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    Quote Originally Posted by exiled to connacht View Post
    he blew a try. i was at the game and the result was extremely demoralising. Many of the supporters were saying that they had seen enough and wudnt be wasting their time in the future. The team is really lacking in real leadership on and off the pitch. Young talented players like tiernan o halloran often look lazy on the pitch and get away with it. they play a predominantly kicking game yet select a 10 who isnt a good kicker of the ball and they have a very good pack until they get inside the opposition 22 when they go to pieces. i have never seen a team with such a case of white line fever either. if there is a way to f** it up they always find it. very frustrating.
    Sounds like us (Munster) last season - there's no short term solution unfortunately. It can only be rectified in the off season.
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    watched that tonite...if they could cut out the stupid errors they could win a few games...very disappointing, a team going nowhere for moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooke View Post
    watched that tonite...if they could cut out the stupid errors they could win a few games...very disappointing, a team going nowhere for moment.
    A team forced to make eight changes one week and six the next is always going to struggle to minimise mistakes. Most scores occurred from the naievity of our young backline, actually expected Glasgow to hammer us so only disappointed we couldn't hold out for a bonus point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea_point View Post
    A team forced to make eight changes one week and six the next is always going to struggle to minimise mistakes. Most scores occurred from the naievity of our young backline, actually expected Glasgow to hammer us so only disappointed we couldn't hold out for a bonus point...
    Was poor enough stuff. Jack Carty played well though and looks a fine prospect.
    Pack did ok. Expected more from them to be honest.

    It was a poor game overall and Glasgow look like they will struggle badly. We're on a road to nowhere at present. And the injuries will make it another long long season
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    Connacht looked a lot better this week especially away from home. They owned the Ball for long periods of the second half, and the picking and going up the middle looked good at times. backline was poor although McSharry made a great line for that break. 14 doesnt look up to much. the Pacific Islander? wit the pony tail looked handy enough when he came on. Glasgow were offside all night
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    Back play is still very poor. Our only success was McSharry or Fafita when he came on, up the guts.

    Anything outside that was suicide stuff brought on by poor passing and players in static deep positions receiving the ball

    Forwards did ok, Naoupu and O Connor v good, had alot of success with pick and go

    Looks like Duffy will be gone for awhile, pulled hammy by the looks of things. Didn't cover himself in glory again with a poor tackle on Lamont for their 2nd try.

    4 tries conceded again tonight, all again from poor mistakes. Will we ever learn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outlaw View Post
    Was poor enough stuff. Jack Carty played well though and looks a fine prospect.
    Pack did ok. Expected more from them to be honest.

    It was a poor game overall and Glasgow look like they will struggle badly. We're on a road to nowhere at present. And the injuries will make it another long long season
    Arrah, gimme a break. We're four games in to a 28 game season. This is the same Warrior side that carved up Ospreys in Swansea last week, liberally laced with full Internationals against basically a bunch of kids in our backline. The time for self flagillation is not even remotely near...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea_point View Post
    Arrah, gimme a break. We're four games in to a 28 game season. This is the same Warrior side that carved up Ospreys in Swansea last week, liberally laced with full Internationals against basically a bunch of kids in our backline. The time for self flagillation is not even remotely near...
    We have no obvious gameplan at present. You'd have to be worried at the defence. We're only 4 games in and our tries conceded ratio is very poor.

    Jack Carty looks far more talented then either Nikora or Jarvis. Our young players arent in the league of Leinster's or Munster's bar a few notables like Leader, Leyden and one or two others so its not as if we are building a side around outstanding youngsters at the moment.

    Thought Mc Keon was decent tonight as well. Tadhg Leader must be close to a start as well. We've nothing to offer thus far in try creativity
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    Whatever about the result, the clash of shirts tonight was ridiculous. At times I thought teammates were tackling each other ffs. A total cock up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outlaw View Post
    We have no obvious gameplan at present. You'd have to be worried at the defence. We're only 4 games in and our tries conceded ratio is very poor.

    Jack Carty looks far more talented then either Nikora or Jarvis. Our young players arent in the league of Leinster's or Munster's bar a few notables like Leader, Leyden and one or two others so its not as if we are building a side around outstanding youngsters at the moment.

    Thought Mc Keon was decent tonight as well. Tadhg Leader must be close to a start as well. We've nothing to offer thus far in try creativity
    The defence was shocking again as you have pointed out a few times recently. Lack of commitment v evident for both their tries.

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    Whatever about the result, the clash of shirts tonight was ridiculous. At times I thought teammates were tackling each other ffs. A total cock up.
    The really mad thing was that glasgow changed their jerseys at half time, which looked even more like connacht ones, that connacht jersey will die pretty soon methinks
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    The defence was shocking again as you have pointed out a few times recently. Lack of commitment v evident for both their tries.
    Would ya stop, seriously. It was a scratch backline made up Duffy apart of our Kids. It was the same Glasgow side that thumped Ospreys last weekend. If had been even close to a regular team or our best 23 out then I might consider having a moan. With injury & IRFU restrictions we haven't come anywhere near doing that.

    The guys on here doing the moaning have been at it since game one, they have their knives drawn for Elwood regardless of the circumstances. Instead of bitching they should appreciate that Elwood gave the kids a chance to impress, but realistically as a unit they need three or four games together to gel.

    As for Carty being better than Jarvis or Nikora, far too early to say but on the basis of last night that would be no. He looked panicked in possession and lacked power and direction in his kicking.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea_point View Post
    Would ya stop, seriously. It was a scratch backline made up Duffy apart of our Kids. It was the same Glasgow side that thumped Ospreys last weekend. If had been even close to a regular team or our best 23 out then I might consider having a moan. With injury & IRFU restrictions we haven't come anywhere near doing that.

