Anyone going to 20s game against Connacht in Annacotty tomorrow?
Would be interesting enough to see what kind of team we have playing in this
Anyone going to 20s game against Connacht in Annacotty tomorrow?
Would be interesting enough to see what kind of team we have playing in this
the munster schools A side are playing a west munster development side out in abbeyfeale thurs evening in a friendly
tonight at about half 5 and theye a game in Limerick on saturday which i presume is against the same english side that the youths, schools are playing on saturdayOriginally Posted by greenback
think your right??
Great to see our new head coach down in rockwell talking to some of our future pro's
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10675.php
A schools were much too strong for west dev squad tonight winning by 7/8 tries. A schools would have been better off playing the munster youths. A schools next game is saturday against Millfield school
Looking at the pics on the link below there has been a few changes to some of the squads. John Madigan, Cronan Gleeson are now in 20s squad
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10676.php
I was at that U20s in Annacotty. Three halves were played , of c. 20 minutes each, I don't think anybody on the Munster side was injured. Munster scored three tries and one conversion against Connacht two tries. Connacht played in some black and white traiing shirt with no numbers, Munster were in that Black strip with the dayglo shoulder patches which actually looks pretty smart. There were no team sheets available. Connacht got stronger through the sessions.
Having said that Munster camped in the Connacht 22 for the first of the three sessions, and were penalised four times with the ball turned over, so there were some good chances to deliver scores. They looked pretty good and fit overall. Munster may have committed a few too many men to the breakdown , but sure what would I know?, and I know they were trying out combinations and positioning rather than just trying to work scores. I think the entire squad had a run out for at least half the full time played each.
Last edited by Cantillon; 16th-August-2012 at 21:26. Reason: Misplaced , was meant to be in response to Ormond Lad query above
There was several games played this afternoon in annacotty today.
Munster u18 schools played english school side, Millfield School 1sts.
Millfield won this game on a scoreline of something like 19-5 but that scoreline doesnt say much for the game where Munster barely got out of their 22 in the match and couldnt cope physically with the massive english side.
IMO Munster A schools if given the same attention wrt training, coaching etc would beat the u18 schools
In game 2 Connachts u18 schools side played the munster A schools(side made up of players not in the top rugby playing schools in munster)
Connacht are a super super side, with some of the best offloading in the tackle ive ever seen at u18/19 level.
Connacht won this game about 35-5
In game 3 the munster A schools played Millfield Schools 2nds in the first half and this finished 5-5. for the 2nd half the connacht u18 schools took over from the munster A schools side and they went on to win 17-0.
I left then but Millfields 3rds were playing a north munster u16/17 youths side
Connacht are a super side at u18 level and their games against Leinsters u18 clubs and schools sides(Connacht basically have the same squad for both the youths and schools interpros) should be top class affairs
A great days rugby only hampered by the fact that while all the english school sides, the connacht 18s and munster 18s schools were all in official jerseys, socks, shorts and had warm up gear etc the munster a schools looked like a joke beside them with the kids wearing their own gear and were not even given the chance to wear munster jerseys for their game
Last edited by ormond lad; 18th-August-2012 at 23:40.
Munster Youths lost 37-0 to Cardiff Blues over in Wales today
thanks for the updates OL, who did Connacht play, I was looking for team details on their site but its a bit non descript in the detail
sorry but i didnt know or recognise any of the connacht lads. all i can say about them is that they are a very good side with great skills and will be very tough to beat in the interpros. their ability to recognise and exploit space in attack and how they defended was top class.
I believe 2 of the Shannon/Saints team played. Cronan Gleeson was finally called in and Niall Fitzgerald lined out with Connacht.
And in English the above translates as.....?
Was at the game on saturday. munster schools had a weakened side out (players in the extended squad) and brought on some 1st teamers with 15 to go and the game changed completely. They are putting out a stronger side against french opposition on tuesday in cashel so should get a better idea of where there at then. very badly reffed game the breakdown was a free for all and dangerous at times. Im not sure what your looking to achieve ol by leaving Comments like " if munster A schools would beat munster schools if given the same attention". Whos to say if they would or would not? sounds like another one of your anti schools comments which you leave at every oppurtunity as far as i can see.
The schools, youths etc are all closeted up in rockwell getting expertise coaching etc for 3 days a week. The a schools are a very good squad and if they were given the attention that the other squads get they would be incredibly good.
