Was expected but still another casualty on what is now a very very long list
Was expected but still another casualty on what is now a very very long list
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Good God. What was the cause? I know he had a serious [and freakish] eye injury previously and that he was having back surgery earlier this season ... either of those linked to the cause of retirement?
Always tough for a guy to have to retire prematurely.
Damn, damn, damn - really frustrating that he never got to fulfil his potential. Could have been more than a contender. Glad I had the chance to see him play, just once for Munster A. Best of luck to him for the future.
Never mind perception because it isn’t real. It’s only what people think. Go out and make them think something else.
- Alan Quinlan on believing in yourself
Would this be because of a chronic injury that has forced him into retirement, or is it a case of biting the bullet after one injury too many?
You look at Declan Fitzpatck breaking into the Irish squad at 28 after being injured for the year, it wasn't too late for Hurley.
And questions were asked after the failure to properly treat Poc's groin injury. Was Wally really fit to make his comeback in Galway? I think not. There seems to be an issue with condition, rehabilitation of player's after injury.
When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began to suspect Hungry
People are inclined to be hard on Munster with our 2 NIQ props in our first choice XV (by necessity) and bemoaning our lack of native props. However, if you look back to 2008 and since, we had lined up Darragh Hurley (who always looked first class when he could play), Tony Buckley (who even Smal thought would be world class) and Tim Ryan as successors to Bull, Marcus etc. It is sad for all concerned that neither Buckley (injury and illness apart) and Ryan (Dave R also) just never made it, and DH could not become injury free. Munster really did have a succession plan of sorts organised with expectations of Leamy, Barry Murphy, Ian Dowling, the props mentioned above, D Ryan (thankfully doing well now) and so on ready to step up - it just did not materialise.
Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch! "Not only is it not right, it's not even wrong!"[Wolfgang Pauli]
Maybe he just had enough himself. Take the insurance cheque and get on with living his life.Originally Posted by busby
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards - checkmate!" Zapp Brannigan
Serious questions to be answered from the Munster conditioning room? The list of players retiring now is becoming almost unbelievalbe, are they done or being shoved slightly?
Also Munster mid-season injuries seem to be quite high also. There's something not right there.
The IRFU have a case to answer on their precious "player welfare" also, as guys like BOD and POC should be nowhere near the NZ tour, given their age and injury history and the relitive meaninglessness of the tour.
Leinster Rugby - Reigning Champions of Europe
POC won't be there. Agree with you on BOD, but I'd say he'd like one last crack at them on their turf
I realised I was dyslexic when I went to a toga party dressed as a goat
Think you've got the wrong end of the stick there, Leo. The IRFU are the direct employers of BOD and POC through central contracts. Why wouldn't they want them to play against the world champions in the first defense of the Webb Ellis trophy?
Drico has only played seven games since October, he's fresher than he has ever been at this time of the season.
http://www.espnscrum.com/super-rugby...ry/166242.html
Former England flanker Michael Lipman has been forced to call time on his rugby career.
Lipman has been suffering from the side-effects linked with concussion and after one too many bangs to the head, he has decided to hang up his boots. ''The bottom line is that throughout my career I've had so many bangs to the head and I've had so much," Lipman told WAtoday. ''I've just had too many.
"Enough's enough and when you're body's talking to you like it is now, you've got to listen to it and be sensible because the hardest thing in anything really is to admit that your time is up and to come to terms with it.
''It [headache] is always there and you can feel the pressure in your head and when you start running and training it makes it a lot worse. You're just very confused really, and you're hazy and you're very clouded and not many things make sense.
Plato: \"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.\"
You read about this kind of thing more and more now, very worrying
Marty in the Morning
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/18794777
Xavier Rush. Fine player and captain.
God the Welsh teams will be piss this year at this rate.
A class act. Always disappointing to see ignominious endings to great careers through injury. Best of luck to him in the new coaching role.
"In my defense, every April 22nd I honor Richard Nixon's death by getting drunk and making some unpopular decisions."
-Jack Donaghy
**** it anyway. Sorry Huwie boss
That man was a stalwart for the Blues and harder than a coffin nail.
I am the million man.
Ah sure, I'll remember him for the good times... like when he skinned peter stringer to score a try in Thomond 2 years ago.**** it anyway. Sorry Huwie boss
That man was a stalwart for the Blues and harder than a coffin nail.
“You don’t have to be a structural engineer to know that if you load the top and weaken the bottom, even the mightiest of towers can fall with a crash.”- Eddie Butler
I had half an hour to burn while i was reading this thread so thought i'd gather all the info together in one post, edit/enhance/add to as you see fit, At first glance it looks like Wales is in the lead for retirements.
