one venue

[the_dazz]

By that logic, have the training facility in Cork. It's no big deal. Have the matches in Limerick. A bus trip up the day before won't kill them.

I for some bizzare reason have some bit of faith in the Munster Branch (God knows why, not because I told him though, down with that sort of thing) and think they won't make all us Cork people annyoyed, upset and angry and will actually make the training centre in Cork, with the matches being played in TP. The only reasonable reasons I have for this are: the developments in MP and also because Laulala and Downey are based in Cork, which would make no sense if the whole shop was being moved to Limerick!

[5eight]

I for some bizzare reason have some bit of faith in the Munster Branch (God knows why, not because I told him though, down with that sort of thing) and think they won't make all us Cork people annyoyed, upset and angry and will actually make the training centre in Cork, with the matches being played in TP. The only reasonable reasons I have for this are: the developments in MP and also because Laulala and Downey are based in Cork, which would make no sense if the whole shop was being moved to Limerick!

Why would Cork people be annoyed, upset and angry if the training centre is not in Cork?

How many people go to see the players train every day / week / month?

[taz]

Why would Cork people be annoyed, upset and angry if the training centre is not in Cork?

How many people go to see the players train every day / week / month?

Point does every single day they are training to make sure they are in Cork when they say they are. Thomond78 then takes over to see where they do their shopping afterwards.It's been working boys,so don't knock it.

[JoeyFantastic]

I for some bizzare reason have some bit of faith in the Munster Branch (God knows why, not because I told him though, down with that sort of thing) and think they won't make all us Cork people annyoyed, upset and angry and will actually make the training centre in Cork, with the matches being played in TP. The only reasonable reasons I have for this are: the developments in MP and also because Laulala and Downey are based in Cork, which would make no sense if the whole shop was being moved to Limerick!

Most of the players are Limerick based though it's pretty even. It'll be impressive, though not surprising, if Munster overlook some of the best facilities in the Britain and Ireland as a sop to Con.

Limerick
SeanHenry
MikeSherry
DamienVarley
BJBotha
AlanCotter
MarcusHoran
DavidKilcoyne
Wiandu Preez
DaveFoley
PaulO'Connell
DonnachaRyan
TommyO'Donnell
BarryO'Mahoney
NiallRonan
PatrickButler 15/26


Sean Dougall?
CJ Stander?


Corkbased
StephenArcher
ChristyCondon
JohnRyan
BillyHolland
IanNagle
DonnchaO'Callaghan
DaveO'Callaghan
PeterO’Mahony
JamesCoughlan 9/26


ConorMurray
CathalSheridan
JJHanrahan
FelixJones
IanKeatley
KeithEarls
JohneMurphy
LukeO'Dea 8/20


PeterStringer
DuncanWilliams
ScottDeasy
RonanO'Gara
DannyBarnes
IvanDineen
DougHowlett
SimonZebo
DenisHurley
SeanScanlon 10/20


James Downey?
CaseyLaulala?

[deadlyBuzz]

Ah good ol' Munster.
Doing things a bit arsewards.
1 - Announce plans to move to a single training facility to reduce travel times for players and improve benefits.
2 - Locate all newly signed players to Cork (Laulala, Downey, Dougal)
3 - Upgrade your offices and training suites in Limerick.

[MunsterLux]

Why would Cork people be annoyed, upset and angry if the training centre is not in Cork?

How many people go to see the players train every day / week / month?

I'm from Cork, but not living there anymore. It's nice when you're living abroad to be able to associate with a club that you share the same roots with. That might sound a bit narrow minded but I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks this way This is all starting to turn Game of Thrones!

[the_dazz]

Why would Cork people be annoyed, upset and angry if the training centre is not in Cork?

How many people go to see the players train every day / week / month?

Slight exaggeration! But being honest I wouldn't like to see everything going on in Limerick, Munster is a provence not a county. This is the first year Leinster have banged on about the '12 county army' - most likely a marketing ploy to move away from the D4ness of it all. As it happens I do pop out to have a look at training most weeks because I can't always get to games.

[the_dazz]

Most of the players are Limerick based though it's pretty even. It'll be impressive, though not surprising, if Munster overlook some of the best facilities in the Britain and Ireland as a sop to Con.

Limerick
SeanHenry
MikeSherry
DamienVarley
BJBotha
AlanCotter
MarcusHoran
DavidKilcoyne
Wiandu Preez
DaveFoley
PaulO'Connell
DonnachaRyan
TommyO'Donnell
BarryO'Mahoney
NiallRonan
PatrickButler 15/26


Sean Dougall?
CJ Stander?


Corkbased
StephenArcher
ChristyCondon
JohnRyan
BillyHolland
IanNagle
DonnchaO'Callaghan
DaveO'Callaghan
PeterO’Mahony
JamesCoughlan 9/26


ConorMurray
CathalSheridan
JJHanrahan
FelixJones
IanKeatley
KeithEarls
JohneMurphy
LukeO'Dea 8/20


PeterStringer
DuncanWilliams
ScottDeasy
RonanO'Gara
DannyBarnes
IvanDineen
DougHowlett
SimonZebo
DenisHurley
SeanScanlon 10/20


James Downey?
CaseyLaulala?

