Stringer's wishes would only be secondary to Munsters. We hold the contract after all.Originally Posted by Speedee
Presumably we'd only loan him out again if:
1/. We weren't unduly concerned about injury/rotational issues here. With maybe a get out early if concerns surfaced?
2/. There are financial benefits to Munster. You can have him but you must pay him.
3/. It suited us to have him match fit.
Maybe the clause about not playing HEC against Munster was put in at String's insistence? Indeed maybe the reason he has moved on is because he wouldn't be willing to play in possibly Saracens biggest game of the season and he was not happy to compromise the club? Good luck to him at Newcastle, a brave decision to go to a club in such trouble, I would expect nothing less from such a brave man!
There's never been any doubt about the man's bravery.
I cant wait to see Stringer 9's reaction!!
\"Only Pienaar, Botha and Ferris would be in contention for a place on our first 15. That\'s a fact.\" - Tickettout\'s take on Ulster April 2011.
This could be a new business venture for Munster. Keep all our old players international players like Strings on Munster contracts in the knowledge that there will be a queue a mile long for their services come Nov. next season.
Strings gets to play but he will still hae his tax rebate when he does retire, as he will be retiring from Munster. And Munster get to make a packet on loaning him out to clubs like Sarries.
Brilliant plan.
She knows already,she is on the net downloading as many episodes of Geordie Shore as she can find .
Last edited by taz; 23rd-February-2012 at 14:23.
Otaga Daily Times 2/5/2012
Taz-Where did you get that information as I have seen nowhere that he(Penney) was ruled out?
Editor - The writer stands by the Penney information.
Otaga Daily Times 3/5/2012
Editor-- This article originally said Rob Penney had missed out on the Munster coaching job. That information was incorrect.
Standard insert in most loan deals sir. yet another poor effort from you.. losing it so you are.
Just to clear this up and I need someone in the know on this. If you are loaned out from your rugby team ,is it true ,the maximum you can go out on loan for is 3-4 months? But it is possible to go to a few clubs under the same terms during a season?
It would explain why Stringer could not stay longer at Saracens.
Otaga Daily Times 2/5/2012
Taz-Where did you get that information as I have seen nowhere that he(Penney) was ruled out?
Editor - The writer stands by the Penney information.
Otaga Daily Times 3/5/2012
Editor-- This article originally said Rob Penney had missed out on the Munster coaching job. That information was incorrect.
Think Borlase has been loaned out to Connacht for the rest of the season? That would suggest there is not a time restriction.
4 Feb 2011 - Gilmore on the General Election
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Connachts season finishes on the 5th of May,so Borlase's loan is actually less than 3 months as well?
Otaga Daily Times 2/5/2012
Taz-Where did you get that information as I have seen nowhere that he(Penney) was ruled out?
Editor - The writer stands by the Penney information.
Otaga Daily Times 3/5/2012
Editor-- This article originally said Rob Penney had missed out on the Munster coaching job. That information was incorrect.
I loaned you STG£20 in Northampton, and that was years ago!!!
That in banking terms is a long term loan and I'm good for it(I think!)I loaned you STG£20 in Northampton, and that was years ago!!!
Otaga Daily Times 2/5/2012
Taz-Where did you get that information as I have seen nowhere that he(Penney) was ruled out?
Editor - The writer stands by the Penney information.
Otaga Daily Times 3/5/2012
Editor-- This article originally said Rob Penney had missed out on the Munster coaching job. That information was incorrect.
What has santa to do with it?
Mumha Abu
Good to be appreciated outside the province!
Stay cool .None of us are in the brain trust,right!
Will somebody find Stringer9 and break the news gently to her before she comes ranting in here telling everyone they've a small cock.
"That's what's difficult. You know that O'Connell is going to be the one that will jump for the ball but you still don't manage to steal it. It's kind of annoying
"I talked about it with the Toulouse players, my final in 2006 and theirs in 2008 against Munster. I was marking Paul O'Connell and they were man-marking him too. We knew he was going to jump. But I remember I was in really good condition, with a good lift, but every time I just missed it."
Harinordoquy
Too much of a risk to keep him at Saracens when there is a real chance we could meet.
On the other hand I would have LOVED to see him with Saracens against Leinster (if it got to that point) and seeing him do something like an ankle tap/a cheeky steel etc, something very old school Stringer like, that would cost Leinster the game.
That would be too sweet.
The Maul is Back!! LONG LIVE THE MAUL!!