Prop:
Gary Powell, Achilles, Wales
Ronan Mc Cormack, Neck, 33, Ireland
Robbie Morris Back, 29, Ireland
David Barnes Neck, 34, England
Nigel Hall Achilles, 32, Wales
Eduard Cotzee Head 32 France
Iestyn Thomas Neck 35 Wales
Rhys Thomas Heart 29 wales
Darragh Hurley Ireland
David Flatman Hand, 33? England
Hooker:
John Fogarty, concussion, 33 , Ireland
Steve Thompson neck, 33, England
Jerry Flannery back 33 Ireland
Lloyd Burns, neck/heart 27 Wales
Matt Cairns Ankle 34
Andy Long neck 34 England
Second row:
Richard Blaze, Foot, England
Trevor Hogan, Knee, 31 Ireland
Conor McInerney knee, 24, Wales
Peter Short Ankle, 32 England
Deniol Jones Shoulder Wales
Scott Hobson shoulder 24 england
Adam Eustace neck 32 England
Jon Pendlebury concussion 29 England
Back row:
Daffyd Jones, Shoulder, 31, Wales
David Pollock, Hip Ireland
Nathan Budgett, Ankle , 35, England
Ben Lewis, Neck, 24, Wales
Alix Popham Shoulder 31 France
Joe Worseley Neck, 34 England
Gareth Williams neck, wales
Tom Rees Knee england
John Hart Shoulder 30 England
David Wallace Knee 35 Ireland
Denis Leamy Hip 30 Ireland
Michael Lipman Head australia
Xavier Rush Neck 34 Wales
Andy Beattie Ankle, England
Lewis Moody Knee? 34 England
Pat Sanderson Shoulder 33 England
Dan Ward-Smith Back 33 England
Gerald Gambetta Shoulder 27
Half Back:
Danny Lee, Shoulder, Wales
Conor O'Loughlin Hip, 28, Ireland
Ryan Powell neck 31 England
Back Five:
Thom Evans, neck, 24, Scotland
Mark Jones, Knee, 30, Wales
Ian Dowling, Hip, 28, Ireland
Tom Shanklin knee, 31, Wales
Barry Murphy Foot, 28? Ireland
Keith Matthews Achilles 28 Ireland
Shane Horgan knee 33 Ireland
simon danielli back Ireland
Jon Kennedy concussion 21
Last edited by PEATB0G; 27th-July-2012 at 20:24. Reason: New additions
That listing is just the last 18 months with a strong bias to announcements in Rabo squads.. we probably missed a lot of announcements in the Aviva and definitely from the SH & France, because I can't believe that their casualty lists are that much slimmer with their greater playing numbers.
Plato: \"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.\"
Very true, i've rememdered Flatman, Beattie and Moody retiring from Bath in the last 8 or so months aswell.
That post is a great basis for a very very good article, oi journos, I'm talking to you
...in what way will you feel more Irish if you force me to give up my feeling of being British? - David Ervine
Yes and no, if memory serves similar reasons for both Bill Beaumont and Mervyn Davies retiring
Funny thing is if you you look at the list above, hip appears a hell of a lot!!
\"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"
a few more for the list:
Pat Sanderson, backrow, 33 shoulder
Dan Ward-Smith, backrow, 33, back
Adam Eustace, 2nd row, 32, neck
Matt Cairns, hooker, 34, ankle
Any Long, hooker, 34, neck
Jon Kennedy, centre, 21 concussion
Ryan Powell, #9, 31, neck
Gerald Gambetta, Backrow, 27, shoulder
Shaggy was 33....long term knee injury....
Also, some people might find the rfu report below interesting.....
http://www.rfu.com/news/2012/january...d_injury_audit
Seas suas agus troid!
per request from peatbog I've copied his summary into the opening post of the thread. Mod's feel free to update at any stage .. I'm not on this forum as much as I used to be so may miss some updates.
BTW maybe a few people could signup for various league newsletters - I already get the Rabo press releases so I'll always be posting retirement announcements from there, but I'm not signing up for Aviva, top14 or super 15 newsletters..
Plato: \"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.\"
Dan Vickerman officially retired today. Had a great career having played for Brumbies, Waratahs and short spell at Northampton. While studying in the UK he also played 2 Varsity matches including winning one as captain in 2009.
Stress fracture in his right tibia spelt the end for him. Basically took 3 years out of rugby while studying in the UK and managed to return straight to Tri Nations tests level in the 2 Bledisloe encounters and helped Wallabies claim the Tri Nations last year.
In his 86 Super Rugby appearances and 63 Wallabies caps he has only managed to score one try! Amazing!
irishtimes.com - Last Updated: Tuesday, September 11, 2012, 11:26
Tigers' Newby forced to retire
Rugby: Leicester flanker Craig Newby has been forced to retire due to a knee injury. The 33-year-old, who won three New Zealand caps, made 84 appearances for Leicester following his arrival at Welford Road in 2008.
“I’ve made some good mates in England. I love living here and that’s something I want to continue to do,” Newby said. “I would like to stay in rugby in some capacity and coaching does appeal to me.”
4 Feb 2011 - Gilmore on the General Election
"Frankfurts way or Labours way."
28 Feb 2012 - Gilmore on a yes vote for the fiscal treaty
"A vote for economic stability and a vote for economic recovery."
Man, I hate seeing this thread being updated
Marty in the Morning
Ben Woods, the Leicester open side announced his retirement last week too, could a mod update please and thanks? 30 yrs old, wrist injury.
Edit; is there anyway a mod could format the OP to make the lists easier to read, like an excel sheet or something? Possibly with a column for nationality aswell as whoever posted Newby's update thinks it relevant. I simply went with the country the player was playing in when they retired so see if there was anything to look at regarding player welfare in a particular country/League.
Last edited by PEATB0G; 11th-September-2012 at 16:25. Reason: Request to Mod
Nic Berry, Wasps scrum half, recently announced his retirement due to repeated concussions. 28 yrs old.
http://www.wasps.co.uk/news/Wasps33359.ink
Richard Birkett, Wasps flanker/2nd row, age 33, neck injury.
http://www.wasps.co.uk/news/wasps33400.ink
Can I just make one point here though, it's probably not as big a shock that a guy aged 33 picks up an injury that brings forward his retirement as someone who is 23
\"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"
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