Downey and Casey are in Cork, someone there mentioned Dougall is also, and Donncha Ryan lives in Cork with Billy Holland, but ya it is even, which makes sense as we aint a one county provence.

[fitzy73]

You better go an enjoy the last few in Cork then Dazz.

[5eight]

I never said the centre is / was / should be in Limerick, I asked why Cork people would be annoyed, angry and upset if it is not in Cork.

Munsterlux, as to feeling associated with a club that you share roots with what about Cork Con, Dolphin, Sundays Well, Highfield etc, do they not count?

As has been stated Munster is a province, do you not share roots with your fellow Munster men or do they have to be Corkonians to havd that bond?

[taz]

[Dumptruck]

Move it to Ballybunion.

[JoeyFantastic]

The only determining factor should be the quality of the facilities. There is nothing in Cork approaching what UL offers and if that's overlooked, it's being overlooked for the wrong reasons.

That being said, if UCC or CIT do get their act together Munster should keep the option open of moving. It has to be what's best for the team and if Cork can eventually offer better facilities then so be it, the few fans who go to watch training are not a factor. For the coming season UL makes most sense, it can be revisited when the Cork facilities come online.

[5eight]

Couldn't Lowry build something in RearCross?

[the_dazz]

As do I.. did I dream about a different thread with about 10 pages on the same thing?

[fitzy73]

Move it to Ballybunion.

I'd be all for that. Not far to FitzGerald stadium for field training either.

[taz]

As do I.. did I dream about a different thread with about 10 pages on the same thing?

[Hugh Jardon]

Move it to Ballybunion.

I know of a good site down there, simple finders fee and i'll put in the word

[BiggusDiccus]

Munster rugby are currently moving from their offices in the ground floor of the UL Arena into the 3rd floor area formally used by Ger Hartmann.

Where is Hartman gone?

[Hugh Jardon]

Where is Hartman gone?

Abroad afaik

[busby]

The only determining factor should be the quality of the facilities. There is nothing in Cork approaching what UL offers and if that's overlooked, it's being overlooked for the wrong reasons.

That's being put out as fact by a few posters over the last few months despite being complete nonsense. It may have been true a few years ago, but not these days.

[JoeyFantastic]

That's being put out as fact by a few posters over the last few months despite being complete nonsense. It may have been true a few years ago, but not these days.

Have you seen the recent upgrades to UL's facilities?

[Cpt_Munster]

That's being put out as fact by a few posters over the last few months despite being complete nonsense. It may have been true a few years ago, but not these days.

I've been in around the gym and facilities in UL with a CIT student over the last few days and by his own admission, the sports facilities in CIT don't come close to matching those available in UL. All reason points to a single training facility being based in UL, but reason means nothing to some sections of support.

[overthehillprop]

when you actually think about it you wonder if anyone is in charge and actually has a plan or is this back of a fag packet stuff.

We have two bases and are looking to move to one base - actually makes sense
We signed a 4 year contract with CIT 12 months ago - hopefully we have a get out clause
Someone has sanctioned a move between floors in UL - unless this is part of the move to one base or the move to one base is years away what is the point of this move and why incur unnecessary costs.

[deadlyBuzz]

Here's an idea... What if the plan to have one centre simply encompasses one training base per season? Cork next season, Limerick the season after.
That way the whole province is still involved and all the team is training in the one location for the year.
I know it's a crap idea, half the team are travelling all season etc. but it would satisfy most of the arguments above, so I guess the lesson is... Be careful what you wish for!

[John Cooper Clarke]

Setting a side the Limerick vs. Cork merit arguments for a moment I can only think of 2 main benefits for a single training venue.

1/. The squad trains together daily.

2/. Travelling time is minimised.

For these reasons the annually alternating training venue idea won't work, and nor will the notion of busing the squad for a couple of hours a couple of times a week. The same reasons (and financial ones on top) are why a Mallow or Charleville half way house base won't work either.

[blackwarrior]

The IRFU have an interest in this: the Irish squad take training sessions in Limerick each season. So presumably these will go to the new venue. Would be great for Cork if they got it; a bit of a blow for Limerick to lose them.

Maybe Cork gets the Munster training base; Limerick keeps its occasional Irish session.

[Duffman]

Where is Hartman gone?

did he not recently announce an expansion??

[Captain Average]

Here's an idea... What if the plan to have one centre simply encompasses one training base per season? Cork next season, Limerick the season after.
That way the whole province is still involved and all the team is training in the one location for the year.

Are there only two counties in Munster now? When did that happen?

Here's a mad idea, that sensible people have already suggested. How about we train, as one team, in the best available facilities, and constantly review all options available to us.

Anyone who wants us split, or training in sub par facilities, simply so they can see the lads shopping, or running a few drills down the road from their house, is a bit mental.

[MrsMcGahan]

Alternating bases every season is unrealistic.
I'll be surprised if the single base is not Limerick.