Agree the changes are positive. As a matter of interest, was that meeting before or after or during the 100 things to change thread? Just curious.Originally Posted by Dumptruck
Agree the changes are positive. As a matter of interest, was that meeting before or after or during the 100 things to change thread? Just curious.
Never mind perception because it isn’t real. It’s only what people think. Go out and make them think something else. Alan Quinlan Irish Times April 24th 2013
Sorry Lemmy mistook you there.
Being very very old now (well I feel it anyway) I have foresaken the terrace for the stands. From my vantage point in the West stand it looked to me like the East terrace and the North terrace had plenty of space on them. South terrace looked fairly full saw only one empty seat around me but could not judge the west stand or terrace. More worrying perhaps for MR the corporate area looked poorly attended, they certainly need to look at that pricing going forward as there is a good dollop of jam there I would expect.
For Rabo games there may be a case for looking at the price but I really am not certain there is for the Heino. I thought Sunday was quite well attended in the scheme of things given the day, opposition and time. I would be shocked if we dont sell out against Sarries, if we dont well then yea the powers that be have a lot to dwell on for next season.
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Initial discussions took place just ahead of MRSC renewals this year- April. That is of course you discount 4 years ago :-) . It then waited until the season closed and recommenced.
Glad they listened. Well done to all who took the time to take part.
Never mind perception because it isn’t real. It’s only what people think. Go out and make them think something else. Alan Quinlan Irish Times April 24th 2013
I was a bit dubious as to whether anything would come out of the process.
There were a few different focus groups as far as I know. Two of the groups contained what could be considered hard core supporters. I believe they were also trying to put a group together that was made up of more casual supporters.
In fairness to Munster Rubgy they tried a few different things last Sunday. Some of them will work, others will not but it is good to see a willingness to try different ideas.
If someone has to get credit I would be inclined to give it to Munster Rugby for engaging with supporters through various channels to see how they could improve the match day experience and then following through.
Last edited by glorob; 23rd-October-2012 at 12:58.
You might want to check your facts. There were clubs selling tickets for Eur 20 last week (including stand)...they were prepaid for as part of the "season" ticket process the clubs moved to 2 years ago I think it was now (other details of which would lead to meltdown if they appeared on here!!!!)
As an aside, I also noted Gleeson sports were selling discounted terrace tickets for €22 all in last Friday/Saturday...
Munster Rugby also had a ticket van outside the Cresent Shopping Centre in the days leading up to the game which I am unsure has ever happened before...I certainly never saw it...
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Nothing in my post that you quoted is factually incorrect.
"It is understood he received offers from other clubs to continue playing for another year or two but preferred to finish his career with Munster."
Charlie Mulqueen on Mick O'Driscoll's impending retirement
17/04/2012
Savage atmosphere for the time and day that the game was on, everyone was in a good mood ahead of a must win. There was a bit of a buzz about the place, great to see. Also brilliant to see current players out the back of the stand with all and sundry.
I hope this feeds into a fervent, christmassy, cold and passionate game in December. But after last weekend I have to say well done to all involved, terrific improvements. Even the cameraman wandering around the corridors being broadcast on the big screen, gave a bit of insight into what happens before the game behind closed doors
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Home Away Attendance Munster Edinburgh 22,164 Leicester Ospreys 20,224 Saracens Racing 18,212 Castres Northampton 11,425 Montpellier Sale 10,414 Exeter Clermont 9,819 Cardiff Toulon 9,624 Scarlets Leinster 9,555 Connacht Harlequins 8,199 Biarritz Zebre 7,182 Glasgow Ulster 6,194 Treviso Toulouse 5,000
Was only discussing this last night.
Nearly 23k attending a rugby match is a fantastic crowd. I guess we are just used to the sell-outs.
"It is understood he received offers from other clubs to continue playing for another year or two but preferred to finish his career with Munster."
Charlie Mulqueen on Mick O'Driscoll's impending retirement
17/04/2012
those Welsh attendances are pretty poor....connacht up there along side 2 of Wales traditional clubs.
His facts are correct. Clubs did indeed hand back tickets.
If people get their act together there is no good reason why the game against Saracens should not sell out.
This was an issue that came up at meeting with the Branch - they are very wary of this and annoying the paying public who've already paid. So i dont see discounting happen.
They might do it for large sports & Social clubs who would be willing to take a couple of hundred tickets in the hope of attracting new support. (Dell, Apple, EMC etc ...)
