According to John Fogarty on Twitter:
@JohnFogartyIrl: Central Council to ask Congress 2013 to amend rule 5 & make 6 stadiums available to IRFU for feasibility study into hosting World Cup #GAA
@JohnFogartyIrl: Grounds are Croke Park, Páirc Uí Chaoimh, Gaelic Grounds, Fitzgerald Stadium, Pearse Stadium and Casement Park #GAA
"We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow
"Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy
There will be carnage on here if a game of rugby is ever played in Fitzgerald stadium.
“Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances.”
If New Zealand, with its appalling tourism infrastructure, can do it, why the hell not Ireland? It's the 2027 we're aiming for, methinks, which would give the GAA plenty of time to redevelop the stadia, with Government backing no doubt.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gael...d-3203124.htmlGAA back rugby world cup bid
By Martin Breheny
Saturday August 18 2012
IRELAND’S bid to stage the 2023 Rugby World Cup is likely to receive a significant boost today with the GAA beginning the process of making Croke Park and some other grounds available if the big event comes here.
The Irish Independent understands that the matter will be raised at the GAA’s Central Council meeting, where a proposal to support the IRFU’s World Cup initiative is expected to be accepted in principle. The IRFU indicated last February that it was considering applying to host the 2023 World Cup, but that it would be contingent on strong Government backing
That’s likely to be forthcoming, but since Lansdowne Road and Thomond Park are the only rugby grounds currently suitable for a major tournament, the GAA’s participation was always going to be necessary if Ireland were to have any chance of convincing the IRB that it was feasible to stage the World Cup here.
As GAA regulations currently stand, Central Council has the power to make Croke Park available for sports other than Gaelic games, but it would require a rule amendment by Congress to open the various grounds around the country.
However, it’s highly probable that the GAA membership would back the change in order to strengthen Ireland’s bid for one of world sport’s glamour events.
Apart from Croke Park, the high-capacity GAA grounds which could host major World Cup games are Pairc Ui Chaoimh, Semple Stadium, Casement Park, Fitzgerald Stadium, Killarney and the Limerick Gaelic Grounds.
Smaller grounds which could be used include Pearse Stadium in Galway, McHale Park in Castlebar, Portlaoise's O'Moore Park, O'Connor Park, Tullamore, Nowlan Park in Kilkenny and Wexford Park.
However, it's the availability of high-capacity stadiums in various parts of the country which would add serious weight to Ireland's bid.
Croke Park would dovetail with Lansdowne Road as the main hub, with Cork, Belfast and Limerick also in the loop. The Cork County Board are in the final stages of planning a major redevelopment of Pairc Ui Chaoimh, transforming it into a 45,000 all-seater stadium.
Meanwhile, Casement Park, Belfast will have a 40,000 capacity when the redevelopment is completed in 2015. The timing of the rugby World Cup is ideal from a GAA perspective as it would come after the All-Ireland finals, running right through October.
Also, the use of several grounds would bring millions of euro into GAA coffers -- they earned €36m from renting Croke Park for soccer and rugby from 2007 to 2010.
England stages the Rugby World Cup in 2015, followed by Japan in 2019.
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about time..... I am sick of that country embarrassing me.....
He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.
New Zealand?
Judging by whats going around social media it seems to have been passed...Great move!!
By passed...i should have said its gone to the next stage...a vote at congress
Just heard on radio - passed unanimously by Central Council to put it to next Congress. Sounds very positive that it is for the national good, so will do it.
Interesting that the spiritual home of the GAA will not be violated!
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As long as Mafi lines out for Ireland, everything will be forgiven.Originally Posted by fitzy73
For the over the hill and the past-it, nothing is impossible.
Ryanair will already be putting their prices up!
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people
By the time this happens it could possibly be one of his kids lining out for Ireland.
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards - checkmate!" Zapp Brannigan
You'd think the GAA owned it, going by the way you're carrying on...
Mods, please delete my thread on this, sorry, I missed this thread and the edit facility won't allow me to do so.
Tommy O'Donnell - David Wallace Mk. 2.
Here is a list of stadiums currently in Ireland....
http://www.worldstadiums.com/europe/.../ireland.shtml
with some funding, updating and add it a few of the stadiums from the North, Ravenhill, Casement Park...... in 10-15 years.... it's something that could definitely happen....
imagine a halftime show of Hurling and football.... brilliant....
He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.
Will the teams based in Munster train in Cork or Limerick or will they do half and half ?
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Nah, fitzy, when the tourism interests in the town and county tell the local GAA men the facts of life about continuing sponsorship etc, they will roll over to have their bellies tickled. It costs a lot of money to keep Kerry GAA teams going and local businesses give a lot - this will be payback time.
