text they sent me, I felt an enormous surge of relief, something like I experienced as a child when some disaster seemed imminent and my father came home and took charge of things.
In a carefully crafted and historical-minded speech, the President said some very clear things, and in doing so lived up to every conceivable expectation we might have had arising from his election 18 months ago. Here is the core of his statement: “We cannot . . . ignore the fact that European citizens are suffering the consequences of actions and opinions of bodies such as rating agencies, which, unlike parliaments, are unaccountable.
“Many of our citizens regard the response to the crisis as disparate, sometimes delayed, not equal to the urgency of the task and showing insufficient solidarity. They feel that the economic narrative of recent years has been driven by dry technical concerns; for example, by calculations geared primarily by a consideration of the impact on speculative markets, rather than by sufficient compassion and empathy with the predicament of European citizens who are members of a union.
“In facing up to the challenges Europe currently faces, particularly in relation to unemployment, we cannot afford to place our singular trust in a version of a logistical, economic theory whose assumptions are questionable and indifferent to social consequences in terms of their outcome.”
The President did not go all the way, though perhaps he went as far as he could go within the constitutional limits. It is possible to argue with various characterisations in his speech – for example his choice of words such as “compassion” in elaborating the possibility of alternative understandings. What we need, of course, is not compassion but reason exercised in the common good.
It is possible to be sympathetic to the efforts of the present generation of politicians to maintain some form of stability in the face of a disintegrating system. But there can be no forgiveness for their refusal to speak truthfully about the true extent and deeper meanings of the present crisis.
But we can sleep a little easier now that the President has spoken as he has. For we now have the hope that there is at least one leader in Europe who may be willing, when the moment arises, to say the unsayable, to tell the emperors and empresses, to their faces, that they are not wearing clothes.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/polit...1364716?page=1
He said it, but was anyone who makes the important decisions listening? I fear not
Con Artist
No. People tried to read the text of the speech to them, but as usual, they closed their eyes, stuck their fingers in their ears and sang as loud as they could, "La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La"
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