"de legend of Zebo"

[sewa]

However he will be internationally capped IMO. As will POM.

Wow you are really putting your neck on the line with these predictions

[The Outlaw]

Wow our really putting your neck on the line with these predictions

Zebo isnt a definite yet by a long shot. huge competition in the back 3. only area of the park where we actually have depth. but i'm sticking my neck out

[sewa]

You are in your arse. He was training with the extended ireland squad already

[blackwarrior]

But that yellow card yesterday is a reason why he may not make it. It was an awful stupid act of petulance IMO that can cost teams games. Needs to cut that ****e out.

Young player displays petulance so that's a reason he may not make it? Come on.

[The Outlaw]

Young player displays petulance so that's a reason he may not make it? Come on.

Why did he do it though? He's running backwards, he's offside- the ball is on halfway the ruck is formed. Treviso's backline had all the penetration of a corkscrew against a brick wall. And he does that. He's lucky Clohessy wasnt there or he'd have decked him.
Silly- he was fond of the same when playing in the AIL. Thats the sort of brainfarts that cost us games at interantional level.

[99_oK?]

Took his 2 trys yesterday when others might not have seen a score.
Tremendous potential and seems to have the attitude and instincts needed.

[blackwarrior]

Why did he do it though? .... Silly- he was fond of the same when playing in the AIL. Thats the sort of brainfarts that cost us games at interantional level.

I agree it was petulance and stupid. But so what? It's as much a development thing as physical size, tactical sense, decision selection, etc. He's get there. And quickly, especially if Foley ever strays into the backs' sessions ....

[The Outlaw]

You are in your arse. He was training with the extended ireland squad already

So was O Halloran, Conway, Gilroy etc. We're not short on back 3 players. O Halloran has some try scoring record playing for a desperately average provincial side

[Boo-boo]

I loved it when he was heading for the whitewash at top tilt when he saw the tackler coming over and all but stopped and then darted on again and left the Treviso rooted to the ground. Most could put on the brakes but to get going again as quick as he did it something else.

[Mcork]

Are you kidding me..?

We have the exact opposite problem on this site. When Nagle had a great MOTM performance against Oz, he was hailed as the next PO'C in the making. Oh there was no doubt about it, he would now be a regular fixture in the Munster senior squad and gather a handful of caps in the preceding 12 months.

When Barnes found form at the tail end of last season, all our problems were solved. We had a versatile centre who needed to be ushered into all the HEC games and international squad ASAP.

Peter O'Mahony made a fantastic breakthrough this season. But lord almighty you'd think he was the second coming.

And now Zebo. Great performances to be sure, but I like to watch a player at the senior level for at least a full season(preferably 2) before we start talking about how all the provincial and national issues have been solved by these 'liginds' that Munster have been developing in secret.


**Disclaimer**
This is not an attack on the players or their abilities. I truly wish them all the best and hope they perform to their potential and more. But wow there's a real lack of clarity around here sometimes

Ok. I admit to exaggeration. But when you have the likes of Francis in the indo saying Irish rugby is a wasteland of talentless rugby, it just seems if you haven't got 60 caps, you're crap. We are not no1 & 2 seeds in the HEC for nothing. The talent is there but we are too slow to recognise it. Sh;te if you were to look at the Welsh provinces, you'd say they should be total also rans.

[the plastic paddy]

But thats the difference between me and you. The ones I call usually make it.

On here anyone who plays well in the Rabo is the next Mike Gibson. Some of the judgement calls are lamentable at times here.

Zebo has the goods to make it. Big physique and he's so quick. He has massive competition from Dave kearney who is probably ahead of him at present.

But that yellow card yesterday is a reason why he may not make it. It was an awful stupid act of petulance IMO that can cost teams games. Needs to cut that ****e out.

However he will be internationally capped IMO. As will POM. However Hanrahan may be better then both of them and you can quote me on that. I have rarely seen an Irish back with the skill-level Hanrahan has. Pace, strength, passes off both hands and can kick. Whats not to like? If he would only get rid of the spare tyre he could be sensational

After that it will be a struggle.

Your modesty is, as usual, over whelming. What exactly does Dave Kearney do better than Zebo? He is not as fast, does not break tackles as well, has not got the boot but apart from that he is 'probably ahead of him at present'.

[The Outlaw]

Ok. I admit to exaggeration. But when you have the likes of Francis in the indo saying Irish rugby is a wasteland of talentless rugby, it just seems if you haven't got 60 caps, you're crap. We are not no1 & 2 seeds in the HEC for nothing. The talent is there but we are too slow to recognise it. Sh;te if you were to look at the Welsh provinces, you'd say they should be total also rans.

Number 8 internationally- you forgot that bit. Never past a world cup quarter final. one GS in 60 years(only 6 sides in it!)

The point Francis is making is that- Leinster wouldnt have won a HEC without Nacewa and Musnter wouldnt without their imports. You're not going to deny that now are you?

[the plastic paddy]

Zebo isnt a definite yet by a long shot. huge competition in the back 3. only area of the park where we actually have depth. but i'm sticking my neck out

Mary, Mary, quite contrary.... honestly Outlaw I sometimes wonder if you are being serious.

[blackwarrior]

I loved it when he was heading for the whitewash at top tilt when he saw the tackler coming over and all but stopped and then darted on again and left the Treviso rooted to the ground. Most could put on the brakes but to get going again as quick as he did it something else.

Are the highlights available anywhere - I missed the match ...?

[99_oK?]

Number 8 internationally- you forgot that bit. Never past a world cup quarter final. one GS in 60 years(only 6 sides in it!)

