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    See in todays Examiner John Kelly touts this guy as the next big thing in Munster rugby. Anyone know anything about him? Is he a brother of Timmy and Dave or Evan with con? Seems to score a lot for UCC too
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    Any link to the article?

    Is another player our Academy managed to find a way to
    overlook?
    It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

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    Not actually an article. More a table of peoples expectations for 2011. Cant find it on website. apparently a horse of a man
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    No relation to the Highfield "Ryans" (Timmy, Dave and Paddy)


    UCC Academy and Munster Schools, 19sin his time. About 21/22, 6'2, built like a s**thouse and great ball carrier. Has all the attributes but heard it questioned whether he's tough enough mentally to make the top grade.


    Seen him play quite a bit and always been very impressed. Curious he's not quite mage grade for Munster academy considering the lack of depth at prop.



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    No relation to any of those Ryans and Evan plays with Clontarf now not Con. Big unit alright, was involved with the sub academy a few years ago and on the grapevine I was told he packed it in because he wasnt getting anywhere with it ( this may be completely untrue, its just what I was told!) Kelly seems to be very involved with UCC lately (it was him who advised munster about Sean Scanlon and Ivan Dinnen)

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    Quote Originally Posted by darren_ob
    No relation to any of those Ryans and Evan plays with Clontarf now not Con. Big unit alright, was involved with the sub academy a few years ago and on the grapevine I was told he packed it in because he wasnt getting anywhere with it ( this may be completely untrue, its just what I was told!) Kelly seems to be very involved with UCC lately (it was him who advised munster about Sean Scanlon and Ivan Dinnen)
    In fairness Scanlon had played for Ireland under age so he was always on the radar. Ivan Dineen was a good spot though, great player for UCC and deserves his Munster call up.

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    Played his underage Rugby with a junior club Muskerry RFC, ex CBC junior and senior cup player, currently with UCC.


    A fierce size of a man especally for his age as a prop. A good ball carrier. Was in the sub acadamy and didn't get his contact renewed either last year or maybe the year before last. Hard to know if he'll make it, can't understand the above post questioning his mental toughness, he's massively dedicated and has put in incredible hours in the gym trying to bulk up the the level he is at now to physically compete.
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    John Kelly speaking very highly of him,. Maybe a bit of reverse psychology to get him going in the right direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jollygreengiant
    John Kelly speaking very highly of
    him,. Maybe a bit of reverse psychology to get him going in
    the right direction.
    Doubt he'd chose the Examiner to do that. Probably just rates
    him highly.
    It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

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    Either way it will be a boost to him...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conan


    No relation to the Highfield "Ryans" (Timmy, Dave and Paddy)


    UCC Academy and Munster Schools, 19sin his time. About 21/22, 6'2, built like a s**thouse and great ball carrier. Has all the attributes but heard it questioned whether he's tough enough mentally to make the top grade.


    Seen him play quite a bit and always been very impressed. Curious he's not quite mage grade for Munster academy considering the lack of depth at prop.


    I pointed out on this site nearly 4 years ago that he was an excellent player.


    In fact, I also pointed out that Aidan Foley and John Ryan would make two thirds of one hell of a front row (they were a great combination in CBC whenever that fool of a coach played them together). It's crazy to think 4 years on, Ryan is still "out there" and Foley too, after getting messed around by Dolphin, is now getting completely messed about by Cork Con.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darren_ob
    No relation to any of those Ryans and
    Evan plays with Clontarf now not Con. Big unit alright, was
    involved with the sub academy a few years ago and on the
    grapevine I was told he packed it in because he wasnt
    getting anywhere with it
    (this may be completely
    untrue, its just what I was told!) Kelly seems to be very
    involved with UCC lately (it was him who advised munster
    about Sean Scanlon and Ivan Dinnen)
    Interesting I know for a fact two players in this years sub-
    academy who have recently quit for the same reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptrck
    Quote Originally Posted by darren_ob
    No relation to any of
    those Ryans and
    Evan plays with Clontarf now not Con. Big unit alright, was
    involved with the sub academy a few years ago and on the
    grapevine I was told he packed it in because he wasnt
    getting
    anywhere with it (this may be completely untrue, its just
    what I was told!
    ) Kelly seems to be very involved with
    UCC lately (it was him who advised munster about Sean
    Scanlon and Ivan Dinnen)
    Interesting I know two players in this years sub-academy
    who
    have recently quit with the same reason (won't
    name).
    Your friends could do with reading the interview with Tom
    Hayes Peatbog put up today. Would he, Ross or Varley be
    playing pro rugby if they gave up just because Munster
    effed them around?
    It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

    Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

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    Players fed up with the Munster academy and a lack a young quality players being produced by Munster. Putting two and two together here.
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    I wouldn't believe it all to be true just cos someone who knows someone heard that they were fed up of the academy. As an example, if a young player is told he's surplus to requirements it's believable that he might suggest he left of his own accord. Or maybe he decided professional rugby wasn't a career he wanted, etc. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cervidave
    I wouldn't believe it all to be true just cos someone who knows someone heard that they were fed up of the academy. As an example, if a young player is told he's surplus to requirements it's believable that he might suggest he left of his own accord. Or maybe he decided professional rugby wasn't a career he wanted, etc. etc.

    Unfortunately, there's a bit of self fullfilling prophesy going on with the Munster Academy i.e. some players are coming through from Schools Reps side that are political picks, and because they are in the box seat at 18, the System drags them along even though you know they will never make it.

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    Alan Quinlan was saying the same about Tommy O'Donnell,
    and I have yet to see a big performance out of him... : /

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    Tommy o donnell played pretty well when he came on aginst ulster

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    YA whenever i have seen tommy o donnell come on he has been solid and he is only 24 so he will have a good few years yet to learn from the best.

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    Any word on Diarmuid McCarthy these days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruffian
    Any word on Diarmuid McCarthy these
    days?
    Is he not playing senior with garryowen still??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munster72
    Quote Originally Posted by bruffian
    Any word on Diarmuid McCarthy these
    days?
    Is he not playing senior with garryowen still??

    wasnt playing last weekend. Coul be injured or anything though
    g\'wan bruff!!

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    Far as I know John Ryan has been involved in some of the B and I cup team sessions to date .. Next up is Nottingham so I would expect that he would be at least training with the B and I squad again....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruffian


    Quote Originally Posted by Munster72
    Quote Originally Posted by bruffian
    Any word on Diarmuid McCarthy these
    days?
    Is he not playing senior with garryowen still??

    wasnt playing last weekend. Coul be injured or anything though


    As far as i know he is finished playing. open to correction on that but thats the case as far as I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullback15
    Quote Originally Posted by bruffian


    Quote Originally Posted by Munster72
    Quote Originally Posted by bruffian
    Any word on Diarmuid McCarthy these
    days?
    Is he not playing senior with garryowen still??

    wasnt playing last weekend. Coul be injured or anything though


    As far as i know he is finished playing. open to correction on that but thats the case as far as I know


    Really? Sure he must only be 20! 21 tops.


    Shocking if true
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    Didn't he turn down the Academy?
    "It is understood he received offers from other clubs to continue playing for another year or two but preferred to finish his career with Munster."
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    Patience is a virtue , also I like to see props a little older (only my opinion) , think they reach their peak about 30 ... so plenty of time there

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    He is definitely 22 at this stage. Either way he is still very young, and an absolute bear of a player. Watched him play senior cup with CBC and later with UCC and always thought he was a good prospect. Don't know where the questions about his mental toughness are coming from. Any time I have spoken to him, he has come across as very focused and commited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruffian
    Quote Originally Posted by fullback15
    Quote Originally Posted by bruffian


    Quote Originally Posted by Munster72
    Quote Originally Posted by bruffian
    Any word on Diarmuid McCarthy these
    days?
    Is he not playing senior with garryowen still??

    wasnt playing last weekend. Coul be injured or anything though


    As far as i know he is finished playing. open to correction on that but thats the case as far as I know


    Really? Sure he must only be 20! 21 tops.


    Shocking if true
    Jez thats a pity if true. Players own decision i know but remember following his schools career and thinking he had more potential than Earls at that same stage...
    Id never be too worried about a prop not going into the academy at a young age as long as he didnt fall off the radar alotgether. Think they could learn more playing week in week out at a high enough AIL standard to begin with anyway. Always remember a young talented prop telling me of the scrummaging experience he had against former Munster, Connacht and Buccaneers player MArtin Cahill.
    Im an admirer of Tommy O Donnell but he really should be getting more game time than he is at the moment at that age. Think of where Leamy was at round the same age... Is it that we are struggling for lineout jumpers in the first team and his lack of height is seen as afactor against him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitter As A Lemon
    Didn't he turn down the Academy?
    who McCarthy or Ryan? McCarthy did alright.
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