Age Grade Interpros 2012/2013

[ormond lad]

Ulster 20s beat Munster 18-9 so Ulster win the interpro title

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10849

[ormond lad]

Munster youths lost to Connacht 14-6 today

[ormond lad]

Match report from youths game against connacht http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10857
A schools team for the first of 2 games against Leinster has been named.
Tomorrows game is in musgrave with the game tomorrow week on in donnybrook
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10864

[ormond lad]

Munster A schools lost to Leinster in Musgrave today 22-13.
Munster were better their Leinster outwide but lost out upfront but Munster were missing 1 or 2 of their stronger forwards.
Munster didnt play the conditions well enough and if they're a bit smarter next wednesday in donnybrook and the missing players are back Munster may overturn the 9 point deficit and win the joe weafer trophy
Game was excellant standard and hopefully next weeks game is even better.
Match report is below. one mistake in article. the other winger got the try not carey
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10873.php

[ormond lad]

Munster 19s play the Leinster 19s white in the 3rd/4th place playoff in Ashbourne at 2.30pm
Leinster 19s Blues play Connacht at 4.30pm for 1st/2nd and the Exiles play Ulster at 12.30pm for 5th/6th

[ormond lad]

Munster 19s play the Leinster 19s white in the 3rd/4th place playoff in Ashbourne at 2.30pm
Leinster 19s Blues play Connacht at 4.30pm for 1st/2nd and the Exiles play Ulster at 12.30pm for 5th/6th

Munster side to play Leinster
Cormac O’Donnell (St. Munchin’s College); Ned Hodson (Midleton College), Dan Goggin (Vice-captain)(St. Munchin’s College), Greg Barry (Crescent College Comprehensive); Cillian Ansboro (Youghal) David Johnston (Rockwell College), Aaron Aitkinson (Garryowen FC); Charlie Slowey (CBC), Ben Burns (Castletroy College), Rory Burke (CBC); Lee Nicholas (St. Munchin’s College), Patrick Kearns (Ard Scoil Ris); Diarmuid Dee (Crescent College Comprehensive), Oisin O’Mara (Kilfeacle), Sonny Dwyer (Capt.) (Rockwell College). Replacements: Liam Cronin (Castletroy College), Aidan Slattery (PBC), Conor Glynn (Ard Scoil Ris), Darragh Moloney (CBC), Tom Ryan (Glenstal Abbey), Killian O’Keeffe (Crosshaven), Shane Airey (St. Munchin’s College), Seamus Keating (Dungarvan)
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10877

[ormond lad]

Youths team to play Ulster tomorrow in Ravenhill
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10882
Munster XV: Dylan Horgan (Highfield); Eoin O’Carroll (Tralee), Kieran Duggan (Highfield RFC), Mark Dorgan (Highfield), Joe White (Clonakilty); Fionn McGibney (Garryowen), Ronan O’Halloran (Ennis); Brendan Quinlan (Clanwilliam, Stephen Shine (Young Munster), Ben Betts (Young Munster); Aaron Hogan (Youghal), Conor O’Sullivan (Kanturk); Darragh Power (Waterpark), Connell Dodd (Waterpark), Idris Rqibi (Capt.) (Skibbereen). Replacements: Eoghan Greene (Sunday's Well), Philip Poillot (Clonakilty), Tobi Ademakin (Garryowen), Luke O'Leary (Sunday's Well), Alex McCauliffe (Bruff), Gareth Molloy (Waterpark), Eathon Moloney (Nenagh Ormond), Cian Tierney (Bruff).

Looks like youths management have looked at the A schools squad as toby ademakin is on the bench. He played with the A schools wednesday

[Luimneach]

I was out in Ashbourne at the U19 game Munster lost 23 -19. Conceding two bad tries from intercepts our handling was poor with multiple knock on's
Positives were the scrum , general forward play, Scored three great tries, individual players allot of talent in the team. Lineout was a lottery .

[Forever young]

I have been following this thread with interest all summer. A sincere thank you to all who have been keeping us up to date on the latest interpro news. Is it true that Connaught won the U19 with a few players who were not seen as good enough by the Munster management. Not even good enough for the standby list if memory serves me right.

[ormond lad]

I have been following this thread with interest all summer. A sincere thank you to all who have been keeping us up to date on the latest interpro news. Is it true that Connacht won the U19 with a few players who were not seen as good enough by the Munster management. Not even good enough for the standby list if memory serves me right.

Im not sure if they were not seen as good enough by munster. They got their shot with connacht and munster will have seen them play interpros this season so they may get involved with munster at 20s level next season.
The youths beat Ulster 34-12
Going to rockwell hasnt changed much in terms of results in the interpros.
20s interpros: 1/3
19s interpros: 1/3
18s schools: 1/3
18s youths: 1/3 with 1 to play
A schools: 1/2 with 1 to play

[inside info]

taught Youths had only played 2 matches?

[ormond lad]

thought Youths had only played 2 matches?

included the game against the exiles 18s as an interpro

[Forever young]

What were the corresponding results from last year?

[ormond lad]

What were the corresponding results from last year?

We won 0/3 at 20s, had 4 wins 1draw 1loss at 19s(2 munster teams last year), u18 schools won 2/3, A schools won 3/3, youths won 2/3

[Forever young]

Only 1 u19 team this year. Move to Rockwell for Summer. Did we make progress?

[ormond lad]

Only 1 u19 team this year. Move to Rockwell for Summer. Did we make progress?