The point Francis is making is that- Leinster wouldnt have won a HEC without Nacewa - ???? and Musnter - that sounds likie a plce in Germany.... wouldnt without their imports. You're not going to deny that now are you?

What have you been schmokin'....?
Some may say Leinster's first HEC may not have been won without Rocky; and the 2nd one was helped out by another import, but to say they were the sole reason or that the input of the locals had nothing to do with the winning is attempting to deny the obvious. Have you never heard of a young Clontarf lad whom some say is OK? (his dad is a GP and used to play a bit himself....).

[Boo-boo]

Are the highlights available anywhere - I missed the match ...?

I do not see it yet on RTE player. I would not be that astute at finding things either so there could be highlights there!!

[Mcork]

Number 8 internationally- you forgot that bit. Never past a world cup quarter final. one GS in 60 years(only 6 sides in it!)

The point Francis is making is that- Leinster wouldnt have won a HEC without Nacewa and Musnter wouldnt without their imports. You're not going to deny that now are you?

One player responsible for Leinster winning the HEC? Nonsense!! Anyteam that wins something needs a hell of a lot of things to go right. Reffing decisions, draws, injuries, important players playing on form. They wouldn't have won the 2nd HEC without Sexton or for that matter Ross, Healy, O'Brien not to mention a certain BO'D. You are talking out your arse again. What is your point now? That Leinster are a one man team?

[fullmumhan]

Coming back to Zebo he demonstrated a lot of class yesterday throughout the field. His kick through was excellent and he followed up and was on Barnes shoulder when he was needed. He made a few mistakes but he tried a lot and most of them came off. You cant make an omlet without breaking a few eggs now and then,

[Appletart]

Considering the players read this (they do), this will only feed Zebo's ego in a negative way, its bad enough already and Im not saying this from a spectator's point of view.

[Mcork]

Considering the players read this (they do), this will only feed Zebo's ego in a negative way, its bad enough already and Im not saying this from a spectator's point of view.

When you see the lack of belief the players on the Irish team currently appear to have, I'm not sure that a bit of cockiness will actually be a damaging thing.

[MrsMcGahan]

It might make him a pain on a personal level but you need, not cocky, but players with belief.
His efforts in recent games will give him that.
Could see him getting a wonder try in a big game.
He has that factor 'X'.
The real one. Not the TV donkey****e for posers type.
Talentless chancers, ligginds in their own lunchtime.
Not that I have anything against them.........................

[fullmumhan]

Considering the players read this (they do), this will only feed Zebo's ego in a negative way, its bad enough already and Im not saying this from a spectator's point of view.

I think that is a bit hard on him. He played great and contributed all around the field. Maybe from you comment you know more about him than I do because Im just a supporter but my father used to quote an Irish proverb which in english was praise the young and theyll come along. I think fair praise where praise is due

[MunsterTel]

It might make him a pain on a personal level but you need, not cocky, but players with belief.
His efforts in recent games will give him that.
Could see him getting a wonder try in a big game.
He has that factor 'X'.
The real one. Not the TV donkey****e for posers type.
Talentless chancers, ligginds in their own lunchtime.
Not that I have anything against them.........................

Those idiots are what we make them. I reckon anyone that supports that sh*te by watching it or whatever is actually lower in braincell count than the morons themselves.

[bankman]

All hail the magic conch,

[ustix]

Coming back to Zebo he demonstrated a lot of class yesterday throughout the field. His kick through was excellent and he followed up and was on Barnes shoulder when he was needed. He made a few mistakes but he tried a lot and most of them came off. You cant make an omlet without breaking a few eggs now and then,

As the french would have it, le personne qui ne touche rien ne casse rien. Gwan young Trymon Zebo!

[DONC]

I read that very quickly and instantly thought of this man;

I really hope neither Danny or Simon take the pitch with a pineapple on their heads.

I think in years to come we may be talking of Zebo being one of our greats.

[The Outlaw]

One player responsible for Leinster winning the HEC? Nonsense!! Anyteam that wins something needs a hell of a lot of things to go right. Reffing decisions, draws, injuries, important players playing on form. They wouldn't have won the 2nd HEC without Sexton or for that matter Ross, Healy, O'Brien not to mention a certain BO'D. You are talking out your arse again. What is your point now? That Leinster are a one man team?

I think one player can elevate a team. We've seen that with BOD.Are you going to deny that one as well? Please do its entertaining.

[lactose intolerant]

There's a classy bunch of Munster players coming through, that was obvious 2 years ago. POM, Zebo, Murray, Nagle will all be internationals. Butler, DOC 11, & now Hanrahan are showing great promise. Archer is also finally showing signs of improvement.

Still no Limerick forwards which is very strange.

Ahem, cough, Sherry

[ustix]

Ahem, cough, Sherry

Larry, larry, sherry is the most over rated drink of them all. All sugar and no body.

[ustix]

But thats the difference between me and you. The ones I call usually make it.

On here anyone who plays well in the Rabo is the next Mike Gibson. Some of the judgement calls are lamentable at times here.

Zebo has the goods to make it. Big physique and he's so quick. He has massive competition from Dave kearney who is probably ahead of him at present.

But that yellow card yesterday is a reason why he may not make it. It was an awful stupid act of petulance IMO that can cost teams games. Needs to cut that ****e out.

However he will be internationally capped IMO. As will POM. However Hanrahan may be better then both of them and you can quote me on that. I have rarely seen an Irish back with the skill-level Hanrahan has. Pace, strength, passes off both hands and can kick. Whats not to like? If he would only get rid of the spare tyre he could be sensational

After that it will be a struggle.

JJ, of whom I've little seen, shall a Test Lion be.