Im not anti schools but do think the schools system is nowhere near as good as some people think and the focus on the schools is ridiculous
Mixed results from the weeknd games yet the munster a schools game isnt mentioned which is strange
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10685
Hear, Hear .....or is it here, here. The schools system is not the solution, currently its the problem.
saw some of the A schools match v w.munster dev last week ,some incredible ball handling from the schools with a very greasy ball,why not send them all to rockwell?are they afraid they might discover someone?
20s team for game against Italy tomorrow in Musgrave has been named.
Munster XV: Conor Kearns, Darren Sweetnam, Harry McNulty, Rory Scannell, Alex Lynch, Tom Kiersey, Brian Haugh, Niall Horan, Will Foley, Brian Scott, Jamie Kind, John Madigan, Cronin Gleeson, Jack O’Donoghue, John Fitzgerald (Capt.).
Replacements: Cian O’Donnell, Darren Mulcahy, Dave Hartnett, Ross McCarthy, Darren Ryan, Ben Nugent, Shane O’Leary, Rob Jermyn, James McInerny, Darragh McNamara.
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10689.php
My sources tell me that this game is now in CIT. Might be worth a call to MP before travelling.
Trust is good; control is better. V I Lenin.
I was also at this game and totally agree with you. several lads initally named and who trained with a schools got called up by the youths and are now in rockwell. their skills were very good and with a bit more organisation etc similar to what the lads in rockwell are getting they could be incredibly good.
Munster won this 15-7
Im here to spread the word..common sense is not just for animals
Munster U20, 15, Italy 7 , 21st August, 2012 , 7.30pm KO at Musgrave Park
The match was pretty well attended with about three hundred people and a great sprinkling of kids up to 25. Munster started very well , hardly letting the Italians out of their 22 for about fifteen minutes, but not scoring and eventually settling for a penalty score for three points at 28 minutes, kicked by Brian Haugh I think, good kick straight in front of the posts but probably 38 yards out, the kind of kick that gives you the willies. I was surprised that they didn't go for the line out as I would have been confident, normally, that a team should get in from there. The Munster line out was solid and better than the Italians, and I think they had a couple of steals. The Italians were enormous, the pack looking not just 14 lbs heavier a man, but also ten years older or more each.
The report from the Evening Echo is posted below, written by Sean McCarthy.
Sean McCarthy
Munster 15
Italy 7
MUNSTER’S senior side have a reputation built over the years of beating international touring sides and last night the province’s U20s added to that reputation by taking another international scalp in a sometimes stop-start but always intense game at Musgrave Park.
Cork senior hurler Darren Sweetnam typified the not-on-my-watch attitude of the homeside in injury time when he made a last ditch tackle to stop Italian Marco Bellini short of the line.
Even if the Italians had crossed for a try and converted it would have not changed the outcome of the game as they had an eight point lead at the time.
Dolphin’s Rory Scannell and Jamie Kind both had a huge part to play in this victory also with Kind, playing in the second row instead of his usual back-row berth, put in a big display which he capped with a fine try and Scannell kicking the home team out of trouble on quite a few occasions with his big hoofing left boot.
Academy player Jack O’Donoghue was another who put in an excellent shift when it mattered most and was unlucky not to get on the scoresheet with a trademark break in the first half.
What will have pleased coach Greg Oliver though is the huge commitment his side showed in defence. Even though there were a few missed tackles the collective effort meant that Italy were going to have to fight all the way for any scores they got.
Even when the Italians brought on their big guns up front Derrick Appiah and Marco Silva, they still weren’t able to break the homeside down.
Munster led at the break by three points although it could have been all square had the Italians not left their kicking tee in the dressing rooms. Frederico Salerno had to drop kick his penalty attempt which went wide of the mark while Brian Haugh made no such mistake with his attempt from the Italian 10m line to give his side a three point cushion.
The Muster scrum had the Italians under a lot of pressure in the scrum stealing one against the head, almost stealing another and this despite some questionable put-ins by Simone Marinaro.
Both teams rang the changes at half time and Brian Nugent at scrum half certainly made a difference for Munster when he came on with faster ball and better use of the leather when he had it.
Darren Ryan was another change that made a difference on his introduction and played a key part in the build up to Kinds try five minutes into the second half.
