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    If they were good Jackie, Ulster, like Leinster Last Week, may have lost. They were not allowed to be good. You could give some credit for that to Ulster, which would be a little more gracious if not entirely accurate.
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    A lot of Connacht fans blaming Clanger who is always poor and just performed at his usual level.

    Connacht played to limit the loosing margin. Never came to make a game of it.

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    If some of the Connacht Fans are correct and this Fixture has a predetermined Result then you could forgive Connacht for not bothering to get on the Bus in Galway nevermind Playing for a Losing Bonus Point Jackie. I happen to believe it was reffed dreadfully and I cannot think of any other Club Team that would not have lost by Halftime in those circumstances.

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    I think that's a little harsh Jackie. Ulster were undoubtedly the better of the two sides, the three biggest differences between them being the physicality of the two packs, Ulster's dominance in the lineout and the ability of your backs to vary the play a little more and run better attacking lines (Luke Marshall's try being a great example). But while the outcome of the game was never in doubt for me, as a neutral observer I didn't think Connacht were there to make up the numbers - there were some decent efforts at breaking the gainline by the likes of Na'oupu, O'Halloran et al. I do think that Clancy refereed Connacht more severely than Ulster, with standout moments for me being the Swift penalty, the different approaches he took to early engages in the scrum and the lack of a YC for Marshall. Had the officiating been more even-handed, I still don't think it would have enabled Connacht to win the game, but they might have been able to take a losing BP away with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar Moon View Post
    If some of the Connacht Fans are correct and this Fixture has a predetermined Result then you could forgive Connacht for not bothering to get on the Bus in Galway nevermind Playing for a Losing Bonus Point Jackie. I happen to believe it was reffed dreadfully and I cannot think of any other Club Team that would not have lost by Halftime in those circumstances.
    Honestly, you think its a conspiracy to keep the little men at the bottom? I doubt it and if they had the attitude you suggest then it's a pathetic way to behave by a professional outfit.

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    the thing is if connacht finish above either of the other 3 provinces then they are going into the HEC to the detriment of either munster ulster or leinster. its almost unthinkable
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    Quote Originally Posted by munsterforever View Post
    the thing is if connacht finish above either of the other 3 provinces then they are going into the HEC to the detriment of either munster ulster or leinster. its almost unthinkable
    you're dead right. fair play for stating exactly what the position is.

    On another note a replacement needs to be found for Elwood ASAP. Just no way we can continue with the uncertainty
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    I didnt say it was a conspiracy Jackie. The Officiating at Key Connacht League Games and particularly this one is generally unacceptable and has consistently been so.

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    It's the same for all of us, especially away from home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Lynch View Post
    Kieran Hartigan's documentary on Connacht's 2011-2012 season airs on TG4 this Wednesday coming 10/10/2012:

    From the backrooms of Irish Rugby to competing against the cream of European Rugby in the face of overwhelming odds!

    We bring you The West's Awake an exclusive fly on the wall documentary which tells the story of Connacht Rugby's inaugural Heineken Cup journey to the 2011/2012 season. Join us on Wednesday 10.10.12 for The West's Awake - Rugbaí Chonnacht


    The West's Awake - Rugbaí Chonnacht Dé Céadaoin ag 09.30pm ar TG4
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    Taz-Where did you get that information as I have seen nowhere that he(Penney) was ruled out?
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    Being a bit harsh there JB. Clancy was as poor as I have ever seen him, the only surprise was he wasn't giving both barrels to us. I still remember him yellow carding TJ Anderson for 'not releasing the ball' having made a break deep into the Leinster '22 a couple of years ago, beggars belief how he has got as far as he has.

    A couple of key decisions definitely went against Connacht, probably not enough to have made a difference to the result but teams deserve a level playing field from officials. Interestingly if Clancy hadn't been so one-eyed and refereed the match with a little more impartiality it might have shook Ulster from their slumber. I don't personally like the idea of going into the HEC having nilled the opposition without having really played well.