Stringer is bigger even than his own immense shadow. Pound for pound, he is the best tackler in the world. If you put him into bag of cats he\'d come out without a scratch. He was hit very late for Murphy\'s try. And when he got up, as we knew he would, the crowd cried his name as if he had just fixed the economy.Billy Keane-After Munster\'s famous loss to the AB\'s.
The Bull-Truly irreplaceable, a mountain of a man. 100 caps!!
interesting that Leicester had the chance to sign him first
http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.u...ail/story.html
Tigers could have signed the experienced Stringer on loan as cover but Cockerill said he had learned from a "mistake" he made last season. Stringer has since joined Saracens.
He has decided to go with Steele, who was born in Dumfries and has played in the Scotland age-group sides.
"With Ben away, Micky banned and Sam not fit for a few weeks, Scott Steele will continue to deputise for us behind James Grindal," said Cockerill.
"We could have had Peter Stringer but we decided against it because we had two league games and then two LV= Cup games which Peter could not have played in.
"Then we would get Ben Youngs back from England and Young and Harrison should both be available around that time too.
"Last year we brought in Jason Spice to cover for injuries at scrum-half instead of using Sam Harrison and, in hindsight, that could have been a mistake.
"So this time, we have Grindal and we have chosen to go with Scott as our reserve scrum-half.
"From experience, maybe last year I should have given Sam more game-time instead of getting someone else in.
"It is time to trust Grinders. He has a lot of experience and did a good job at Saracens. If Scott has to play, he has been really good for us.
Interesting also that a tigers fan said they actually tried to sign him after the 2002 HCF.
Thats far from interesting Point. Its old news in fact, that was covered everywhere at the time.
David Wallace, James Coughlan - Heroes, Jonathan Davies
Pathetic.
"Playing against ROG, your big game plan is to try and pressure him but he’d dump it off to Wally and next thing you’re five metres behind the gain line because he was an absolute freak." Rory Best, Irish Examiner, May 2012
That you believe Point or that Point posted nonsense?
David Wallace, James Coughlan - Heroes, Jonathan Davies
I agree with Thomond 78 - Williams is good enough. He rarely gets to play with first choice pack or rog.
Murray has been living a charmed life and I thought he was a big factor in losing to Wales in world cup.
Lost behind a beaten pack. Williams showed his quality agains Australia last year when in my eyes he was mom
ahead of nagle. Also, away to London Irish he changed re game and had a big hand in us getting the bonus point
He got injured last year at the wrong time. O Leary - who I played with was never a rugby player, he is an athlete.
He has none of the basics. Stringer offers nothing and kicks away turnover ball for 12 years. His time is up.
Williams needs to be given exposure now so he can prepare for next season.
He definitely has the quality to push Murray
Highlighted two parts,hope it makes sense.
P.S Welcome to Munsterfans.
Otaga Daily Times 2/5/2012
Taz-Where did you get that information as I have seen nowhere that he(Penney) was ruled out?
Editor - The writer stands by the Penney information.
Otaga Daily Times 3/5/2012
Editor-- This article originally said Rob Penney had missed out on the Munster coaching job. That information was incorrect.
Mr Conman young Williams will be judged on his performances for Munster not as your mate. I hope your right and he does come good. So far he has been awful
David Wallace, James Coughlan - Heroes, Jonathan Davies
What a stupid commet sewn. I don't know Williams personally.
I do believe I highlighted performances in my post.
In the ulster game over Xmas the pack did him no favours.
Coughlan made a hames at the back twice.
Rare mistake by the big man but it was his fault.
Just think Williams would benefit from playing with the big boys.
Hard as a scrum half to constantly come ok for 20 mins and make your Mark.
Tomas has shown that this year
If you're good enough, you'll play.
Murray is 22, he made (pretty much) his international debut in the World Cup, he's done incredibly well to get to this point and he keeps on developing and improving, but he does make mistakes and he'll continue to make mistakes, because he's 22, he's still learning by doing, but that's how you learn. As for being a big factor to losing to Wales, I think you'll find the guilt lying at everyones feet on this occasion. Not good enough all around.
Williams is 25 years old, and if Williams is as good as you seem to think, he would have been given his chance by now. As it is, he hasn't. If he really is that much better than he has been playing he will be noticed, sooner rather than later.
A new coach coming in, so it means (presumably) a clean slate for everyone. So maybe he'll get his chance then.
I don't think TOL is anything special of a scrum half, but to say he was never a rugby player is harsh, not a typical scrum half, no, but he's a very good rugby player and did a pretty excellent job for us over the years, especially in 2008 right up until 2009 and then he was just hampered by one injury to the next.
