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    McGahan leaving for Australia

    Newstalk's Off the Ball are reporting strong rumours coming out of Munster that Tony McGahan may be leaving for some Australia role. They are hoping to have news from sources in Australia later....
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    Best of Luck to him in his new role
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    Dont blame the man given the abuse he has got on this site!

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    Just as it is about to all come together for him here with Munster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Dont blame the man given the abuse he has got on this site!
    Yeah some of ye would want to take a good look at yourselves
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    Disappointed if true. He's shown a real step up this year, we've an academy thanks to him as well.
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    Pity if true, all the more reason to win the HEC!!
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    Thought he had answered his critics (including me) this last month or so. Definite improvement in our play and young players getting a chance. My great fear is an old favourite of the IRFU is looking for a job and no one wants to employ him (for good reason). There is a chance the IRFU will try and push him on us.
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    Thats a pity. He's done a great job bringing Earls, O'Mahony, Barnes, Zebo, Sherry, and Murray through. It is possibly a bit too soon for Foley to move up to Head Coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcork View Post
    Thought he had answered his critics (including me) this last month or so. Definite improvement in our play and young players getting a chance. My great fear is an old favourite of the IRFU is looking for a job and no one wants to employ him (for good reason). There is a chance the IRFU will try and push him on us.

    Yep. Faraway managers all look great until you put them in place. McGahan has been improving slowly but surely with each season, but this year he's ramped it up big time. We've looked as good as any season under Deccie this far, 6 from 6 is a huge feat. I hope he stays, the ship has settled and we're heading in the right direction.


    I'd also have slight reservations about our executives' ability to recruit the right man should we need a McGahan replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
    Disappointed if true. He's shown a real step up this year, we've an academy thanks to him as well.
    genuine question but what exactly has McGahan done to change the academy? AFAIK the like of POM, TOD, Deasy, Archer, Murray, Nagle, Foley etc were in the academy when Deccie finished up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcork View Post
    Thought he had answered his critics (including me) this last month or so. Definite improvement in our play and young players getting a chance. My great fear is an old favourite of the IRFU is looking for a job and no one wants to employ him (for good reason). There is a chance the IRFU will try and push him on us.
    I'm fairly sure McGahan has a 2 year offer from Munster.

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    Real shame. Rebuilt the side, brought through youth, replaced legends like Hayes, Quinny, Foley and Stringer.
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    Big loss at this time if it happens. Momentum is everything, and Munster have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overthehillprop View Post
    genuine question but what exactly has McGahan done to change the academy? AFAIK the like of POM, TOD, Deasy, Archer, Murray, Nagle, Foley etc were in the academy when Deccie finished up.
    He's picked them in the senior 15 would be his biggest plus in my view. He picks the kids, and he trusts them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
    He's picked them in the senior 15 would be his biggest plus in my view. He picks the kids, and he trusts them.
    you could also say he was helped by injuries in picking the likes of POM, Zebo etc. Others like Archer was a forced situation. Also with the reduction of central contracts he was under less influence than previous coaches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Point View Post
    Newstalk's Off the Ball are reporting strong rumours coming out of Munster that Tony McGahan may be leaving for some Australia role. They are hoping to have news from sources in Australia later....
    Heard from insider, and I do not usually hear these things, that there is 'impatience' about his new contract extension negotiations and that certain people are trying to push Axel in there. Big mistake, Axel needs much, much more experience. Could be that he was stalling his extension while something was being pursued in Australia.
    Nice, decent man and much improved coach, which is inevitable after 3 or 4 years. Disagreed with his appointment to begin with and feel he did not 'get it' until this year really. Would favour him getting an extension to see if he can follow through with his recent changes. Also want him to stay to keep Dagger O'Sullivan from being head coach, as opposed to backs/attack coach.
    The $60,000 question, and which he may answer if he does go, is to what degree he had autonomy and freedom to make changes vis a vis Garrett, IRFU/DK, senior players? We cannot finally assess the McGahan era until we know that, and also who had say over transfers in and out. Did he ask for players that he did not get? Did he want to start more young academy products than he did start? Questions, questions.
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    Jesus when you think about who could be gone by August:

    McGahan

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    Plenty change ahead this summer perhaps.
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    And he'll want to be leaving with a Heineken Cup to his name.

    Fair enough for the guy. He has tried a lot. Some things worked out, others didn't. I've definitely seen an advancement in the style of game he has been coaching.and I hope it stands to him in the future.

    The biggest complement I can pay him is where Deccie was a master of getting the best out of players at a provincial level Mcgahan has a definite vision of what he wants for his rugby. I think that's a style that hasn't suited us but has taught our players an awful lot. I also think if he takes the munster experience on he will have be a successful top level (international) coach.
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    Will be interesting to see comments here in 12 months when either EOS or Bradley are training Munster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overthehillprop View Post
    genuine question but what exactly has McGahan done to change the academy? AFAIK the like of POM, TOD, Deasy, Archer, Murray, Nagle, Foley etc were in the academy when Deccie finished up.
    POM and Archer weren't, the rest would have been. Its not so much the players that got put in, its more to do with the structures. The players are easy enough to pick with most of them playing 2-3 years of senior cup and under age sides with Munster/Ireland. Still think the academy needs to go up a few more levels, to get players involved earlier and pay more attention to the clubs.

    Won't lie, despite the turnaround this season I'm still not a fan and honestly won't be sad to see him move on. Munster needs a reshuffle, realistically Garret Fitz is going nowhere but a new head coach, backs coach, scrum coach is needed, wouldn't let Foley take the reigns just yet but if its happens it happens, wouldn't complain too much.

    Good luck either way Tony, its nothing personal, seems like a nice man but I just don't think hes right for the job.

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    So who will be his replacement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outlaw View Post
    Will be interesting to see comments here in 12 months when either EOS or Bradley are training Munster.
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    Isn't a rumour I'm afraid off to Oz. Best of luck Tony. In fairness he has brought through a fair number of players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    So who will be his replacement?
    EOS, NOD or Bradley?
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    Unless Bradley has an opt out clause he's stuck for another season I think.
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    They'll go for Bradley I reckon. Foley is only cutting his teeth and hardly comes across as comensurate when interviewed but if he can get the team to play in the manner he did i wouldnt give a fiddlers fart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Dont blame the man given the abuse he has got on this site!
    Criticised him more than most and am unapologetic for it, given the nature of some performances under his tenure. I have altered my views on him as a head coach due to changed circumstances and his evolution as a coach, and not because I believe I was wrong to criticise him to begin with. He has improved his coaching and made changes in squad and that showed he was willing to learn, something to be applauded for in any person. He had the decency and class to thank our small number of Munster supporters out in Viadana last March and some of the players could have learned from him. It would look like the replacement of Fisher by Foley was a key appointment.
    The 2009 semi final, the 2010 semi final and the Amlin semi final were terrible performances for which he was responsible for along with coaching and playing squad. I salute his achievement in MLs and this year HEC. Let's not forget he inherited one of the best squads in Europe in 2008. He has not been lucky with injuries though.
    His degree of freedom or otherwise as a coach before this season is of the greatest relevance.
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