    The guys on here doing the moaning have been at it since game one, they have their knives drawn for Elwood regardless of the circumstances. Instead of bitching they should appreciate that Elwood gave the kids a chance to impress, but realistically as a unit they need three or four games together to gel.

    As for Carty being better than Jarvis or Nikora, far too early to say but on the basis of last night that would be no. He looked panicked in possession and lacked power and direction in his kicking.....
    Jarvis has offered little since he's signed. I'd play either Carty or Leader at 10 ahead of him. He could probably do a job at 15 till Duffy resumes fitness. Carty still created a try neither Nikora or Jarvis would have in my view.

    We had an experienced backline against Llanelli last week and the second half ranks as a very poor display. So its not a once off- its now a trend.

    People are commenting on what they see. Its nothing to do with knives but I cant see any structure as to what we are trying to do when we get in the opposition 22. Once we move it wide from the point of contact we invariably get turned over.

    We now have a decent outfit on paper that should be approaching mid-table in the Rabo. Its been a very disappointing start to the season. Its not all to do with injuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    The defence was shocking again as you have pointed out a few times recently. Lack of commitment v evident for both their tries.
    Noticed connacht guys going for high ball and actually turning their backs at the last minute rather than make a serious effort to catch it. That's not giving 100% - 2 tries were gifted because of it. it must be heartbreaking for the more commited players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea_point View Post
    Would ya stop, seriously. It was a scratch backline made up Duffy apart of our Kids. It was the same Glasgow side that thumped Ospreys last weekend. If had been even close to a regular team or our best 23 out then I might consider having a moan. With injury & IRFU restrictions we haven't come anywhere near doing that.

    The guys on here doing the moaning have been at it since game one, they have their knives drawn for Elwood regardless of the circumstances. Instead of bitching they should appreciate that Elwood gave the kids a chance to impress, but realistically as a unit they need three or four games together to gel.

    As for Carty being better than Jarvis or Nikora, far too early to say but on the basis of last night that would be no. He looked panicked in possession and lacked power and direction in his kicking.....
    I'd love to see Elwood doing well, and Connacht. And I fully accept that it was a scratch back line, but the minimum requirement of any player, at any level, is commitment in the tackle. And I'm sorry, but I don't think that was evident for both tries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcork View Post
    Noticed connacht guys going for high ball and actually turning their backs at the last minute rather than make a serious effort to catch it. That's not giving 100% - 2 tries were gifted because of it. it must be heartbreaking for the more commited players.
    Right I see now, it's just a wind up.

    Thanks for clearing that one up McC.... :thumbup:

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    Have only seen snippets and highlights of Connachts opening few matches but wondering what posters made of Mata Fifitas start to the season? Watched a lot of him with Sligo (at a lower level I accept) and never understood why he hadnt got picked up. Massive power and pace only 23 and holds an Irish passport, surely a no brainer? Think he could do very well if given a few games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaderunner2 View Post
    Have only seen snippets and highlights of Connachts opening few matches but wondering what posters made of Mata Fifitas start to the season? Watched a lot of him with Sligo (at a lower level I accept) and never understood why he hadnt got picked up. Massive power and pace only 23 and holds an Irish passport, surely a no brainer? Think he could do very well if given a few games.
    Needs to add more to his game, offloading and distribution seem limited and trucking it up will only worry a defence for so long...

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    He has plenty more to his game than just bosh seapoint, i hope he gets a chance to show it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaderunner2 View Post
    He has plenty more to his game than just bosh seapoint, i hope he gets a chance to show it.
    Like to hope so, but he's a converted backrow though and weaknesses at this level will be more easily exposed that at J1 & AIL3...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaderunner2 View Post
    He has plenty more to his game than just bosh seapoint, i hope he gets a chance to show it.
    do you really consider him to be irish?

    who's the White captaining connacht tonight? he's not the same as the leinster prop, White, is he?


    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    I'd love to see Elwood doing well, and Connacht. And I fully accept that it was a scratch back line, but the minimum requirement of any player, at any level, is commitment in the tackle. And I'm sorry, but I don't think that was evident for both tries
    does t ohalloran tackle much? I saw a poor attempt he made on the late nevin spence.. went in a bit high. A lot of this about in top level irish rugby, mind, and I don't find it very 'professional'.
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    I don't have a good feeling about this game for Connacht
    keep it tight lads
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    Soft try
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    first peno was leinster sealing off and off his feet joc did foul after though. result 3 points to LEINSTER. 2nd decision parks only grounded the ball and wasnt in posession? how can you ground the ball in your own 22 and not be in posession? wrong call result leinster attack instead of connacht posession 40m up the field. 3rd non decision... fitzgibbon misses forward pass on leinster attack. 4th decision fitzgibbon SEES SWIFT ROLLING OVER AND GROUNDING THE BALL result goes upstairs. no try. reffing one team blatantly. whats the point of this fixture? good try for mcsharry. 3 point peno in reply for leinster toh apparently ahead of the kick.no replay
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    omg. sealing off the ball with connacht about to score. turning it off, garbage
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    Ffs woeful defending. What is with all the soft tries we are giving away this season :banghead:
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    Second try for the Westies. Leinster cut open on the wing and Vainikolo dots it down.

    DP converts 14-6 to Connaught. Leinster looking shaky.
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    Surely Connacht can't blow this one?

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    Connaught waltz through the Leinster cover again! Dan Park kicks ahead for the runner and the bounce fools Kearney. The Westie runner can't capitalize and Leinster end up with Macken in the bin.

    There's a worrying softness in the Leinster midfield in this game so far. You'd imagine this will improve with Sexton, D'Arcy and BOD back in harness but for this game Conn could make hay.
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    Lads wtf are you at. Blatant forward pass from TOHalloran to Parks at the start of that move mind.
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