Tom Kiersey added the extras to give a 10-point cushion and another sub Rob Jermyn who looked impressive on the left wing added a great individual try to extend the lead further.
Eddie Hogan O’Connell, who had a good game with the whistle, awarded the Italians a penalty try 15 minutes in after a great rolling maul by the Italians was illegally impeded. Salerno added the conversion but that was to be the end of the scoring for the visitors despite all their late pressure.
Scorers for Munster: Try: J Kind, R Jermyn, con: T Kiersey, pen: B Haugh.
Italy: penalty try. Con: F Salerno.
MUNSTER: C Kearns, D Sweetnam, H McNulty, R Scannell, A Lynch, T Kiersey, B Haugh, N Horan, W Foley, B Scott, J Kind, J Madigan, C Gleeson, J O’Donoghue, J Fitzgerald,(capt).
Subs used: C O’Donnell, D Mulcahy, D Hartnett, R McCarthy, D Ryan, B Nugent, S O’Leary, R Jermyn, J McInerney, D McNamara.
ITALY: A Torlai, G Di Giulio, M Bellini, G Vian, S Eid, F Salerno, S Marinaro, F Vento, A Daniele, S Traore, M Andreotti, F Ruzza, M Boccardo, M Catelan, M Mbanda Mata.
Subs used: M Silva, D Appiah, M Baruffaldi, D Trotta, V Marazzi, G Silvestri, N Speranza, S Iovenitti, S Chalonec, R Biancotti.
Referee: E Hogan-O’Connell (IRFU).
end of Evening Echo report
It was very noticeable that the Munster skill set has improved significantly in the last few weeks, and they looked tighter than against Connacht, closing out that huge gap they were leaving on the wing where a two or three man overlap had appeared a few times. The pack were set back by the Italians huge weight initially, but they got some great body positions underneath them, and shoved them up a few times, so that was a pretty good performance. They still have that problem of not killing the opposing team when they are within ten yards and five yards of the try line and with the time they have spent there in the Connacht and Italian match I would have expected more scores.
In the second half Munster began to throw the ball wider and faster, and that had a couple of results, first the substitute Rob Jermyn coming in at the 11 position , got the ball with space at the Italian 22 with nobody in front of him, but still had to step and beat three Italians on the way to the line, so the Italians showed great mobility and frankly I don't know where they came from save that the wing went in with the ball and met them coming across, and second that the Italians got more ball as it was looser and began to be dangerous with it. There were a few turnovers and dropped balls.
There is a bit of traffic out to the wings with the ball, but too many passes are having to be jumped for rather than delivered in front of the player, and there is too much bringing the ball to the man , and thereby compressing the room the ball receiver has, together with bringing the man marking him, and the man marking the ball giver , onto the ball receiver, at which time the ball stalls. However Munster will no doubt fix this as they go, and having looked at the size of the Italians perhaps they should have been made to run everywhere.
The squad all got a run, with some players going on and off a few times, like the 13 Harry McNulty and the 18, Dave Hartnett, I don't really understand that, though Dave could have been subbing blood injuries, but was on the pitch extensively.
The Musgrave Park pitch looked and according to the team, was, tremendous, described as the "best pitch in Ireland" and "better than Thomond". It looked like a billiard table and played as true, grip was excellent, and it didn't seem slippy even though it had that drying sun, and sudden rain combination during the warm up, where it can be tricky for the first half. Well done to the grounds staff, and even after the match it looked perfect. Well done Musgrave Park.
Last edited by Cantillon; 22nd-August-2012 at 10:22. Reason: No title
Schools u18s lost to Languedoc yesterday in Cashel 27-19 and as Cantillon posted above the 20s won 15-7
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10695
All the irish u18 and 19 fixtures were released today.
the u18 schools side is not competing in the FIRA-AER tournament and the irish youths are back playing in the tournament after 2 years of the irish schools competing.
The irish schools will play the same fixtures as the irish youths did last season and will play a french u18 side and an english u18 side.
The irish youths play the irish schools on december 30th
the irish schools and u19s play england in dublin on match 30th and both will then go on to play france in france on the weekend of april 5th/6th/7th
Sweetnam focus switches to rugby
By Simon Lewis
Thursday, August 23, 2012
Munster Rugby are hoping Cork senior hurler Darren Sweetnam can make as big an impact with the oval ball as he has this summer with a sliotar.
