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  1. #121
    After viewing Warburtons professionalism on sat i wouldn't want him the near the job....at least cuthbert still tried in same game......sicknote was an embarrassment.

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    I don't think Warburton will start for Wales this season and I also think wales are going to struggle like feck, the reason? Adam Jones is out and he is comfortably the most important player in the Welsh side. Hopefully this won't result in fewer Welsh players in the lions squad; at least we can be thankful that Gatland will probably be shamelessly partisan in his selection and fill the squad with loads of welsh which suits me just fine.

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    Adam jones is huge blow to Wales. Think for the tour their full backline could be brought and possibly Scott or Liam Williams. If Lydiate is fit he'll definitely go too

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    The Gavin Hastings Lions XV:
    15. Lee Byrne, 14. George North, 13. Brian O'Driscoll, 12. Jonathan Davies, 11. Tim Visser, 10. Jonny Sexton, 9. Danny Care, 8. Nick Easter, 7. Chris Robshaw, 6. Stephen Ferris, 5. Courtney Lawes, 4. Richie Gray, 3. Adam Jones, 2. Matthew Rees, 1. Joe Marler
    He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.

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    Hastings obviously hasn't got a rashers, the poor chap.
    "That's what's difficult. You know that O'Connell is going to be the one that will jump for the ball but you still don't manage to steal it. It's kind of annoying

    "I talked about it with the Toulouse players, my final in 2006 and theirs in 2008 against Munster. I was marking Paul O'Connell and they were man-marking him too. We knew he was going to jump. But I remember I was in really good condition, with a good lift, but every time I just missed it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_like_cake View Post
    The Gavin Hastings Lions XV:
    15. Lee Byrne, 14. George North, 13. Brian O'Driscoll, 12. Jonathan Davies, 11. Tim Visser, 10. Jonny Sexton, 9. Danny Care, 8. Nick Easter, 7. Chris Robshaw, 6. Stephen Ferris, 5. Courtney Lawes, 4. Richie Gray, 3. Adam Jones, 2. Matthew Rees, 1. Joe Marler

    He hasnt a clue how to pick a pack of forwards.
    I am the million man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_like_cake View Post
    The Gavin Hastings Lions XV:
    15. Lee Byrne Wont make the squad, 14. George North Agreed, 13. Brian O'Driscoll Agree if back fit and on form, a massive IF, 12. Jonathan Davies Will be in squad and possibly start 13 but won't start 12, 11. Tim Visser Strong possibility against Cuthbert, 10. Jonny Sexton Agreed, 9. Danny Care Agree for now. The form SH, 8. Nick Easter Won't make the squad, 7. Chris Robshaw Will make squad, possible capt/starter, 6. Stephen Ferris Agreed if fit, 5. Courtney Lawes I don't think he'll make squad (I'd have Parling ahead of him), 4. Richie Gray Agreed, 3. Adam Jones Agreed, 2. Matthew Rees Shouldn't make squad but probably will, 1. Joe Marler I'd start Healy but Marler will go very very close
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    Starting XV for Lions Tour???

    Zebo at full back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_like_cake View Post
    The Gavin Hastings Lions XV:
    15. Lee Byrne, 14. George North, 13. Brian O'Driscoll, 12. Jonathan Davies, 11. Tim Visser, 10. Jonny Sexton, 9. Danny Care, 8. Nick Easter, 7. Chris Robshaw, 6. Stephen Ferris, 5. Courtney Lawes, 4. Richie Gray, 3. Adam Jones, 2. Matthew Rees, 1. Joe Marler
    Lee Byrne - Won't Travel - HALFPEENY nailed on starter
    Robshaw - Ousted by a fit Warbutron, maybe pipuric too, Armitage?
    Like Easter at 8, form backrow
    Davies for Roberts?
    Strauss/Hartley for Rees
    Like props and 2nd rows

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    Re: Starting XV for Lions Tour???

    Healy will be starting loose head unless injured. Getting better and better every game
    I must not fear.
    Fear is the mind-killer.
    Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
    I will face my fear.
    I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
    And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
    Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
    Only I will remain

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    Starting XV for Lions Tour???

    Quote Originally Posted by Upfront_1979 View Post
    Healy will be starting loose head unless injured. Getting better and better every game
    Best 1 in the world IMHO, hope he doesn't get ruined p"ssing about for the Lions.

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    healy
    strauss
    jones
    gray
    poc
    ferris
    tipuric
    falatau
    care
    sexton
    visser
    roberts
    bod
    zebo
    halfpenny

    and a midweek team of:

    marler
    rees
    ross
    parling
    ryan
    pom
    robshaw
    easter
    murray
    priestland
    cuthbert
    jj
    earls
    north
    bowe

    bloody hell. i'd pay good money to watch a game between those two sides actually...

