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  1. #31
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    If Ryan was mocking the supporters just how insulting is that to
    those who did turn up. As I said on another thread get real for the
    love of God things are tough and getting tougher people need to be
    careful with their money. Leinster Ulster only had a few more than
    us.
    If he was mocking I feel he should apologise or bugger off
    I am one of the 5 clowns woo hoo

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by scotscor
    Did Dryan really clap the north and south
    terraces? Stupid, silly thing to do.
    Thats very poor on his part. For someone who couldn't put his
    two legs in front of one another for the majority of the season
    its a bit rich.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by porterbelly
    Quote Originally Posted by scotscor
    Did Dryan really
    clap the north and south
    terraces? Stupid, silly thing to do.
    Thats very poor on his part. For someone who couldn't put
    his
    two legs in front of one another for the majority of the
    season
    its a bit rich.
    Ryan has played nearly 1600 minutes for Munster this
    season. Only du Preez, Varley and Leamy have played
    more rugby in the forwards than him. He's also been very
    good for the most part.

    It seems if Ryan did clap the terrace, he was clapping the
    guys in charge of the large flags.
    It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

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  4. #34


    Banners were a tad embarassing to see. 16th man and Red Army are not very appropriate when ive seen more people inthe chipper of a Saturday than at TP tother evening.


    Of course i say this but i didnt bother my bollix going which makes me part of the problem. A confessed blow in losing interest rapidly. Will go in 2 wks time though just in case they win. Could be a great evening if they do.


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  5. #35
    I agree Joey he has been very good for a lot of this season, and think your explanation for the clapping is probably bang on.
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  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by scotscor
    I agree Joey he has been very good for a
    lot of this season, and think your explanation for the clapping
    is probably bang on.
    Well Rob said he was in the terrace with the flags so it's likely
    Ryan was thanking them for the effort.
    It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

    Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

  7. #37
    Exactly, Joey.

    As for Matt Williams, his record is hardly one to permit him to
    comment on anyone's loyalty. About the best that can be said for him
    is that he's usually sacked before he runs. He's a coach whose record
    as such has made him unemployable as anything other than a poor
    man's Neil Francis.

  8. #38


    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyFantastic
    Quote Originally Posted by scotscor
    I agree Joey he has been very good for a
    lot of this season, and think your explanation for the clapping
    is probably bang on.
    Well Rob said he was in the terrace with the flags so it's likely
    Ryan was thanking them for the effort.

    Agree, Ryan would not go out to 'mock supporters' some people need to get a grip.
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  9. #39


    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tibbs
    Was listening to Off the Ball on Newstalk and Matt Williams opened up both barrels on Munster Fans for 'dumping their team, and not showing any loyalty to the team, which deserves better' I personally think he has a point. It was embaressing seeing masses of empty seats in both the stands, and the totally empty North and South terraces, with just the two banners with messages massaging the fans egos '16th Man' & 'Red Army' rather than words of support & encouragement for the team.

    There's a reason why Mattie is the default poll option on this site ...

  10. #40


    Was on West Terrace (North). I thought that D Ryan was really up for it trying to urge his fellow players and trying to keep the crowd going. Indeed I wished one or two of the players had his attitude!


    I think some of the posters are taking poetic licence in saying that he was mocking the supporters! I watched him before a number of lineouts being quite animated talking to the est of the forwards and acknowledging the supporters and their role

  11. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Point

    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tibbs
    Was listening to
    Off the Ball on Newstalk and Matt Williams opened up both
    barrels on Munster Fans for 'dumping their team, and not
    showing any loyalty to the team, which deserves better' I
    personally think he has a point.* It was embaressing seeing
    masses of empty seats in both the stands, and the totally
    empty North and South terraces, with just the two banners
    with messages massaging the fans egos '16th Man' & 'Red
    Army' rather than words of support & encouragement for
    the team.*

    There's a reason why Mattie is the default poll option on
    this site ...
    Listening to Williams now, don't think Williams is saying
    anything too far off the truth tbh. Btw, he didn't even
    mention Ryan.
    It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

    Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterfordlad
    I was there and fully agree it was disappointing to see so few there. It was a semi final FFS. Far too many fairweather fans out there
    Newsflash. Many people view the ML play-offs as joke shop meaningless bulls**t. I was at the game, but I really wasn't up for it. I may not make the final, as I can't afford to buy my ticket this week. I'm not even close to bothered about missing it if it comes to that.

    I've been at every home game this season and make no apology for not being overly bothered for these play-offs which are just made for tv and cash generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomond78
    Exactly, Joey.



    As for Matt Williams, his record is hardly one to permit him to

    comment on anyone's loyalty. About the best that can be said for him

    is that he's usually sacked before he runs. He's a coach whose record

    as such has made him unemployable as anything other than a poor

    man's Neil Francis.
    I disagree, I find his analysis to be far more insightful than Neil Francis', he's got a healthy respect for what Munster achieved when he was in charge of Leinster and you can tell he really loves the game and respects what we did in the time he was around.

