19s is mainly made up of last years youths/schools panels with some of the better performers from the schools cup this year also getting added.Originally Posted by bannerman
Bannerman, think ye have a few involved in the A schools side. They're very strong this year and its very early yet some of ye're lads will get their chance yet
Well done cronan, good to see some nenagh representation but thats a complete joke on shannon saints having feck all in the squad.
Wish I was as confident as you, OL. Shannon Saints ran with a panel of 24 players this year and only Cronan is involved. Would be fairly close to the coach there and informs me that none are involved, apart from Cronan, in any Munster set up currently from that panel that won the All Ireland. A few lads from the schools there all right.
Shannon/Saints have a number 8 by the name of McCallum playing for them who is simpley magnificent. Small clip of him on the snippet on the IRFU tv site scoring first try and gathering restart after half way. Malone couldn't handle him. I haven't seen a back row like him in years. Unbelievably aggresive and lightening quick. And the Shannon/Saints partnership in the centre of McNamara and Tobin would grace any team. McNamara was playing schools with Ard Scoil last year and they nearly destroyed him playing him in the back row among other places. Corbett on the wing was outstanding too. He's the guy with the 2 All Ireland medals-Bucks last year and the Shams this year. Great achievement there.
Kalani Moore ?! I know his family from the surfing connections. I think he turns 18 this year .. so not sure how that fits into the rugby age grades, I see him at junior surf comps on a regular basis. I know a few other junior (or former junior) surfers that would have played schools rugby but refused any playing involvement in rugby outside of that as they were too worried about injury disrupting their burgeoning surfing careers.
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Im confident as things are beginning to change slightly in munster. Some of ye're players will get a shot yet this summer while a few did last year between youths, A schools and 19s(if you include Cronan) and should get a look at at some stage over the summer
The centre Tobin was on the A schools last year as was the sub niall fitzgerald
Hunt the outhalf/full back had been on the youths last year
Moore is a 94 so will play for the munster 19s in september if he is to be playing for a munster side this year
Munster Rugby U19 Squad Conor Glynn (Ardscoil Ris)
Aiden Slattery (PBC)
Rory Burke (CBC)
Charlie Slowey (CBC)
Ben Burns (Castletroy College)
Liam Cronin (Castletroy College)
John Madigan (Charleville RFC/Garryowen FC)
Darragh Moloney (CBC)
Patrick Kearns (Ardscoil Ris)
Diarmuid Dee (Crescent College Comprehensive)
Jack Dineen (Crescent College Comprehensive)
Sonny Dwyer (Rockwell College)
Tom Ryan (Glenstal Abbey)
Oisin O’ Mara (Kilfeacle & District RFC)
Ryan Foley (CBC)
Aaron Atkinson (Garryowen FC)
Shane Airey (St. Munchin’s College)
David Johnston (Rockwell College)
Ned Hodson (Midelton College)
Dan Goggin (St. Munchin’s College)
Greg Barry (Crescent College Comprehensive)
Cormac O’ Donnell (St. Munchin’s College)
Adrian Enright (Garryowen FC)
JJ McDonnell (Castletroy College)
Ronan McKenna (Ardscoil Ris)
Munster Rugby U19 Reserve Panel
Adam Walsh (Waterpark RFC)
James Maxwell (Rockwell College)
Padraig Keating (Clonmel RFC)
Lee Nicholas (St. Munchin’s College)
Niall O’ Neill (Waterpark RFC)
Aidan Butler (Rockwell College)
Killian O’ Keeffe (Crosshaven RFC)
Cillian Ansboro (Youghal RFC)
Mark Healy (Kanturk RFC)
Tom O’ Hare (Waterpark RFC)
Schools clearly using their pull etc, had thought the clubs would have more players
the squad will spend five weeks in Rockwell College, participating in the inaugural Munster Rugby Summer Talent Camp. That should be interesting. Anyone know anymore about it
only 4 out of 26 are youths. 7 of 10 in the reserve panel are youths
I only count 25 in the squad not 26?