Stringer, ya..he seemed to do something right for those 90 odd Irish caps and 200 plus Munster caps, rather than just kicking the ball away as you said.
Williams is our saviour apparently, time will tell, I wont hold my breath by we'd all loved to be proved wrong.
No he hasn't played behind our best players regularly, (might be a reason in there) but you deal with what's in front of you and you do your best with it.
But we can only judge on what we see with Munster. And what we have seen of Williams isn't exactly world class stuff.
Last edited by Stringer9; 24th-February-2012 at 01:19.
The Maul is Back!! LONG LIVE THE MAUL!!
Stringer is bigger even than his own immense shadow. Pound for pound, he is the best tackler in the world. If you put him into bag of cats he\'d come out without a scratch. He was hit very late for Murphy\'s try. And when he got up, as we knew he would, the crowd cried his name as if he had just fixed the economy.Billy Keane-After Munster\'s famous loss to the AB\'s.
The Bull-Truly irreplaceable, a mountain of a man. 100 caps!!
Surprised to see someone who believes that. From what I've seen in the past 2 years with Australia and maybe one or two other matches aside is that there's one SH who can't cut it at this level and their time should be up. It certainly isn't strings.
I'm still a bit befuddled by the whole stringer situation. How does one go from being in the matchday Ireland squads of the last six nations and a starter in Munsters crunch Heineken match against to Toulon to not even being in consideration for the world cup and behind Duncan Williams. Usually players slowly decline down a managers estimation, in this case it seems like both McGahan and Kidney made a sudden rash decision about him and that was that.
Newcastle is a crap club but this is a crap situation and I suppose its making the best of it.
Game time key for refreshed Stringer
By Simon Lewis
Thursday, August 30, 2012
Peter Stringer returns to competitive action with Munster this weekend rejuvenated by his six-month sojourn in England last season and looking forward to staking his claim to more game time in a red jersey.
After impressive turns off the bench during pre-season, 34-year-old Stringer will vie with Duncan Williams for the starting scrum-half position when Munster begin their RaboDirect Pro12 campaign against Edinburgh at Murrayfield on Saturday (8pm).
With a one-year extension to his contract announced last March, Stringer was never too far from Munster’s planning, but a few months earlier the 98-times capped Ireland scrum-half had found himself third in the pecking order of No 9s in Tony McGahan’s thinking, behind Tomás O’Leary and Conor Murray.
With limited opportunities, Stringer, 34, jumped at the chance of a loan move to Saracens, with whom he enjoyed a successful three-month spell in both the Premiership and Heineken Cup. When that ended, the Corkman was quickly snapped up for a further three months by Newcastle Falcons, where his desire for first-team action was also satisfied.
"I was gone six months and personally it was all about game time for me, really," Stringer said.
"It was the opportunity of playing somewhere else, which is something I haven’t really had over the years, but first and foremost it was about getting some time on the pitch and getting a run.
"Thankfully I played most weeks over there and as a rugby player I still have ambitions to play the game and love the game and that was what it was all about. I thoroughly enjoyed my time over there.
"Saracens had two injuries in the scrum-half position and three months was the term they were out injured. That was enough for me to get some game time and then Newcastle came looking and again it was just about getting more game time. So I took the decision to go up there and thankfully I played five or six games up there, the full 80 minutes, and again I enjoyed my time up there."
Now Stringer is looking for more of the same in his native province.
"I must say it’s good to be back," he said. "This is home and I wanted to give it another go here. I suppose you get confidence playing week in, week out and the realisation that you can still play the game at the highest level.
"I still have ambitions and goals to play at the highest level back here and now this is the place where I want to be.
"I suppose I took the decision [to go out on loan] when I wasn’t getting game time last year here, it was just about playing and I still feel the same way. I just want to be playing wherever that may be and at the highest level.
"It would have been an easy decision to stay here last year, tag along and not be playing but I still just want to play the game. I feel good about my rugby this year and I’m looking forward to getting stuck in.
"I’m coming back and it’s my concern to play as well as I can. That’s always the attitude I’ve taken in to matches, regardless of who’s coaching, and if I’m getting decent time on the pitch and playing well then it’s up to me. I see each season as a fresh start no matter where you are or what position you’re in. There’s a long break in the summer, players come back rejuvenated and with a clean slate. There’s good guys here now, a good squad ethos and players are looking for starting positions and that’s what it’s all about."
Irish Examiner
4 Feb 2011 - Gilmore on the General Election
"Frankfurts way or Labours way."
28 Feb 2012 - Gilmore on a yes vote for the fiscal treaty
"A vote for economic stability and a vote for economic recovery."
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