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    Great Review by Brendan Fanning of 'The West's Awake'

    Here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Brown View Post
    Honestly, you think its a conspiracy to keep the little men at the bottom? I doubt it
    If there's no conspiracy/plan to 'keep the little men at the bottom', then explain the IRFU's policy of giving Connacht less financial support than they give the other 3 provinces.
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    How do people think Elwood me across in the documentary? Did anyone else think he seemed a little out of his depth?
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    19-10 win to Connacht. Fairly brutal stuff watching it on the web. But our first in the HEC. About the only positive.
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    any word from the A's in Newport

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    any word from the A's in Newport
    Newport 18 Connacht 14

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    Connacht Highlights on TG4 now
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    Re: Connacht 2012-2013

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    any word from the A's in Newport
    Newport 18 Connacht 14
    Bonus point loss away by a scratch side against a Welsh Premiership side. That's a decent start...

    As for Seniors, Zebre was a no win match. Got the four points in the bag, so on to Quins at home...

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    Quote Originally Posted by John123 View Post
    How do people think Elwood me across in the documentary? Did anyone else think he seemed a little out of his depth?

    I reckon that if the words f**k and f**king were banned, he'd immediately become both speechless and unemployable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John123 View Post
    How do people think Elwood me across in the documentary? Did anyone else think he seemed a little out of his depth?
    No, certainly not any more than some of our previous employees. Primary difference is he actually really gave a **** unlike Bradley and a few of the other previous Connacht bosses.

    We may not be about to win silverware under Eric but we're light years ahead of where we were on and off the pitch under Bradley the spoofer (what was the score in Edinburgh against Sarries this weekend?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea_point View Post
    Bonus point loss away by a scratch side against a Welsh Premiership side. That's a decent start...

    As for Seniors, Zebre was a no win match. Got the four points in the bag, so on to Quins at home...

    Its the lack of tries we scored against Zebre that concerns me.

    If we had consistent form we could beat Biarritz at home based on what I watched last night.
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    I think ye have more than a 50/50 chance of beating Biarritz based on what I saw.... It would not surprise me one bit to see ye come second in the group.
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    I've referred to this on another thread, but Peter O'Reilly has an interesting article in today's ST advocating the appointment of Eddie Cooder to the vacant Connacht job next season. Describes it as a no-brainer. (He also refers to one member of the IRFU Committee who has it in for Cooder, but doesn't name names.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dog View Post
    I've referred to this on another thread, but Peter O'Reilly has an interesting article in today's ST advocating the appointment of Eddie Cooder to the vacant Connacht job next season. Describes it as a no-brainer. (He also refers to one member of the IRFU Committee who has it in for Cooder, but doesn't name names.)
    In our current plight it is a no brainer IMO
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    Re: Connacht 2012-2013

    Quote Originally Posted by The Outlaw View Post
    In our current plight it is a no brainer IMO
    Current plight my hole....

    You want to kill Connacht Rugby, send in Cooder....

    Anyone thinking that he will move us forward is absolutely delusional.
    Not only will he not progress us, any subsequent coach will also be put off by having to clear up the carnage he'll leave behind him.

    Sean Diffley was saying the same sh*te in the Indo the other day. And if that fossil Diffley is advocating Cooder you know for definite it's a wrong un..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea_point View Post
    Current plight my hole....

    You want to kill Connacht Rugby, send in Cooder....

    Anyone thinking that he will move us forward is absolutely delusional.
    Not only will he not progress us, any subsequent coach will also be put off by having to clear up the carnage he'll leave behind him.

    Sean Diffley was saying the same sh*te in the Indo the other day. And if that fossil Diffley is advocating Cooder you know for definite it's a wrong un..
    How is it delusional? He's done the gig before and did fine. Beggars cant be choosers.
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    hes an inarticulate thicko outlaw, hes a nepotist, technically inept and a crap man manager. best suited for the Dáil
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outlaw View Post
    How is it delusional? He's done the gig before and did fine. Beggars cant be choosers.
    We're beggars are we? Since when? We may in the past have allowed IRFU lackies to be foistered upon us but with the PGB in place and more money coming in via IRFU funding, Sponsorship and ticket sales we're in a much better place than we were when "Nephew Of" was given the gig....

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