Last edited by Equays; 9th-May-2012 at 16:55.
I would be guessing it is a 14 forwards, 12 backs squad and hoping that Seamus Keating from Dungarvan would be the 26th, was part of Ireland youths, can play 10,12 and wing, so would be a good utility back to have on a squad. That would make it 5 youths, not great representation (3 clubs represented then, Dungarvan, Kilfeacle,Garryowen(although all imports)), pity the small number,
but hopefully the youths may have more scope to improve than school representatives!
dont know about who the 26th squad member is. if it is keating in the squad hopefully they pick him in his best position, 10, and leave him there. Play the best wingers on the wing, dont move a guy from 10, who is a good 10 but not the out and out speedster you want on the wing
There is few youths in the squad but as has been mentioned in this thread already there is huge numbers of youths players in the A schools and that squad is very very strong this year
Last edited by ormond lad; 14th-May-2012 at 12:04.
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10494.php
Good to see academy staff, development officers are looking to specifics, in this case the scrum. Hopefully they have/will do a clinic on backplay/attacking in the near future
The selection process has been conducted over the past number of months, with players from clubs and schools taking part in various training camps throughout the Province. Following two recent challenge matches against UCC and UL Bohemians the squad of the 26 was selected.The U20 squad will attend the inaugural talent camp along with the Munster U19, U18 Clubs and U18 Schools squads for a total of five weeks after which a finalised squad will be selected for the 2012/13 Interprovincial Series.
Munster Rugby U20 Squad
Niall Horan (Crescent Comprehensive College)
Brian Scott (UCC)
David Hartnett (PBC)
Gavin Ryan (St. Munchin’s College)
Cian O’ Donnell (UCC)
Max Abbott (PBC)
Will Foley (PBC)
Ultan Dillane (Tralee RFC)
Sean McCarthy (Rockwell College)
David O’ Connell (UCC/Old Christians RFC)
Jamie Kind (Dolphin RFC)
John Fitzgerald (PBC)
Darren Ryan (St. Munchin’s College)
Jack O’ Donoghue (Waterpark RFC) Brian Haugh (Young Munster RFC)
Charlie O’ Regan (CBC)
Tom Kiersey (Waterpark RFC)
Darren Sweetnam (Bandon Grammar School)
Rory Scannell (PBC)
James McInerney (Garryowen FC)
Harry McNulty (Dublin University)
Alex Lynch (Rockwell College)
Seamus Glynn (PBC)
Conor Kearns (Dublin University)
Darragh McNamara (UCC)
Rob Jermyn (Rockwell College)
Munster U20 Management Team
Head Coach - Greig Oliver
Assistant Coaches - Steve Ford & Brendan O’Connor
Strength & Conditioning - Joe McGinley
Physiotherapist - Damien Mordan
Doctor - Dr Adrian Murphy
Video Analyst - Paul O’Brien
Kit Manager - Alan Hickey
Manager - Graham Burns
No Ryan Murphy?that seems strange considering he got an academy contract. Obviously mistake
Is Brendan O Connor the assistant coach the Cashel player?
how do PBC get 6 players in the 26?
Presumably because they're good enough. Does it matter where they're from?
It just seems to be a bit of politics, theyve nearly a 1/4 of the squad.
Like how do Shannon saints, u19 all ireland champs have nobody in the squad
Unfortunately with Munster it does matter where they're from. I would say that the selection process is an absolute joke and Munster going forward will continue to be in trouble as long as this system is in place. They consistently miss out on talent because of laziness/ineptitude/ politics/favouritism.
Even Cronan Gleeson not included. Ridiculous.
It does seem strange that none of the Shannon Saints team is on it.
i hear some fellas are coming over to connacht from the 18s series just gone anyone for munster
Sorry dont understand what you're trying to say
Is there any news of any new players coming over to munster 19s from the U18s. There are players going to connacht from the exiles.