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    http://www.espnscrum.com/lions-tour-...ry/172684.html

    I always enjoy this for a bit of a laugh on a monday morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigron View Post
    http://www.espnscrum.com/lions-tour-...ry/172684.html

    I always enjoy this for a bit of a laugh on a monday morning.
    I hate all this stuff , its ok predicting a team on here months in advance but putting it like ESPN does is just stupid , Zebo at 13 and fair play to mc carthy but Lions? why dont they rename it to TEAM OF THE WEEK

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    Here are a few interesting ones from the BBC

    Jeremy Guscott's Lions XV: Halfpenny (Wales), Cuthbert (Wales), O'Driscoll (Ireland), Roberts (Wales), North (Wales); Sexton (Ireland), Phillips (Wales); Jenkins (Wales), Best (Ireland), A Jones (Wales), Charteris (Wales), Gray (Scotland), Ferris (Ireland), Warburton (Wales), Heaslip (Ireland).
    Keith Wood's Lions XV: Halfpenny (Wales), Bowe (Ireland), J Davies (Wales), O'Driscoll (Ireland), North (Wales); Sexton (Ireland), Phillips (Wales); Jenkins (Wales), Best (Ireland), A Jones (Wales), Gray (Scotland), AW Jones (Wales), O'Brien (Ireland), Warburton (Wales), Ferris (Ireland).
    Andy Nicol's Lions XV: Halfpenny (Wales), Bowe (Ireland), Tuilagi (England), Roberts (Wales), Visser (Scotland); Sexton (Ireland), Phillips (Wales); Jenkins (Wales), Hartley (England), A Jones (Wales), Gray (Scotland), Lawes (England), Ferris (Ireland), Warburton (Wales), Faletau (Wales).
    Jonathan Davies's Lions XV: Kearney (Ireland), Bowe (Ireland), O'Driscoll (Ireland), Tuilagi (England), North (Wales); Sexton (Ireland), Care (England); Sheridan (England), Best (Ireland), Cole (England), AW Jones (Wales), Lawes (England), Ferris (Ireland), Tipuric (Wales), Heaslip (Ireland).

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    I think following game one of Autumn tests Sexton is the standout 10, have to see how Flood goes against Oz, Boks and ABs but think sexton is best there. Was very disappointed with the entire Welsh backline!

    Keith Woods backrow looks awesome! But i still think Easter should go, is the best 8 about at the moment. Tipuric to over take Warburton.

    Captaincy is the next issue, warburton didn't really show much leadership against the Pumas. Robshaw was sensible in his decision making, O Connell and BOD currently sidelined. POCs future in doubt with constant injury:-( It could become a last man standing gets the role of Captain

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    1.Kilcoyne(reckon he'll make it by then)
    2.Strauss
    3.Jones
    4.Ryan
    5.POC
    6.POM
    7.Tipric
    8.Falateu
    9.Murray
    10.Flood
    11.Zebo
    12.Tuilagi
    13.Earls
    14.Visser
    15.Halfpenny

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcernedResident View Post
    1.Kilcoyne(reckon he'll make it by then)
    2.Strauss
    3.Jones
    4.Ryan
    5.POC
    6.POM
    7.Tipric
    8.Falateu
    9.Murray
    10.Flood
    11.Zebo
    12.Tuilagi
    13.Earls
    14.Visser
    15.Halfpenny
    Love it, where's Rodg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Brown View Post
    Love it, where's Rodg?
    The fact that you havent created another multi called Rodg by now is didappointing Jackie... Why dont you and concernedresident just take a hike....
    He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.

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    Re: Starting XV for Lions Tour???

    Nice one cake muncher. How about you take yourself for a long walk off a short pier.

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    The 2005 Lions were built too much around the successful, but past-it, England 2003 team. I fear the 2013 Lions will repeat the same mistake with this year's 2012 Welsh team.

    The 2009 squad at least had an Ireland and Munster core, which was justified at the time.

    So ideally, some country is going to need to come with a run in the 6N, and form the basis of next summer's squad. England look the best bet at the moment, but it's not inspiring.

    Where is the form potential Lions captain????
    "Playing against ROG, your big game plan is to try and pressure him but he’d dump it off to Wally and next thing you’re five metres behind the gain line because he was an absolute freak." Rory Best, Irish Examiner, May 2012

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    Starting XV for Lions Tour???

    Can't remember the last time there were so many slots up for grabs heading into a 6 nations. Even the captaincy will be decided in the 6N I think.

