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[Cowboy]

Nagle and Foley are going to have to step up at some stage. They have both had full contracts for over a year and have been around the set up for a few years. We can't keep them in cotton wool till they are 28. POC and DOC are both well into their 30's at this stage, time for one of Nagle and Foley to really step up

I thought Foley looked the more completed in terms of physicality and development last season, the game at Dave Parade he got injured in he was having a stormer

[Dumptruck]

Id agree. Does it indicate they were rushed back too quickly in the past? I'm wondering with Jones particularly if they are taking the view that he needs to build up his body or something after all his setbacks. He is "charging around like a spring chicken" yet won't be back till xmasish. I wonder are we seeing a slightly different approach from the medical/ s&c side of things

I don't think so, they did the same last season with Paul, Felix and BJ . It's just the right thing to do.

[Colliniho]

Anybody know when Nagle is due back? Apart from Felix he seems to be the longest term casualty at this stage

[Benji]

Anybody know when Nagle is due back? Apart from Felix he seems to be the longest term casualty at this stage

Nagle who?

[Thomond78]

Anybody know when Nagle is due back? Apart from Felix he seems to be the longest term casualty at this stage

October, I think?

[Benji]

Lads, Have there been any changes in the medical team and Doctors over the summer. Munster would need to get that sorted as it was obvious that players weren't handled properly last season.

[McCloud]

Lads, Have there been any changes in the medical team and Doctors over the summer. Munster would need to get that sorted as it was obvious that players weren't handled properly last season.

Yes some people have left. Don't know if they have been replaced though.

Ian Nagle, caped for Ireland A, mom when Munster played Australia a couple of seasons back.

[Colliniho]

Nagle who?

Nano Nagle, I hear she is due a comeback...

[Sketchy]

Nano Nagle, I hear she is due a comeback...

Haha... Nostalgia... enough to make a grown man cry. That made me think of these:

[bazzyg]

MAD RUMOUR ALERT.

I was busy yesterday and didn't have time to question him, but a mate had heard from a YM player that POC has had another problem with his knee and will be off for at least a few weeks longer than planned.

I'd imagine if it was true it would have leaked out by now, most journalists would kill to be the first out with that news.

[the plastic paddy]

I hate this thread!!

[McCloud]

MAD RUMOUR ALERT.

I was busy yesterday and didn't have time to question him, but a mate had heard from a YM player that POC has had another problem with his knee and will be off for at least a few weeks longer than planned.

I'd imagine if it was true it would have leaked out by now, most journalists would kill to be the first out with that news.

Penney said day before yesterday (I think) that POC wouldn't be back for a few weeks more. So no mad rumour.

Check out post # 499 for full details.

[Hellraiser]

Any word on Cotter's calf tear?

[MrsMcGahan]

O’Connell: Winning creates the legends

By Simon Lewis

Thursday, August 23, 2012
With a Grand Slam and two Heineken Cup successes on his resumé, Paul O’Connell is pretty much in the "been there, done that", category of rugby players.
The Munster lock even has a British & Lions captaincy on the list, from the tour to South Africa last time out in 2009. Yet even that would be surpassed by experiencing a Test series victory over Australia next summer.

Some good news at the bottom:

[McCloud]

Ravenhill return lined up for O’Connell

By Simon Lewis
Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Paul O’Connell and the bulk of Munster’s Irish international contingent are "on schedule" to make their seasonal debuts in 16 days’ time at Ravenhill.
Munster team manager Niall O’Donovan said the players managed by the IRFU player welfare programme, including lock O’Connell, had been cleared to play in round three of the RaboDirect Pro12 campaign, at Ulster on Friday, September 14.

Munster kick-off the Rob Penney era on Saturday at Murrayfield, when they open their season against last term’s Heineken Cup semi-finalists Edinburgh, with flanker Tommy O’Donnell the only fresh absentee due to bruised ribs sustained in thefinal pre-season friendly defeat to London Irish last Friday.

O’Connell, who handed the Munster captaincy to Doug Howlett last week, has been out of action since May with a serious knee injury first sustained in the Six Nations against France two months previously. He is, however, on course to join the likes of Ronan O’Gara, Keith Earls, Conor Murray and Simon Zebo in getting a run out at Ravenhill, although forwards Donnacha Ryan and Peter O’Mahony will be given an extra week to complete their conditioning.

Having been on both sides of the player availability process as a member of provincial and national teamcoaching set-ups, O’Donovan fully understands the merits of allowing Test players proper rest periods.

"It is in all our best interests to look after the players and make sure they are able to play the vital games we want them to play," O’Donovan said. "You’d love to be able to play Paul O’Connell week in week out but you can’t. So you have to get a guy who is gone into his early 30s now and mind him, and it is the same with the younger guys coming through, like Peter O’Mahony, and make sure they are getting the proper pre-season and make sure they are ready to go into battle when the time comes.