IMO no we didnt make progress. We havent beaten Leinster in an interpro at any age group this season though we have 2 more chances this week and as Leinster are the benchmark to not have beaten them yet is v disapointting.
Dont think the move to rockwell has improved things but things like looking at improving coaching in schools/clubs etc needs to be looked at so players are better before they get to provincial level
A full analysis cant really be made until the irish squads are picked for their training camps next month and can be compared - both to number of munster players in irish squads in previous years and to the numbers from other provinces to make this seasons irish squads

[dropkick]

The Rockwell camp is more geared towards long term player development IMO. The players will have learned alot from it and now have a greater knowledge of whats expected of them. I think we'll have to wait until next year to see results because if the players need time to catch up with their Leinster, Ulster and Connacht counterparts in terms of conditioning and fitness etc.

If its working you'll have to ask the individual players, wait until next years interpros and wait to see how many Munster players make the 2013/14 Ireland U20 squad.

[ormond lad]

A schools beat Leinster in donnybrook today 20-18 but Leinster won on aggregate
Munster went 18-3 down early in 2nd half after Leinster scored a try that should have been disallowed due to crossing.
Munster went up and dominated rest of game. Munsters James Reeves scored a try off a lineout maul to go 18-8 down and then munster recieved kick off the backs threw 3 15metre passes and got another try.
Great game and it was Munsters first win against Leinster in any age grade interpro this season

[Corcíoch]

I know we 've gone over a lot of this before but the sooner the Munster branch realise that we are not Leinster, the better. Doing a little exercise on the Leinster schools system and Munster schools will show that basing our model of youth rugby almost solely on the schools is a recipe for disaster especially when we don't see these guys progressing to AIL due to this ridiculous system and also the academy system.
We attempt to mimic Leinster who have 16 + teams playing Senior cup rugby albeit 2 or 3 who are making up numbers-we have effectively 8 if you include Glenstal. Of these 8, the only ones that consistently are competitive are Rockwell, Pres,Christians, Munchins and Crescent. Ard Scoil blow hot and cold (will be good this year) and Castletroy are on a downward spiral. Glenstal are improving and are more and more competitive but still aren't there yet. So effectively you have 5 consistent senior cup teams.
Now when you also consider that at least 15 of the 16 Leinster teams are fee paying private schools with bags of resources being poured in, and 3 of the 5 Munster teams are fee paying, how in all honesty can we ever compete with a focus just on schools. .Yes clubs brought some talent through but what are we missing with this approach. Some very talented club players have made it-Jack O'D, Cronan Gleeson , Madigan but the is miniscule compared to what should be coming through. The proof of the pudding was in the opening game at the Aviva where Munster/Connacht were hosed by Leinster /Ulster by over 60 points with Academy/u20 teams. For God's sake, when are they going to sit up and smell what they've beenn stirring. Connacht have caught up with us -some of this down to the fact that they have no schools cup tying and players can play for who they please. Even worse with the poaching that is going on now in Munster schools, they are making the pool of players playing senior cup even smaller. Certain schools are decimating others and clubs also only to fill their benches. As I've said before, in the branch and in the coaching set up, people are asleep at the wheel. We are progressively worsening(can you say that) and the people in charge think all is fine.

I know we sent a lot of lads of to Rockwell for the summer but looking at 18s yesterday, they were never going to catch up with Leinster just in the summer. these guys in Leinster have been doing what we did in Rockwell for almost 2 years. Our schools don't have the numbers or resources to compete with whats going on in Dublin, but if we tap the club system and truely work with it. Then We might have some chance of closing the gap.

Rant Over!!

Are the Munster Branch not trying to lessen the schools power and thus the focus on them with their new rules?? Rules that the schools are challenging in the Courts

[Thomond78]

Are the Munster Branch not trying to lessen the schools power and thus the focus on them with their new rules?? Rules that the schools are challenging in the Courts

Really? Any more information on this?

[McCloud]

Really? Any more information on this?

Think it's to do with the branch trying to bring in a rule that would prevent a player who changes school from playing in junior or senior in the first season of the move. Pretty sure I posted an article on it. just cannot remember what thread.

[Thomond78]

Did a quick search on Courts.ie. The Munster Branch are not showing up as defendants or respondents to any High Court action in the last two years. If it were in the Circuit, it'd already be listed, set down and in the callover lists (which it's not, certainly not in the Cork Circuit). If it's even being talked about, it seems to have gone no further.

[Munster_Fan]

So with the Munster a schools wraped up for another year , what will become of the players ? There is some talented youngsters in the squad with a great future ahead of them if they get the chance , jack o Donnell , Andrew Carey and Kerry Desmond to name a few . How did the youth side get on today against Leinster ?

[ormond lad]

So with the Munster a schools wraped up for another year , what will become of the players ? There is some talented youngsters in the squad with a great future ahead of them if they get the chance , jack o Donnell , Andrew Carey and Kerry Desmond to name a few . How did the youth side get on today against Leinster ?

Youths game wasnt today. its tomorrow
There was some very talented players playing for munster.several of whom should have got a look at for the youths/19s though some did. prop toby adamakin who is in the youths squad for the leinster game tomorrow had been in the A schools squad until a
Some will play munster youths next september, some may/will play 19s/20s. The rest will play with their club/school at u17/u19/senior schools level.
Some of the players have been playing at 1sts/2nds/3rds level in their clubs already.

[ormond lad]

Munster youths lost to Leinster 10-7

[Malley]

Squads named for U19, U18 schools and U18 clubs http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/11903.php Saracens scrum-half Jack Cullen an interesting pick in the U19s