Nine days after appearing off the bench at Croke Park in Cork’sAll-Ireland SHC semi-final against Galway, the 19-year-old rising GAA star was patrolling the wing at Musgrave Park as Munster Rugby’s U20s geared up for next month’sinterprovincials with a 15-7 victory over Italy on Tuesday night.
It was Sweetnam’s first rugby outing since the spring as his focus switched to hurling with the Bandon Grammar School student and Doheny’s GAA clubman gaining plaudits as a talent to watch on Jimmy Barry Murphy’s inter-county panel. Munster would like the teenager, who has also represented Ireland at hockey at U16 level, to give rugby a shot but their U20 head coach Greig Oliver told the Irish Examiner it would be a softly softly approach.
"Darren’s in a unique situation. He’s a great hurler and he’s equally adept at rugby and hockey as well and so we’re not putting pressure on him as to whether he can make it or not.
"That was his first game for a while because of his hurling commitments and we were just trying to see how he has progressed but he’s certainly on the radar because he’s got that talent and his running ability is fantastic. Obviously he will have to make a decision one of these days and hopefully he’ll be given the chance to have a real go at (rugby). But he’s obviously good at hurling so we’ll see how it goes."
Sweetnam could feature in Monday night’s U20 friendly against a Sale Sharks academy team in Manchester and Oliver would like the wing to be available for the interpros, which begin on September 7 when Munster entertain Connacht at Musgrave Park.
"We don’t want to put any kind of pressure on him at all. We knew how important it was for him to play (hurling) this year and so he did just a few sessions with us and he didn’t take too much on.
"Tuesday night was his first game in four or five months and he did well so hopefully he’ll be available (for the Interpros). He gets on with people, he’s got the ability, he likes the ball in his hands and goes looking for it so he’s got a good appetite for the game. So we’ll see how he progresses in Sale and take it from there."
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Munster U18 Clubs Team Named For Ospreys
Game is tomorrow in CIT at 3pm
Munster U18 Clubs: Dylan Horgan (Highfield), Eathon Moloney (Nenagh), Mark Dorgan (Highfield), Kieran Duggan (Highfield), Joe While (Clonakilty), Fionn McGibney (Garryowen), Dave O’Mahony (Clonakilty), Philip Poillet (Clonakilty), Stephen Shine (Young Munster), Ben Betts (Young Munster), Darragh Power (Waterpark), Aaron Hogan (Youghal), Eamon Costelloe (Bruff), Connell Dodd (Waterpark), Idris Rqibi (Capt.) (Skibbereen). Replacements: Ronan O’Halloran (Ennis), Cian Tierney (Bruff), Eoin O’Carroll (Tralee), Brendan Quinlan (Clanwilliam), Peter Ryan (Nenagh), Eoghan Greene (Sunday’s Well), Conor O’Sullivan (Kanturk), Luke O’Leary (Sunday’s Well), Garreth Molloy (Waterpark).
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10705
Munster U19
Ulster v Munster, Saturday, 8th Sept., Ravenhill, ko 4.00pm
Munster v Leinster, Friday, 14th Sept., Garryowen FC, ko 6.30pm
U19 play-offs, Saturday, 29th Sept (details TBA)
Can anyone confirm that the Garryowen FC fixture is a definitely at this location?
Thank you.
Dont see any reason why the game would be moved so take it that the game's on in Garryowen
The u18 schools squad for game on sunday against London Irish Amatuers in London has been named http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10710
Munster U18 Schools Squad:
(Forwards) Liam O'Connor, Sean McNulty, Luke O'Halloran, Mike O'Donnell, Liam McMahon, Denis O'Connell, Frank Bradshaw Ryan, Dylan Lane, Stephen McCarthy, Morgan Carey, David St. Ledger, Ben Kilkenny, Jack Boland, Cormac Blake.
(Backs) Ben Riley, Ed Barry, Gearoid Lyons, Conor Flanagan, Steve McMahon, Edward O'Keefe, Thomas Quinlan, Robbie Deegan, JJ O'Neill, Greg O'Shea, Aidan Moynihan, Stephen Fitzgerald
Last edited by ormond lad; 24th-August-2012 at 16:34.
Ulster Schools beat Languedoc today and the 20's had a comfortable 45-0 win over the exiles.
Munster won this game 17-5
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