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    I quite like Williams too, think his analysis is usually spot on but it is worth noting that this was the 5th</span> time</span> we played the O's this season, something not mentioned on Off The Ball last night
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    Yeah Williams is alright in my book too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackdaniels

    WTF are ye on about!!!! He said nothing wrong
    there! Will ye come in out of the fog FFS! Preciousness reachign a new
    level in this thread! Pathetic!


    On a side note, with it all going tits up at The Liberty, wouldnt Tommy
    be the perfect signing for us!! Winger or Centre! He would be ideal. Irish,
    world class, Back. The O's seem to be imploding. Holla and Scotty not
    getting on. Phillips and Hook departing stage left. 3/4 Empty stadium
    unless playing Cardiff...... It makes so much sense!


    Altho I seem to recall a Hugh Farrelly article not so long back saying
    Leinster would be his preferred next port of call so that might scupper
    that
    Key words in that sentence - Hugh Farrelly article. Pravda for the
    Leinsters, scorn and contempt for us. Even the usually supine and gutless
    IRFU would not countenance yet another incoming three-quarter at
    Leinster, after Carr, and with masses of young lads already there, would
    they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tibbs
    Was listening to Off the Ball on Newstalk and Matt Williams opened up both barrels on Munster Fans for 'dumping their team, and not showing any loyalty to the team, which deserves better' I personally think he has a point. It was embaressing seeing masses of empty seats in both the stands, and the totally empty North and South terraces, with just the two banners with messages massaging the fans egos '16th Man' &amp; 'Red Army' rather than words of support &amp; encouragement for the team.

    The same sort of loyalty Matt Williams showed to Ulster? And Matt may have loyalty issues outside of rugby if some of the rumours from his time at Ulster are to be believed.

    there's a reason Matt Williams is an option on every decent poll round here.
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    On one hand WTF,

    Bot on the other, he'd fit in perfectly to Limerick!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Piggybui
    On one hand WTF,

    Bot on the other, he'd fit in perfectly to Limerick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piggybui
    On one hand WTF,Bot on the other, he'd fit in perfectly to
    Limerick!
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  22. #52

    Quote Originally Posted by Weetabix
    Quote Originally Posted by Thomond78
    Exactly, Joey.



    As for Matt Williams, his record is hardly one to permit him to

    comment on anyone's loyalty. About the best that can be said for him

    is that he's usually sacked before he runs. He's a coach whose record

    as such has made him unemployable as anything other than a poor

    man's Neil Francis.
    I disagree, I find his analysis to be far more insightful than Neil Francis', he's got a healthy respect for what Munster achieved when he was in charge of Leinster and you can tell he really loves the game and respects what we did in the time he was around.
    me too. alot of time for matt Williams- expl;ains things well, has unique insights, and has a bit of craic too. If only we could finally get round to dragging that embarassing sub-moronic stuttering pr**k halfwit Nugent from Fortress D4 job centre, and his laughable position as head of RTE sport, we could put Mattie in his place instead. Whatever about his coaching record, he's a great pundit, and hands down the best rugby pundit on Irish radio and television.

  23. #53

    Quote Originally Posted by Flanimal
    Quote Originally Posted by Weetabix
    Quote Originally Posted by Thomond78
    Exactly, Joey.



    As for Matt Williams, his record is hardly one to permit him to

    comment on anyone's loyalty. About the best that can be said for him

    is that he's usually sacked before he runs. He's a coach whose record

    as such has made him unemployable as anything other than a poor

    man's Neil Francis.
    I disagree, I find his analysis to be far more insightful than Neil Francis', he's got a healthy respect for what Munster achieved when he was in charge of Leinster and you can tell he really loves the game and respects what we did in the time he was around.
    me too. alot of time for matt Williams- expl;ains things well, has unique insights, and has a bit of craic too. If only we could finally get round to dragging that embarassing sub-moronic stuttering pr**k halfwit Nugent from Fortress D4 job centre, and his laughable position as head of RTE sport, we could put Mattie in his place instead. Whatever about his coaching record, he's a great pundit, and hands down the best rugby pundit on Irish radio and television.
    That'd be my opinion of him as well. He's done the coach's job at the highest level [internationally for the Sweaties] and it's rare that you have those guys as pundits or analysts. For name recognition's value a lot of players are used, but I'd always be far more interested in having coaches as pundits rather than players.

    As for his record - fair enough, he hasn't always been the most successful, but coaching careers are more or less like political careers: they all end in failure. He's coached the Waratahs, Leinster, Ulster and Scotland – all big teams.

    He also knows how the relationships between playing staff, coaching staff, paid administrators and volunteer committee members [the shorts, the tracksuits, the suits and the blazers] work in Ireland, which gives him a hell of a lot of deep background on which to base his opinions.

    The other guy to look out for is Dean Ryan [ex-Gloucester coach] who to my mind is absolutely miles ahead of anybody analysing rugby on television. He's a guy who brings international experience plus very-high level coaching experience to the table, and is a very lucid thinker and a fluent communicator. I shut the f*ck up when he comes on the box!



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    Agree re. Ryan & Williams. Two of the very best analysts out
    there.

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