After the dabacle of failing to sell Tralee grounds in boom, financing plans for county Centre of Excellence are in trouble - as Tesco say, every little helps. And this is a live issue - witness Paul Galvins swipe lately at County Board for delays in getting it off the ground
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Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch! "Not only is it not right, it's not even wrong!"[Wolfgang Pauli]
I think IC Fitzy is referring to the constant ****e on here about Munster playing a game in Killarney. Incidentally I hear the GAA don't own Fizgerald Stadium.
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Interesting Semple Stadium isn't one of them. I wonder why?
That could be an interesting read!
AFAIK Mafi has 2 girls .. so they wouldn't be featuring in a 2023 RWC as the womens RWC does not happen the same year as the mens.
Plato: \"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.\"
Anyone who was over at last year's RWC will tell ya that not all of the potential stadia here would need a full overhaul. Just look at Rotorua "International" Stadium.
"Strike me flamin' handsome!!!" - Alf Stewart
His body is only a fuel tank for his micky - a work colleague talking about a fella he knows.
Can't find it online, but I've heard that he defended the tactics that Tipp deployed yesterday - including his late return to the field in the second half which, apparently, was intended to rattle Kilkenny and upset Jackie Tyrrell!
Cheerleaders?
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards - checkmate!" Zapp Brannigan
really ? you want to suggest to Lifemi Mafi that his 2 daughters should be cheerleaders ... rather you than me mate!
Plato: \"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.\"
Someone should have told him the only way to rattle Kilkenny is to hit them early, hard and often, both physically and, more importantly, on the Scoreboard.
Galway did this in the Leinster Final. Our lads used to do it in the 90s
“We’re in this mess, not because Fianna Fail policies have failed, but because they have succeeded.” They haven't gone away, you know"
... or perhaps he'll be man enough to let his daughters make up their own minds?
Mack, the stadium in Killarney is in fact owned by the Fitzgerald Stadium Trustees, but as the GAA at national and provincial level have invested over many, many years, the thinking in the county is that de facto, if not strictly de jure, the GAA controls it, not owns it. Think we trashed this one out back in t'day of bringing home HEC semi finals to Dublin. Central Council, then Congress, then Trustees need to consent. Part one over, it seems.
A place never mentioned for rugby is Windsor Park in Belfast - any of our Northerly brethren know its capacity and its suitability?
Doubt that Limerick would need the Gaelic Grounds unless Ireland, Wales, England, Australia or NZ would be based there. The first three would bring a massive following and the latter two would attract neutrals and ex-pats.
For the likes of, say, Scotland V Samoa, or France v Georgia, 26,500 should be large enough. Purpose of PuC would surely to have a deserved base in Cork for a significant group. Advantage for GAA, besides financial and goodwill rewards, is that only minor physical changes would be needed as both organisations have no problem with terraces, unlike our soccerball comrades.
Not to sure with using Pearse Stadium, since Connacht do not fill The Sportsground very often, so what chance Samoa, Fiji, Japan, USA, Italy, etc filling a much bigger stadium. There is a fine set up in Castlebar.
Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch! "Not only is it not right, it's not even wrong!"[Wolfgang Pauli]
It's due to be revamped as an 18,000 all-seater by 2017. http://www.irishfa.com/news/item/741...pment-project/
But its location is, shall we say, sub-optimal!
If we assume ( in some cases a big ask, in others not)
- the top 8 in 2021, when the draw is being made, are: New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, France, England, Wales, Ireland, and Argentina.
- the same format ( four pools of five) is maintained.
- the draw is done in the same way,
Then the Pools would be along the lines of:
- New Zealand, Argentina +3
- Australia, Ireland +3
- South Africa, Wales +3
- France, England. +3
Which Grounds are needed would depend on the policy followed by the IRFU. If they wanted to base a Pool in a specific location, then:
- Ireland's Pool will have to be in Dublin
- Wales's and England's Pools would have to be located in Cork and Limerick and Páirc Ui Chaoimh and Páirc na nGael would both be needed.
- New Zealand's pool would be in Belfast.
If they decided that the country is small enough to move the pools around ( like France did for the 1998 Soccer WC) then Dublin would probably get all of the "big" games with the rest of the country fighting over the scraps.
The QFs would be in PUC, PNG, Ravenhill and Lansdowne, the Semis in Croke Park and Lansdowne and the final in Croke Park.
“We’re in this mess, not because Fianna Fail policies have failed, but because they have succeeded.” They haven't gone away, you know"
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