Irish people in Oz a cause of National embarrassment?

[busby]

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/05/08/...iour-in-perth/

Ronan Murphy writes:


My friend living and playing some ball in Perth received this email from his local GAA club:


"Hello fellow Finbarrians


The following message is not only for your perusal, but also one which you can pass on to all your fellow Irish friends here in Perth.


The WA police are extremely unhappy and appalled by the antisocial behaviour which is taking place all too often on the streets and in the pubs across Perth and its suburbs, especially in the Northbridge area [above]. Even Rental Agencies are not as willing to rent properties to Irish people here in Perth, as they are getting destroyed during parties, and being left in terrible conditions once vacated.


We have been advised, that over the next few weeks, the Perth Police will be, at random going around to all of the GAA Clubs and talking to club members, advising them of same. They want to get the message across to all Irish in Perth that what has been going on is just not acceptable, and if it continues there will be consequences.


Police will be adopting a Zero tolerance policy for any antisocial behaviour. If individuals don’t abide by the law, and take heed of move on notices, their visas WILL firstly be investigated, before court action, meaning that deportation would be the final conclusion. This is the last thing anyone of us or our fellow Irish counterparts here in Perth want.


This a very serious matter, and I hope that you and your friends will now be aware of the consequences should occurrences with the Police occur. Not something we are encouraging that is for sure.


Please spread the work to your fellow Irish, as this is affecting all of our reputations here not only the people who are causing the trouble.


Many Thanks for reading the above.


Regards


Linda H


President
St. Finbarrs GFC"


As someone looking to head away myself over the next year, i'm purposely staying away from Australia because most of the people i see going out there seem to just be over on the piss, whereas I'm hoping to make a proper move to further my career. Also, kind of knew the Irish were building this reputation over there and didn't want to be painted the same. Anyone over there at the moment able to give a perspective on this??

[Boo-boo]

it is always the foreigners that get the blame. Now where did those job stealing Poles go?

[lactose intolerant]

By God, it took a few years but it looks like Aussiedub has left his mark on the place after all.....

[Balla Boy]

They'd want to see their compatriots in The Church of a Sunday afternoon. Or The Walkabout in Shepherds Bush any day of the week. Young people living away from home with disposable income is bound to get messy, I fear, regardless of nationality.

[Piggybui]

Is that not racial profiling?

[NotreDameRFC]

Sure haven’t we been exporting our delinquents and drunks to Australia for 150years.....How come it’s a problem now?.....

[roflcopter]

The Irish kids who've gone to Australia the past few years are fast becoming a real embarrassment to our identity as a people. Partys over here during the recession so they hightailed off to someplace to continue the boom time fun, some attitude of working hard to right the wrongs with our fine homeland. I've seen genuine emigrants arrive here over the years, living a lean existence and full of sorrow at leaving their home country and with a promise of a brighter future one day returning. Not our people with the party lifestyle and no intention of ever going back. When the going gets tough the Irish getting emigrating.

[Point]

it is always the foreigners that get the blame. Now where did those job stealing Poles go?

The wife's niece is in Perth and confirmed this messing is going on. She decided to stay out from the centre, rather than be associated with the Ballymun-in-the-sun knackerish Irish. She reckons it's a lot of the same crowd that you'd have seen getting twisted in Santa Ponza and elsewhere. They're earning a lot of money at the moment but blowing it like they did during the Celtic Tiger years.

[busby]

They'd want to see their compatriots in The Church of a Sunday afternoon. Or The Walkabout in Shepherds Bush any day of the week. Young people living away from home with disposable income is bound to get messy, I fear, regardless of nationality.

Perhaps, but coming from a small country spot i see the calibre of lads going over, and it's not exactly the brightest and best.

[Point]

The Irish kids who've gone to Australia the past few years are fast becoming a real embarrassment to our identity as a people. Partys over here during the recession so they hightailed off to someplace to continue the boom time fun, some attitude of working hard to right the wrongs with our fine homeland. I've seen genuine emigrants arrive here over the years, living a lean existence and full of sorrow at leaving their home country and with a promise of a brighter future one day returning. Not our people with the party lifestyle and no intention of ever going back. When the going gets tough the Irish getting emigrating.

Snap.

[munstershane]

I have 3 cousins out in Brisbane.

Thankfully they dont seem to have gone wild. One of them is actually getting married over there.
Saying that they're in the late 20's to early 30's age catergory so hopefully should have a bit of cop on at this stage.

[lactose intolerant]

They're probably not getting up to anything more than we're doing back here in fairness!! They work for the money-let them spend it however they like!! They break the law, you punish the lawbreakers!! Don't stigmatise everybody!! The thought that everybody went there for work is naive at best anyway

[Buceph]

My uncle emigrated there almost 25 years ago with his young family. Although he had an Australian wife. Heard similar tales of young Irish scumbags messing the place up. Although he said the people joining his local gaa club were guys who wanted to settle, but were.missing home. He maintained the clubs were a valuable resource but the guys tearing rooland up had no interest in building community.

[Arthur Guinness]

Why the softly softly approach from the cops and are they sending these messages to clubs of other nationalities? Why not just pick up a few messers,regardless of nationality,put them through the system and let them take the consequences including deportation? Can we deport anti-social types?

[munstershane]

Can we deport anti-social types?

I would have thought so.
Not 100% on that though.