"We work closely with the Irish management on when we can slot guys in and when we take them out. So they’ll play a certain amount of games in the first lot of the season, but they’ll have their time off as well. And they have to have their time off, otherwise they are a spent force."

Of Munster’s players on the treatment table, openside flanker Niall Ronan is just a fortnight away from a comeback, having been out since last Christmas with a cruciate knee ligament injury, and could return for the province’s opening home league game at Thomond Park against Benetton Treviso on September 7 or the following Friday in Belfast. Back row Dave O’Callaghan suffered a calf tear in training before the London Irish friendly and will be out for two to three weeks, while lock Ian Nagle is three to five weeks away from full fitness following right shoulder surgery in the summer.

After a year on the sidelines following two knee operations, centre Troy Smith is five weeks off hiscomeback while full-back Felix Jones has been given a timeline of five to seven weeks to return from the left shoulder injury he suffered last season. One area where Munster are not short of numbers is in the front row, where 22-year-old prop John Ryan was allowed to join London Irish on a three-week loan to cover injuries on both sides of the scrum.

"They made contact, they were short of props," O’Donovan said. "All our props are healthy at the moment so we thought he might benefit from a bit of time over there and get a look at the broader picture."

Irish Examiner

[Colliniho]

Any word on Cotter's calf tear?

hoping to be back training this week

[Sketchy]

Ravenhill return lined up for O’Connell

By Simon Lewis
Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Paul O’Connell and the bulk of Munster’s Irish international contingent are "on schedule" to make their seasonal debuts in 16 days’ time at Ravenhill.
Munster team manager Niall O’Donovan said the players managed by the IRFU player welfare programme, including lock O’Connell, had been cleared to play in round three of the RaboDirect Pro12 campaign, at Ulster on Friday, September 14.

Munster kick-off the Rob Penney era on Saturday at Murrayfield, when they open their season against last term’s Heineken Cup semi-finalists Edinburgh, with flanker Tommy O’Donnell the only fresh absentee due to bruised ribs sustained in thefinal pre-season friendly defeat to London Irish last Friday.

O’Connell, who handed the Munster captaincy to Doug Howlett last week, has been out of action since May with a serious knee injury first sustained in the Six Nations against France two months previously. He is, however, on course to join the likes of Ronan O’Gara, Keith Earls, Conor Murray and Simon Zebo in getting a run out at Ravenhill, although forwards Donnacha Ryan and Peter O’Mahony will be given an extra week to complete their conditioning.

Having been on both sides of the player availability process as a member of provincial and national teamcoaching set-ups, O’Donovan fully understands the merits of allowing Test players proper rest periods.

"It is in all our best interests to look after the players and make sure they are able to play the vital games we want them to play," O’Donovan said. "You’d love to be able to play Paul O’Connell week in week out but you can’t. So you have to get a guy who is gone into his early 30s now and mind him, and it is the same with the younger guys coming through, like Peter O’Mahony, and make sure they are getting the proper pre-season and make sure they are ready to go into battle when the time comes.

"We work closely with the Irish management on when we can slot guys in and when we take them out. So they’ll play a certain amount of games in the first lot of the season, but they’ll have their time off as well. And they have to have their time off, otherwise they are a spent force."

Of Munster’s players on the treatment table, openside flanker Niall Ronan is just a fortnight away from a comeback, having been out since last Christmas with a cruciate knee ligament injury, and could return for the province’s opening home league game at Thomond Park against Benetton Treviso on September 7 or the following Friday in Belfast. Back row Dave O’Callaghan suffered a calf tear in training before the London Irish friendly and will be out for two to three weeks, while lock Ian Nagle is three to five weeks away from full fitness following right shoulder surgery in the summer.

After a year on the sidelines following two knee operations, centre Troy Smith is five weeks off hiscomeback while full-back Felix Jones has been given a timeline of five to seven weeks to return from the left shoulder injury he suffered last season. One area where Munster are not short of numbers is in the front row, where 22-year-old prop John Ryan was allowed to join London Irish on a three-week loan to cover injuries on both sides of the scrum.

"They made contact, they were short of props," O’Donovan said. "All our props are healthy at the moment so we thought he might benefit from a bit of time over there and get a look at the broader picture."

Irish Examiner

Penney mentioned that we wouldn't see Felix back until Christmas. Anyone know if he'll be ready for action within the 5 - 7 week period or will they be holding off on his return?

[the_dazz]

Ravenhill return lined up for O’Connell

By Simon Lewis
Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Paul O’Connell and the bulk of Munster’s Irish international contingent are "on schedule" to make their seasonal debuts in 16 days’ time at Ravenhill.
Munster team manager Niall O’Donovan said the players managed by the IRFU player welfare programme, including lock O’Connell, had been cleared to play in round three of the RaboDirect Pro12 campaign, at Ulster on Friday, September 14.

