Interesting Won/Lost/Draw stats over the years

[he man rugger pints]

Obvious stark turnaround under Gatland, EOS and one year with Kidney in the 2000's, then an alarming fall off since 2010 leaving us with the worst winning percentage of the top nine nations. I knew Ireland have performed poorly since the GS year, but I didn't realise it was that bad until seeing these statistics.

2010s

Won Lost Drawn %
New Zealand 29 26 3 0 89.65
Australia 32 21 11 0 65.62
Argentina 22 14 8 0 63.63
France 31 19 11 1 62.9
England 32 19 11 2 62.5
South Africa 26 15 10 1 59.61
Scotland 29 13 15 1 46.55
Wales 38 17 20 1 46.05
Ireland 33 14 18 1 43.93

2000s

Team Won Lost Draw %
New Zealand 100 21 1 82.37
Ireland 72 37 2 65.76
Argentina 56 32 0 63.63
England 72 43 0 62.6
France 73 44 2 62.18
South Africa 76 47 2 61.6
Australia 74 46 3 61.38
Wales 55 59 3 48.29
Scotland 39 64 1 37.98

1990s

Team Won Lost Draw %
New Zealand 68 22 2 75
Australia 71 24 1 74.47
England 61 28 2 68.13
South Africa 54 26 2 67.07
France 73 39 1 65.04
Argentina 48 44 1 52.15
Wales 48 49 1 49.48
Scotland 36 44 2 45.12
Ireland 24 54 2 31.25

1980s

Team Won Lost Draw %
New Zealand 45 9 3 81.57
South Africa 22 5 0 81.48
Argentina 29 16 3 63.54
France 48 31 4 60.24
Australia 38 25 3 59.84
Wales 30 29 1 50.83
England 28 28 5 50
Scotland 26 27 4 49.12
Ireland 20 32 1 38.67

1970s

Team Won Lost Draw %
Wales 32 11 3 72.82
South Africa 15 6 4 68
Argentina 29 16 2 63.82
New Zealand 27 15 3 63.33
France 44 24 8 63.15
Australia 18 23 2 44.18
Ireland 17 24 7 42.7
Scotland 16 29 2 36.17
England 15 33 3 32.35

1960s

Team Won Lost Draw %
New Zealand 35 4 3 86.9
South Africa 28 14 5 64.89
Argentina 14 8 2 62.5
France 45 27 10 60.97
Wales 20 22 6 47.91
England 16 22 10 43.75
Scotland 19 25 4 43.75
Ireland 17 25 5 41.48
Australia 11 27 2 30

1950s

Team Won Lost Draw %
New Zealand 22 7 1 75
Wales 29 12 2 69.76
South Africa 13 7 1 64.28
France 34 21 3 61.2
England 22 15 6 58.13
Argentina 6 7 1 46.42
Ireland 17 22 4 44.18
Scotland 11 30 2 27.9
Australia 7 27 1 21.42

1940s

Team Won Lost Draw %
South Africa 4 0 0 100
Ireland 9 4 0 69.23
France 13 10 0 56.52
Wales 6 6 1 50
Australia 6 8 1 43.33
England 5 7 1 42.3
New Zealand 4 6 0 40
Scotland 4 9 0 30.76
Argentina 0 4 0 0

1930s

Team Won Lost Draw %Descending
South Africa 13 4 0 76.47
France 16 5 0 76.19
New Zealand 14 7 1 65.9
Wales 18 13 3 57.35
England 17 13 4 55.88
Argentina 3 3 0 50
Ireland 15 19 0 44.11
Scotland 12 21 1 36.76
Australia 7 13 1 35.71

1920s

Team Won Lost Draw %
England 29 10 3 72.61
South Africa 6 3 2 63.63
Scotland 25 14 2 63.41
New Zealand 7 6 1 53.57
Ireland 18 22 2 45.23
Wales 17 22 3 44.04
Australia 16 26 0 38.09
France 12 36 2 26
Argentina 0 4 0 0

1910s

Team Won Lost Draw %Descending
South Africa 7 1 0 87.5
New Zealand 8 2 0 80
England 16 4 1 78.57
Wales 15 7 0 68.18
Ireland 10 10 1 50
Australia 3 7 0 30
Scotland 6 14 0 30
France 1 19 0 5
Argentina 0 1 0 0

1900s

Team Won Lost Draw %
New Zealand 11 1 2 85.71
Wales 28 6 1 81.42
South Africa 3 1 3 64.28
Scotland 17 13 2 56.25
Ireland 11 21 1 34.84
England 11 23 3 33.78
Australia 1 8 1 15
France 0 8 0 0

[i_like_cake]

You´re dead right, what was a superior Munster pack in the noughties, supplying most of the 1-10, were terrorizing the teams internationally too... now all that is basically replaced by Leinster and Ulster forwards that are getting beaten up internationally....

good spot....