[mr chips]

It's our culture.

[JN.Allezdax.com]

"Irish people in Oz a cause of national embarrassment?"


Isn't that the case since 1788?..

[The Word Is Born]

They've some cheek. Look at the damage Wayen causes everywhere he goes!

[fitzy73]

They've some cheek. Look at the damage Wayen causes everywhere he goes!

Wayen has taken the soup, is no longer an Aussie.

[Duffman]

The Irish kids who've gone to Australia the past few years are fast becoming a real embarrassment to our identity as a people. Partys over here during the recession so they hightailed off to someplace to continue the boom time fun, some attitude of working hard to right the wrongs with our fine homeland. I've seen genuine emigrants arrive here over the years, living a lean existence and full of sorrow at leaving their home country and with a promise of a brighter future one day returning. Not our people with the party lifestyle and no intention of ever going back. When the going gets tough the Irish getting emigrating.

The wife's niece is in Perth and confirmed this messing is going on. She decided to stay out from the centre, rather than be associated with the Ballymun-in-the-sun knackerish Irish. She reckons it's a lot of the same crowd that you'd have seen getting twisted in Santa Ponza and elsewhere. They're earning a lot of money at the moment but blowing it like they did during the Celtic Tiger years.

Yah all these Irish kids who were in college and school during the celtic tiger are off reliving their affluent celtic tiger days..lmfao at both of ye, I’ve said it here before and will always believe it, the over 35 generation created this mess and are happily leaving it for the next generation to suffer and clean it up, Personally I was 22 when the boom ended in 2007 so I luckily avoided the debt black hole created by the older generation. Thankfully this allowed me to head off for a couple of years and party my ass off across Oz, this doesnt mean I have the wrong attitude, it just means I was to young to have bought into the celtic tiger,just like the vast majority of the 12 month working visa type in Oz

[cornerboy]

The grown ups have been an embarrassment at home for the last ten years. Let the kids live before they get hauled into the sh1t that the rest of us have been handed.

[The Last Stand]

The grown ups have been an embarrassment at home for the last ten years. Let the kids live before they get hauled into the sh1t that the rest of us have been handed.

Let a group of gob****es piss off taxpayers in another country? How are they in the sh1t like the rest of us. They don't have negative equity, they can travel the world, and they are given a free education here.

The oz police should not bother with softly softly policing. Arrest and charge those louts and give their pictures to the Star.

[cornerboy]

Let a group of gob****es piss off taxpayers in another country? How are they in the sh1t like the rest of us. They don't have negative equity, they can travel the world, and they are given a free education here.

The oz police should not bother with softly softly policing. Arrest and charge those louts and give their pictures to the Star.

How are they in the sh1t, (and I didnt say they are currently in the sh1t)........because when they come back here, as the bulk of them will, any who get jobs will pay for the excesses of my generation.

[fitzy73]

The cops in WA have always been "zero tolerance". I nearly got nicked there about 20 years ago for jaywalking.

They model themselves on Yankee police, and we all know what beacons of reasonableness they are ...

[The Last Stand]

Yah all these Irish kids who were in college and school during the celtic tiger are off reliving their affluent celtic tiger days..lmfao at both of ye, I’ve said it here before and will always believe it, the over 35 generation created this mess and are happily leaving it for the next generation to suffer and clean it up, Personally I was 22 when the boom ended in 2007 so I luckily avoided the debt black hole created by the older generation. Thankfully this allowed me to head off for a couple of years and party my ass off across Oz, this doesnt mean I have the wrong attitude, it just means I was to young to have bought into the celtic tiger,just like the vast majority of the 12 month working visa type in Oz

It is primarily those in the 35 - 50 generation who did not have the benefit of years out in Oz etc who were too busy working. That same generation paid for their own education and through taxes paid for yours. That same generation have negative equity and are just putting their heads down trying to make ends meet and paying taxes so there is a social welfare system, pensions and a health system.

So we now evidently have a group of people in their 20's who are not saddled by personal debt, no doubt benefitted growing up from their parents hard work and have a chip on their shoulder that they are left with debt caused by over 35's. What planet are you on?

[The Last Stand]

How are they in the sh1t, (and I didnt say they are currently in the sh1t)........because when they come back here, as the bulk of them will, any who get jobs will pay for the excesses of my generation.

The excesses of your generation? What generation are you in?

[NotreDameRFC]

Young ...loads of money.... 3 weeks up in mines or barrow island...one week in Perth out of four .... do the maths...



WA police should deal with them on one by one basis instead of generalising ....

[cornerboy]

The excesses of your generation? What generation are you in?

A generation older than my 24yr old son who is in Perth!!!!!!

[The Last Stand]

A generation older than my 24yr old son who is in Perth!!!!!!

I don't accept and think it is fair to say that a generation had excesses. Yes money was cheap, yes we had the ssia etc. but not everyone had excesses and that same generation has been left with high levels of personal debt and is paying taxes now for govt debt. If the cuts and tax increases did not happen, then it would be reasonable to say that we are putting debt onto the next generation.

My advice to your son would be to work hard and save as much as he can while enjoying the experience. That's what previous generations did when they went to the states.

My advice to the Perth police is to arrest the trouble makers and not generalise.

[The Word Is Born]

So you refuse to stereotype the 35-50 age bracket but are more than happy to stereotype the 20-35 age bracket based upon a bit of sensationalism?