Munster kick-off the Rob Penney era on Saturday at Murrayfield, when they open their season against last term’s Heineken Cup semi-finalists Edinburgh, with flanker Tommy O’Donnell the only fresh absentee due to bruised ribs sustained in thefinal pre-season friendly defeat to London Irish last Friday.

O’Connell, who handed the Munster captaincy to Doug Howlett last week, has been out of action since May with a serious knee injury first sustained in the Six Nations against France two months previously. He is, however, on course to join the likes of Ronan O’Gara, Keith Earls, Conor Murray and Simon Zebo in getting a run out at Ravenhill, although forwards Donnacha Ryan and Peter O’Mahony will be given an extra week to complete their conditioning.

Having been on both sides of the player availability process as a member of provincial and national teamcoaching set-ups, O’Donovan fully understands the merits of allowing Test players proper rest periods.

"It is in all our best interests to look after the players and make sure they are able to play the vital games we want them to play," O’Donovan said. "You’d love to be able to play Paul O’Connell week in week out but you can’t. So you have to get a guy who is gone into his early 30s now and mind him, and it is the same with the younger guys coming through, like Peter O’Mahony, and make sure they are getting the proper pre-season and make sure they are ready to go into battle when the time comes.

"We work closely with the Irish management on when we can slot guys in and when we take them out. So they’ll play a certain amount of games in the first lot of the season, but they’ll have their time off as well. And they have to have their time off, otherwise they are a spent force."

Of Munster’s players on the treatment table, openside flanker Niall Ronan is just a fortnight away from a comeback, having been out since last Christmas with a cruciate knee ligament injury, and could return for the province’s opening home league game at Thomond Park against Benetton Treviso on September 7 or the following Friday in Belfast. Back row Dave O’Callaghan suffered a calf tear in training before the London Irish friendly and will be out for two to three weeks, while lock Ian Nagle is three to five weeks away from full fitness following right shoulder surgery in the summer.

After a year on the sidelines following two knee operations, centre Troy Smith is five weeks off hiscomeback while full-back Felix Jones has been given a timeline of five to seven weeks to return from the left shoulder injury he suffered last season. One area where Munster are not short of numbers is in the front row, where 22-year-old prop John Ryan was allowed to join London Irish on a three-week loan to cover injuries on both sides of the scrum.

"They made contact, they were short of props," O’Donovan said. "All our props are healthy at the moment so we thought he might benefit from a bit of time over there and get a look at the broader picture."

Irish Examiner

Putting an extra few KGs on the two lads just to add to their physical in your face bastard style??

[Paddytheman]

Putting an extra few KGs on the two lads just to add to their physical in your face bastard style??

Sounds good to me.

[lahinch_lass]

It seems johne Murphy tweaked his ankle over in Edinburgh last weekend .. supposed to be getting results of tests today.

[taz]

It seems johne Murphy tweaked his ankle over in Edinburgh last weekend .. supposed to be getting results of tests today.

He did it playing at club level not in Edinburgh AFAIK.

[isola ciarrai]

He did it playing at club level not in Edinburgh AFAIK.

Taz and LL, he was given game time by YM in the Charity Cup match V Garryowen, at the Killing Fields last weekend and went off in the 1st half looking uncomfortable. Ironically, he was given game time by YM to help with his match fitness after returning from injury lately.

[lahinch_lass]

Taz and LL, he was given game time by YM in the Charity Cup match V Garryowen, at the Killing Fields last weekend and went off in the 1st half looking uncomfortable. Ironically, he was given game time by YM to help with his match fitness after returning from injury lately.

Just goes to show I shouldn't believe the news reported by 3 newspapers
also a serious sign that I've been too busy at work to remember he didn't even play in edinburgh ...

[Thorns]

Putting an extra few KGs on the two lads just to add to their physical in your face bastard style??

Saw DR at the tallships here in dubland last week, hes fuppin massive now.

Saw Rob & Dave Kearney aswel...cough...

[rathbaner]

Just heard on the radio that Paul O'Connell will not be fit to play in the Ravenhil game as expected.

[Colliniho]

Sinead Kissane says on twitter that according to Penney there is no date set for a return for Paulie. He didn't train at all today.

[Viigand]

Ominous.

[ed7890]

That's not good. There was rumors on another forum a couple of days ago that things were looking bad and that he might even be done. That he could be looking at only a few HEC/6 nations games and that's it, but even that's not guaranteed. I was hoping it was it was just a rumor but this isn't a good sign.

[Cill na Martra]

That's not good. There was rumors on another forum a couple of days ago that things were looking bad and that he might even be done. That he could be looking at only a few HEC/6 nations games and that's it, but even that's not guaranteed. I was hoping it was it was just a rumor but this isn't a good sign.

Did the management know more than they let on? Is this real reason why Dougie was made captain?

[Hermes]

Did the management know more than they let on? Is this real reason why Dougie was made captain?

Perhaps. God this would put a dark cloud over everything. And things were looking so positive.