Simple question really. Brian O'Driscoll, is he the greatest Irish player of all time. And if not, who is?
For me, he is, easily.
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The best Ive seen play. His leadership in winning the Grand Slam will always be something I'll remember about him. Great to watch him play.
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I'd have to say Yes, with notable mentions to Mike Gibson, Paul O'Connell & Ronan O'Gara
People scoff at the "golden generation" term, but at any other time in Irish Rugby History, either of ROG and POC would have been called "once in a generation" players. Would have been the best player we had by miles and would have earned the respect they have now and then some as they would have stood out even more as individuals much the way Parrisse does at Italy. Or Johnny did with England.
To have the three of them on the one team at the one time is mindblowing when u think of what went before them. These 3 are THE definition of the Golden Generation. When you add the likes of Wally, DOC, Heaslip, Bowe etc to that.....and in recently past times also add Wavin to that list and Bull to a certain extent.
But without question, the greatest of them all and the likes of which really wont ever see again, is BOD. A phenom!
Matt Mostyn would be up there as well I think
Hands down. A reasonable shout for best player of all time, full stop.
Much as it seems harsh to say it, I don't see POC or ROG as being on the same level. POC warrants comparison with any lock going, and is there with WJ as our best lock ever. But alongside Johnson, Matfield, Thorn he is what he is - a truly great international lock.
Those sorts of comparisons are always qualified for ROG, particularly in comparison to Carter.
For BOD though, I don't think there are comparators in his generation from anywhere.
Across attack and defence, with leadership thrown in, he is/was perfection attained in his position. Which puts him in a very elite group.
Jones, Brooke, Edwards, Campese...he's the only one if the three you could put in that company.
Gibson comes closest as an Irish player, for my money.
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Without a doubt the best player I've ever seen....then I'd have Wood, Wallace, POC in order and if Simon Geoghegan had played in a decent team I'd say he would have been seen as the best winger we've ever had.
Anyone else think he could genuinely do a job for Ireland at 7 !
I mean if Wally can play centre..............!!!
Savage on the ground, strong as a horse, obviously can carry ball.........!
Greatest player I've ever seen anyway. Without any doubt.
So much so that I cringe when I hear somebody say "the next Brian O'Driscoll" when talking about some up and coming young player.
Firstly, that's an unfair burden to put on a kid's shoulders, and secondly, we will most likely never produce somebody at the same level again.
We will never replace Brian O'Driscoll. Somebody though, will have the not so enviable task of taking over from Brian O'Driscoll.
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Who the hell is Wavin?
David Wallace another class act
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Mike Gibson was the classiest
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What about Slattery. BOD is certainly up there but Slattery and Mike Gibson would be ahead.
BOD, truely a great player (being honest he could have been greater I do think, fitness was poor for a while) and yes probably the best Irish player of the professional era certainly.
I do think Wallace is one of the best players we have ever produced also and would be a close second for me. BODs part in the grandslam was big but if you watch some of the games the amount of ground Wallace covered and the speed he was getting to every breakdown it was phenominal
Don't think we will see his like again but hope to be proven wrong.
First ever Rugby game I watched was his hat trick against France, he's probably responsible for me finding my favourite hobby/obsession
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Wally is a legend. One of Munsters all time greats, but anyone putting him in the same league as BOD is kidding themselves.
The only Munster player of the last 15 years to come even close to the same class as BOD is ROG. And he isnt there either.
upfront you could make arguments like that for any team sport about players.
JD, fair enough but wallace for me is one of the all time greats. I did say he was second to BOD but I do think hes up there. Just my opinion