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    Siiiiiggggghhhhhh. Same old Capies/ Always choking...
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    Walsh to referee the final. Have to say I enjoyed the SA semi a lot more. Can't explain it, just couldn't get into the NZ semi-final. I hope the Sharks go on and win, though just given the amount of travelling they've done......... Not wishing to hijack the thread but can someone explain how Walsh was a Kiwi, now an Aussie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD13 View Post
    Walsh to referee the final. Have to say I enjoyed the SA semi a lot more. Can't explain it, just couldn't get into the NZ semi-final. I hope the Sharks go on and win, though just given the amount of travelling they've done......... Not wishing to hijack the thread but can someone explain how Walsh was a Kiwi, now an Aussie.
    SANZAR make appointments based on merit. His nationality or citizenship is irrelevant. If a South African or Kiwi ref was the best ref of the year he would have been picked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD13 View Post
    Walsh to referee the final. Have to say I enjoyed the SA semi a lot more. Can't explain it, just couldn't get into the NZ semi-final. I hope the Sharks go on and win, though just given the amount of travelling they've done......... Not wishing to hijack the thread but can someone explain how Walsh was a Kiwi, now an Aussie.
    Great to hear that Walsh got the gig.

    He was sacked by NZ rugby (ironically, for getting drunk at a refereeing conference in Australia!) and then had the sense to go into rehab for alcoholism.

    He moved to Australia to make a new start and started working in construction. The Aussie ref union then invited him to ref club games in Sydney and from that he moved rapidly up the grades until he reached the top. He is now Australia's only IRB international panel ref.

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    It was a conference in Cape Town, from memory.

    Which I have to admit raised Walsh in my estimation. If any right-thinking human was in Cape Town facing listening to Paddy O'Brien for hours on end, the first thing to be done would be to start into the sundowners at a minute past noon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomond78 View Post
    It was a conference in Cape Town, from memory.

    Which I have to admit raised Walsh in my estimation. If any right-thinking human was in Cape Town facing listening to Paddy O'Brien for hours on end, the first thing to be done would be to start into the sundowners at a minute past noon.
    It was in Sydney.

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    Good word that Michael Foley's gone from the Waratahs (possible 4 year deal with the Force) with Mister Gaffney taking over the reigns!

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    Quote Originally Posted by garryowen2323 View Post
    Good word that Michael Foley's gone from the Waratahs (possible 4 year deal with the Force) with Mister Gaffney taking over the reigns!

    Like this good : http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/su...-1226439239626

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    And just on the move itself. I think it's a terrible call by the force. They need someone to come in with vision and a history of turning teams around. Not a coach who had a terrible year with the Tahs and had them playing a boring style of rugby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannybzr View Post
    Meant to put the emphasis on Alan Gaffney rather than Foley. Cheika's name being floated around again but I believe it'll be Gaffney's

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    Quote Originally Posted by garryowen2323 View Post
    Meant to put the emphasis on Alan Gaffney rather than Foley. Cheika's name being floated around again but I believe it'll be Gaffney's
    It's a strange combination if Gaffney takes it. An unimaginative team being taken over by a guy that in the past has shown a total lack of creativity. Mind you, stranger things have happened, look what Lawry Fisher has been doing at the Brumbies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannybzr View Post
    It's a strange combination if Gaffney takes it. An unimaginative team being taken over by a guy that in the past has shown a total lack of creativity. Mind you, stranger things have happened, look what Lawry Fisher has been doing at the Brumbies.
    Cheika and Gaffney now being rumoured. Back to the early Leinster days!

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    Cheika and Gaffney now being rumoured. Back to the early Leinster days!
    And look how that turned out
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    Can't wait for tomorrows final, the chiefs cut the crusaders open alot the last day and i felt could've if not should've won by more, the sharks, huge in defence, accurate in attack and Fantastic Freddie is in flying form and making excellent decisions, one worry for them Paul Jordaan and Michalik dealing with Cruden and SBW

    Cruden been best 10 in the tournament if not the best player, fantastic talent and a real fighter to have gone through what he has!! So much admiration for this young lad!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by garryowen2323 View Post
    Cheika and Gaffney now being rumoured. Back to the early Leinster days!
    That was Cheika and Knox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromance View Post
    Can't wait for tomorrows final, the chiefs cut the crusaders open alot the last day and i felt could've if not should've won by more, the sharks, huge in defence, accurate in attack and Fantastic Freddie is in flying form and making excellent decisions, one worry for them Paul Jordaan and Michalik dealing with Cruden and SBW

    Cruden been best 10 in the tournament if not the best player, fantastic talent and a real fighter to have gone through what he has!! So much admiration for this young lad!!
    (I wrote this 12 days ago and was delighted to be proven wrong, but ...) I very much fear that the 11,000 km flight, plus the time difference plus a day's less recovery time will do for the Sharks in the last 10 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dog View Post
    That was Cheika and Knox.
    Originally was Cheika and Knox when he first came but they won HEC in 2009 with Cheika and Gaffney (and McQuilkan who I'm surprised hasn't been employed as defense coach for someone)

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    Great win for the Chiefs. Awesome defence and tried to play some attacking rugby in awful conditions too. Fair play to them. Well deserved.