And to get to your main point... I do hope Kidney is replaced after the next 6 nations... so the complaining by the Ladyboys and Todgers fans might not be as so predictive anymore....

[Sketchy]

Obvious stark turnaround under Gatland, EOS and one year with Kidney in the 2000's, then an alarming fall off since 2010 leaving us with the worst winning percentage of the top nine nations. I knew Ireland have performed poorly since the GS year, but I didn't realise it was that bad until seeing these statistics.

I do agree with your sentiments that Kidney's departure is long over due. However, comparing data compiled from a full decade against 2 years is absolutely special. Well done.

[Huwie]

Those stats are a bit mad. Where did this come from?

[mr chips]

I remember how great it was under EOS when we had such a brilliant win-loss ratio that we were the bestest team in the world. Like, evah. Look at all the trophies it got us.

[rathbaner]

So! We should have played New Zealand during the Second World War. Another black mark against Dev.

[he man rugger pints]

I do agree with your sentiments that Kidney's departure is long over due. However, comparing data compiled from a full decade against 2 years is absolutely special. Well done.

Obviously only 2.5 seasons to go on, but we've been appalling since 2010. While I knew that Ireland have performed poorly since our undefeated year in 2009, I wasn't aware that we had the worst win ratio of the top nine countries. Maybe you were already aware of the fact, I wasn't and felt it was noteworthy.

[Ruck Em]

There might only be 2.5 years gone in the 2010's but we have already nearly played (and will have after the Autumn Int) more than 50% more games than the entire 1990's

[Thomond78]

Sigh. Looks like the WUMs are back after their pre-season. And it was so peaceful...

[mr chips]

The WUMS may find that the sandpit is a lot smaller than it used to be.

[The Last Stand]

The WUMS may find that the sandpit is a lot smaller than it used to be.

I would prefer quick sand.

[mr chips]

That's the method of disposal alright.

[Sketchy]

Obviously only 2.5 seasons to go on, but we've been appalling since 2010. While I knew that Ireland have performed poorly since our undefeated year in 2009, I wasn't aware that we had the worst win ratio of the top nine countries. Maybe you were already aware of the fact, I wasn't and felt it was noteworthy.

I was painfully aware of this, yes. I watched every game. The 2010s table is a damning indictment of the current set-up no doubt. You could have posted that alone. You lost me when you started posting decades and decades of pointless stats as if this was lending credence to your argument.

[taz]

Those stats are a bit mad. Where did this come from?

Robbed from a poster on Planet Rugby.

[Dowlinz]

Alarming form but still a small sample size and weakened by 3 tests to new zealand and world cup warmups where we just didn't really take them seriously. The reality is we've had two bad six nations in a row and I wouldn't extent the problems under Kidney beyond that. A third one and he should go.

[Sketchy]

Alarming form but still a small sample size and weakened by 3 tests to new zealand and world cup warmups where we just didn't really take them seriously. The reality is we've had two bad six nations in a row and I wouldn't extent the problems under Kidney beyond that. A third one and he should go.

I love Kidney to the core as a die hard Munster fan. He brought me 3 of the greatest moments I have ever had. Unfortunately, though, and it has to be said, he has not brought Ireland in the direction I had hoped since the GS. Our style of play is woeful. Kidney was a master of playing the 10 man game, which was far easier to do under the old laws. The game has sped up thanks to Southern Hemisphere lobbying, and I for one believe it is to be welcomed. We have the skillset and talent to play the type of game required. Kidney for all his triumphs as a coach is unable to play with the tempo and style required to lift us off the bottom of that 2010s table. And although I think this thread is way off with what it is trying to suggest, the underlying sentiments are about right (IMO), that Kidney is about 18 months too long in the job. I hate saying that. But, I think, it has to be said.

[offshorerules]

Honestly do these sort threads actualy contribute anything to the site other than relieving the boredom of the minority?

[Thomond78]

So! We should have played New Zealand during the Second World War. Another black mark against Dev.

They were too busy playing informal tests against the Springboks. There was one in the Western Desert, apparently, where, if one believes some stories, the AA of an entire division was pulled back to cover the game. They even ran informal AB v. Bokke games in prison camps: the great Okey Geffen played in one (and a goal-kicking Jewish TH playing in a WWII German prison camp, and whose kicking in 1949 led to them white-washing the ABs in NZ, makes him a legend by anyone's standards).

[joeriddick]

I definitely think Kidney should be given another eight years to see if these stats really play out over a similar time frame. At the end of those eight, long years De Beloo Sorcerers Wha and Todgebyville can have a look at the stats and say with statistical certainty that Kidney is most certainly Not Up To Coaching At This Level (c) 2012. Unless he manages to fluke another Grand Slam in those eight years, the lucky scamp.

[Thomond78]

Oh, Joe, you little sample-size urchin, you.

[Hugged Rugger]

would prefer stats on world cup cycles

[Ratbastard]

Any stats or data that could possibly hint at Ireland underperforming under Kidney shouldn't be allowed on this site.