    Most of the most established front runners seem to be out injured, so it can only be the 6 nations that decides on the likes of Jones, POC, Best, Ferris, SOB, Kearney etc.
    "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwarrior View Post
    The 2005 Lions were built too much around the successful, but past-it, England 2003 team. I fear the 2013 Lions will repeat the same mistake with this year's 2012 Welsh team.

    The 2009 squad at least had an Ireland and Munster core, which was justified at the time.

    So ideally, some country is going to need to come with a run in the 6N, and form the basis of next summer's squad. England look the best bet at the moment, but it's not inspiring.

    Where is the form potential Lions captain????
    Gatland will take a massively Welsh squad. Thing is this is shaping up to be perfect timing for Australia, poor Lions squad at a point where their own form is so patchy.
    \"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balla Boy View Post
    Can't remember the last time there were so many slots up for grabs heading into a 6 nations. Even the captaincy will be decided in the 6N I think.

    Most of the most established front runners seem to be out injured, so it can only be the 6 nations that decides on the likes of Jones, POC, Best, Ferris, SOB, Kearney etc.
    Four of your mentioned players were significantly injured playing for the lions in SA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Omer View Post
    Gatland will take a massively Welsh squad. Thing is this is shaping up to be perfect timing for Australia, poor Lions squad at a point where their own form is so patchy.
    although based on today unless the Lions get the absolute best players possible out there fully fit this is a tour of disaster waiting to happen. England were blown away at the breakdown and out wide today so chances of relying on fielding a big English pack to dominate are dead in water right now.
    \"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Omer View Post
    Gatland will take a massively Welsh squad. Thing is this is shaping up to be perfect timing for Australia, poor Lions squad at a point where their own form is so patchy.
    After having been played off the park by Argentina and Samoa he might have a difficult time justifying that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardP View Post
    After having been played off the park by Argentina and Samoa he might have a difficult time justifying that..
    McGeechan never got called out on his favouritism to Scottish, Northampton and Wasps players on Lions tours
    \"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Omer View Post
    Gatland will take a massively Welsh squad. Thing is this is shaping up to be perfect timing for Australia, poor Lions squad at a point where their own form is so patchy.
    Gatland like most NZ's wants to win. I think he'll pick the best team. If he does it won't matter what Australia have
    Connacht Rugby

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_like_cake View Post
    The Gavin Hastings Lions XV:
    15. Lee Byrne, 14. George North, 13. Brian O'Driscoll, 12. Jonathan Davies, 11. Tim Visser, 10. Jonny Sexton, 9. Danny Care, 8. Nick Easter, 7. Chris Robshaw, 6. Stephen Ferris, 5. Courtney Lawes, 4. Richie Gray, 3. Adam Jones, 2. Matthew Rees, 1. Joe Marler
    How can a so called rugby expert & a player of vast experience have no idea about a potential team. For one Davies is a 13 predominantly & Roberts will play 12.

    For me.....Healy, Strauss, Jones, Gray, POC, Ferris, Warburton, Falateu, Philips, Sexton, Visser, Roberts, Tuilagi, North, Kearney

    Obviously loads of injuries will happen but fully fit I think those lad are the best in their positions in the the B&I countries,
    The only thing lance is on is his bike 6 hours a day, busting his ass, what are you on?

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    So far its almost panning out the exact opposite to what i expected, Wales dominated in 1st 2 games, Ireland poor against Boks, England failed to create enough against Oz, Scotland probably put there hands up the most after being beaten well by ABs but gave it a good lash as they did against Boks.

    Still think Halfpenny will be 15 and kicking. Care to stay at 9 (despite his poor kick costing England a try). I'd NOW have Visser on a wing ahead of Cuthbert, Ashton on the other. Centres probably Manu at 13 so far, 12 is up for grabs (D'arcy did alright against the Boks), 10 could be now between Flood and Sexton, Priestland has taken so many steps backwards!

    The pack, Cole to start at Tighthead, Strauss at Hooker, loosehead could be between Healy and Marler (very similar to each other), 2nd rows Richie Gray and AN Other, waiting on another one to their hand up and grab the opportunity. Backrow will be most interesting, Warburton in my eyes has now been overtaken in the welsh setup and now Lions by Tipuric, Blindside i'm leaving until i see Ferris, SOB and Lydiate back (expect all 3 to travel), No.8 anyone?? Morgan out of the England selection currently, Faletau is doing alright with a faultering Wales, Heaslip i think is a bit off the mark at the moment, needs to find the form he had when Leinster won the HC 1st. Dave Denton to push for 6/8 as well

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