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    Keegan Daniel spoke really well after the game, very gracious in defeat, was correct that the tournaments best team one. Was delighted to see too teams really going at each other, high error count increased the excitement with turnovers in there own 22. Chiefs were outstanding all yr, great to see attacking rugby being rewarded with medals in both hemispheres

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromance View Post
    Keegan Daniel spoke really well after the game, very gracious in defeat, was correct that the tournaments best team one. Was delighted to see too teams really going at each other, high error count increased the excitement with turnovers in there own 22. Chiefs were outstanding all yr, great to see attacking rugby being rewarded with medals in both hemispheres
    Technically speaking Stormers were the best team after finishing top of the table (and SA had 3 in play offs) but agree completely with Chiefs deserving the title. Yes attacking rugby was rewarded but just like our neighbours, it was their defensive platform that ultimately won it for them and provided them with the opportunities to play attacking rugby when they had the ball themselves

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    Ruaidhrí Murphy future in balance

    Former Irish U-20 star ready to become a Wallaby but won't rule out return in green
    By Catherine Murphy


    Thursday June 28 2012


    WHILE Ireland recover from the annihilation handed down to them by the All Blacks and Australia dust themselves off from their clean sweep of Wales, former Leinster academy player Ruaidhrí Murphy is considering his international rugby prospects.
    The Brumbies prop admits that he's open to playing for the Wallabies should the opportunity arise, but he faces a battle to prove his eligibility to do so, in the short term at least.
    The 24-year-old has made a big impact on the Super Rugby competition since his arrival in Australia from English club Exeter, featuring in every game for the Australian conference leaders this season.
    Murphy was named in the Sydney Morning Herald's team of the week after an eight-point win over the Melbourne Rebels at the beginning of the month. However, the former Irish schools and underage player is still on the Brumbies foreign player list as the club fights to prove his eligibility for the Australian team.
    Murphy was born in Ireland but moved to Australia when he was a year old and spent the next 13 years in Perth.
    The family returned to Ireland when Ruaidhrí was 14, but his dad Greg has continued to commute between Ireland and Australia to work in mining.
    The Murphys still have a family home in Australia and operate their business from there.
    However, to be eligible to play for a nation you must have been born there (or your parents or grandparents) or living in the country for 36 months.
    IRB laws do not recognise Murphy's previous 13 years in Australia, much to his and his club's frustration. The former Castleknock college student is an Australian citizen.
    "Unfortunately, that's still going on. It's kind of left us a bit bemused because my situation is so black and white that I'm obviously, despite my accent, Australian," Murphy says.
    "I'm here as an Australian. I don't have a visa check. I walked through the airport as an Aussie with my passport but they won't grant it to me ... either way, at 36 months, and I'm contracted to that point anyway (at the Brumbies). Unless Ireland come looking for me and cap me, I'll be eligible for the Wallabies.
    "I'll let my rugby do the talking for now and when that time comes, if I'm good enough in May 2014, the decision can be made."
    Murphy says that his return to Australia felt like a homecoming but if Ireland did "come looking", as he says, it would be an offer that would be difficult to turn down.
    "Australia was like the little voice in the back of my head the whole time. If you ever speak to my dad, he'll tell you that I always had a longing to come back. Australia was always probably home for me.
    "Also, because we had citizenship and passports here, it meant that we were always going to have that golden ticket to come back, visa free, as an Aussie, which is how this whole opportunity opened up initially.
    "I never forgot about Australia. Although I really enjoyed it at Exeter -- and had the right opportunity arose to stay there I would have done that, I was getting big game, big occasion experience but just not enough of it.
    "Playing for Ireland underage was fantastic and I was so proud to pull on the green jersey and be part of a successful underage side. And I'm not saying that I wouldn't pull on a senior jersey.
    "If that opportunity arose I'd have to seriously consider it. My mam would kill me if I ever turned it down. At the same time, this is home to me now.
    "But if the day came where I had a decision to make that would be fantastic because I'd have done everything I wanted to do."
    Settled
    Murphy's mum, Lisa, in the prop's words "wouldn't move back to Australia for anything" and is well settled back home after 11 years.
    However, he often has other family members for company with his dad spending around two months at a time down under for work and his sister Niamh, who has just completed an architecture degree, considering pursuing a Masters in Australia.
    Ruaidhrí's younger brother Rian, who was just seven years old when the family returned to Ireland, is the most patriotic Irish member of the siblings, according to Murphy, who says he could have a big rugby future ahead of him too.
    "He's probably a better player than I was at that age. The pedigree is in him to do whatever he wants. He's naturally built to be a prop. He's a massive 17-year-old with a lot of potential. If he wants it he can go and get it."
    With Rian progressing through the rugby system nicely at Blackrock College, how would the family cope if the brothers ended up representing Ireland and Australia against one another?
    "That would be my mum's worst nightmare, she wouldn't know what to do, but we'd love it. She'd be proud but she'd be torn."
    Regardless of whether international duties are part of his future, there's no doubting Murphy's ambition.
    "In some ways, I think I'm finally getting what I've been working towards.
    "After six years in a professional rugby environment, I feel like I've paid my dues to get to where I am.
    "In some ways I'm getting that reward but obviously I realise how lucky I am.
    "I'm sitting behind Benny Alexander, who is probably the premier loosehead in the whole of Australian rugby at the moment, and then there's Dan Palmer, whose just been drafted into the Wallabies squad. To sit behind two Wallabies props is fine by me at the moment while I keep learning. But next year I'd like to progress to starting maybe half the games."
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    Anyone watching chiefs v sharks on sky sports?
    Cruden is running the show but has lots of time on the ball, kicking well too. SBW dangerous and looking to offload as per usual

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