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Munster U18 Clubs Squad
Brendan Quinlan (Clanwilliam FC)
Philip Poillet (Clonakilty RFC)
Brendan Keogh (Bruff RFC)
Ben Betts (Young Munster RFC)
Eoghan Greene (Sunday’s Well RFC)
Eamon Costello (Bruff RFC)
Darragh Power (Waterpark RFC)
Conor O’ Sullivan (Kanturk RFC)
Aaron Hogan (Youghal RFC)
Alex McAulliffe (Bruff RFC)
Tom O’ Dwyer (Bruff RFC)
Idris Raibi (Skibbereen RFC)
Luke O’ Leary (Sunday’s Well RFC)
Connell Dodd (Waterpark RFC)
Dave O’ Mahoney (Clonakilty RFC)
Ronan O’ Halloran (Ennis RFC)
Dylan Horgan (Highfield RFC)
Fionn McGibney (Garryowen FC)
Cian Tierney (Bruff RFC)
Mark Dorgan (Highfield RFC)
Kieran Duggan (Highfield RFC)
Chris O’ Sullivan (Iveragh Eagles RFC)
Shane Doona (Bruff RFC)
Joe White (Clonakilty RFC)
Eoin O’ Carroll (Tralee RFC)
Sean Cremin (Kanturk RFC)
Munster U18 Clubs Reserve Panel
Philip O’ Connell (Bruff RFC)
Hugh Lane (Newcastle West RFC)
Paddy Butler (Highfield RFC)
Peter Ryan (Nenagh Ormond RFC)
Stephen Shine (Young Munster RFC)
Sean O’ Leary (Midleton RFC)
John Richardson (Clanwilliam FC)
Gareth Molloy (Waterpark RFC)
Michael Mullally (Tralee RFC)
Jack O’ Donnell (Dungarvan RFC)
Padraic Russell (Thurles RFC)
Provisional dates for the Interprovincial Series 2012/2013
Sept 1 – v Exiles (H)
Sept 23 – v Connacht (H)
Sept 20 – v Ulster (A)
Oct 6 - v Leinster (H)
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10505.php
east: 7
north: 12
south: 14
west: 3
Last edited by ormond lad; 26th-May-2012 at 02:11.
Out with shoulder injury according to dolphin website
http://dolphinrfc.com/rugby/jamie-ki...ter-u20-squad/
Any ideas as to venues for all the interpros and dates games will be played for the A schools, 18s,19s,20s?
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10603.php
Piece on talent squads in rockwell
Anyone know of any warm ups the sides will play?
Last edited by ormond lad; 10th-July-2012 at 17:13.
The A schools are training in Nenagh tomorrow evening. Think they could be moving their trainings around to a few places around the province. it was said in the club tonight that they trained in Bruff last week and will be in another venue next week
Last edited by ormond lad; 10th-July-2012 at 21:34.
Ultan O Callaghan talking about the benefits of training in rockwell
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/matchdaytv/
Former Munster player Denis Leamy lends a hand with the Under 20 training session today at Rockwell College
© Munster Rugby
Graham Burns - Munster Squads Are Well Prepared
12 July 2012, 3:28 pm
By The Editor
We met with Graham Burns, Munster U20 Representative Team Manager, at Rockwell College this week as he gave an overview of the 'Munster Rugby Talent Camps' which are currently taking place.
Following last season’s disappointing Under 20 interprovincial campaign Burns said this intense training programme has been designed to enhance Munster’s underage player development while also assisting the progression of home grown talented players to the highest levels.“We’re here at Rockwell because after the last couple of years we had a good long look at our approach, particularly in pre season and have decided to take a far more professional, progressive approach to our preparations".
“This involves bringing the guys together and spending a lot more time with players and coaches which willessentially give us a far greater preparation for the interpros coming in September in comparison to previous years. It will also benefit the players within the squad who are knocking on the door of academy and sub-academy places”.
Following Ireland’s recent success at the Junior World Cup Burns said management teams at representative levels now have a responsibility to give players the best development opportunities possible.
“ It’s all part of their pathway and its all part of their development to give them as good a chance as possible. You saw what Munster players JJ Hanrahan, James Rael, Niall Scannell andShane Buckley did over in South Africa at the Junior World Cup and talking to some of the guys in our squad, they feel that they also want to achieve that kind of success”.
Following a vigorous selection process over the past ten months the Munster Under 20 players attending the talent camp are currently training for the interprovincial series against their Leinster, Connacht and Ulster counterparts.
“We’ve our squad of 26 here which has been selected and whittled down from an original squad of around 45 through a series of trial games and fitness sessions. We’ve also looked at players during schools cups and various other competitions, so the competition for places has certainly been fierce and anyone who has got into the final 26 has done really well to do that”.
“We also have a reserve squad of ten players and can bring guys in as and when we might pick up injuries or loss of form. It is very much an open door policy, if a player is in form he stays, if he’s not then we have to review the situation.
Giving an account of the player's day to day schedule at Rockwell College Burns said “We’re here for three days from Tuesday through to Thursday each week. There is a combination of on pitch skills sessions which will gradually build up to include contact over the next couple of weeks. We also have off the pitch sessions where we are spending a lot of time working on strength and conditioning programmes”.
“We are working on player specific modules where the hookers will all get together, the tens will get together etc. and they will work on their individual skills. We will have outside assistance from some of the pro coaches within Munster giving us a full programme of rugby lined up for both on and off the field”.
“In addition to that we have introduced the education side of things into the programme, for example nutrition is a big part of what we do so we are educating guys in a collective group on how to prepare themselves properly off the field”.
Asked about the objectives of this Munster initiative Burns said ”Many people have done a lot of work behind the scenes to get the ‘Talent Camp’ where it is today and I’ve no doubt that with the effort and the planning that has gone in the results, and not just the results on the scoresheet, but getting Munster players back in the green jerseys in the numbers of players that we should have and we deserve to have will be achieved. That’s the ultimate aim and player development is also what this is all about”.
With over 100 participants at the Munster Talent Camps Graham Burns identifies the advantages in bringing all Munster representative teams together to take part within the same work schedules.
“We’re using this camp as an opportunity to get all the squads together. We have two Under 18 squads (clubs and schools) and an Under 19 squad here so they become familiar with the approach that’s required to play at Under 20 level which is effectively the highest underage level in the country. Players also see positive cultural aspects of forming relationships between groups which up to now has really operated on a fairly isolated basis, so I’d see this as a real positive feature included in this programme”.
“Rockwell has been a really good opportunity to get everyone together in their squads working as a collective. The Under 19s can train with the Under 20’s, that’s going to bring them on, and the 20’s are going to gain from some good match contact so this is the first ‘real’ step we’re taking and we’re really looking forward to it”.
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Both Ulster and Leinster u19s are travelling to play Northamptons academy side. Anyone know if we've anything arranged for any of our rep sides?
http://www.northamptonsaints.co.uk/r...xtures_all.php
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10615.php
Crazy that an exiles player has been brought over on trial for the 5 weeks when none of the Shannon Saints u19 all ireland winning squad were deemed good enough to make the u19 or u20 squad
Good to see that players are getting talks and help wrt nutrition, psychology etc
And why is it crazy. He is obviously talented if he wasnt well then the coaches would not have offered the opportunity.
Perhaps you can guide the coaches in spotting talent! Oh and by the way the player has represented Ireland!
He is obv talented and i never said that the kid(who i have never seen play before) was not but i think its crazy that Munster will be playing an exile when they have not looked at ONE kid from a side that won an all ireland cup last year and in nearly every game they played against Munster sides(and sides from other provinces) last season they won fairly comprehensively.
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