The meeting in Cork was on September 18th - dont know about the 100 ideas, never saw them sorry!
I wonder will the attendance for the Ireland XV (sic) V Fiji game in Thomond Park on 17 November match last Sunday's?
Interesting that it's cheaper to watch a Deccy's Dismal green monkeys XV than it is to watch Munster play the winless Zebras!
"An Ireland XV will play Fiji at Thomond Park on Saturday, 17th November. Ticket prices for this fixture are as follows: Category A Stand €30
Category B Stand €20 Terrace €15 Junior Ticket €7"
I wonder will the attendance for the Ireland XV (sic) V Fiji game in Thomond Park on 17 November match last Sunday's?
Interesting that it's cheaper to watch a Deccy's Dismal green monkeys XV than it is to watch Munster play the winless Zebras!
"An Ireland XV will play Fiji at Thomond Park on Saturday, 17th November. Ticket prices for this fixture are as follows: Category A Stand €30, Category B Stand €20, Terrace €15, Junior Ticket €7"
See post 186 above.
Unfortunately it's the clubs finances that'll lead them and the MB into conflict with MR, with the IRFU the underwriter/arbiter.
So it's not splitting hairs at all in my opinion.
That game isn't classified as an International. I also think that it will struggle to get 20k at that game.
"It is understood he received offers from other clubs to continue playing for another year or two but preferred to finish his career with Munster."
Charlie Mulqueen on Mick O'Driscoll's impending retirement
17/04/2012
The MB and MR are one in the same, except for 6 people who sit on the professional boards committee, and I think 2/3 of them are on the Branch committee also. It is in MUNSTER's best interest to sell-out TP.
"It is understood he received offers from other clubs to continue playing for another year or two but preferred to finish his career with Munster."
Charlie Mulqueen on Mick O'Driscoll's impending retirement
17/04/2012
I recall that the last set of financial figures weren't great. Can anyone remind me how poor they were and is the engagement with the supporters directly related to finances?
The loss for the year ended 30th June was in the region of €1 million.
There has always been engagement with supporters through contacts between the MRSC and Munster Rugby. It would appear the scale of engagement in relation to certain matters has been upped by Munster Rugby in recent times. Whatever the reasons for this it is a welcome development.
I must say that for a Sunday lunchtime I enjoyed the whole experience. I love seeing the mini rugby @ half time and what it means to those kids and their families & friends is immense. And it was great to skip the "entertainment" groups etc - though I'm sure they're all lovely lads and their Mammies love them to bits and it's great exposure for them, I REALLY HOPE THEY ABANDON THE NOTION FOR GOOD. The athletes were great and though of course you can't get them every time, much much better than some boyo twiddling his instrument. Also I thought that yer man's voice was more suitable than Cara's for the anthem and I'm a feminist so this is no anti-woman thing.
You are with respect missing my point, and by some considerable distance too.
Of course it's in everyone's best interest to sell out T.P. but we're dealing with a situation where this isn't happening, and the action of one body is at least potentially harmful to the finances of the another. The aims of the MB and MR are at odds with each other at this point - The clubs that make up the MB are looking at losses over unsold tickets, and MR need the income from these sales.
So notwithstanding the fact that the organisations may have common members, their quite different financial priorities may well create a difficult position.
Imagine if MR issued a statement saying - due to clubs returning HEC tickets unsold our income is €500,000 under budget so we are unable to pay two level 1 non IRFU contracted players wages.
There'd be mayhem.
Last edited by John Cooper Clarke; 23rd-October-2012 at 19:26.
I never missed your point.
Both their interests are served by selling out tickets, by whatever means is needed.
The main issue here is the clubs handing back tickets at such a late stage, but surely there is blame on the Professional Board for not "checking" in on club ticket sales and issueing deadlines, and also sticking to those deadlines, for clubs to return tickets.
They are both the same thing in this instance, as neither wants to harm the Professional game in Munster.
"It is understood he received offers from other clubs to continue playing for another year or two but preferred to finish his career with Munster."
Charlie Mulqueen on Mick O'Driscoll's impending retirement
17/04/2012
Dates focus minds its that simple, you always need deadlines.
You have to wonder (as I always have) why do we have the system we have regarding ticket sales as overall it really does not serve anyone well. If a club wants to buy X amount of season tickets for Munster well fine but it should be like a member of the MRSC buying a season ticket i.e. you bought it, it is yours you cant give it back if you dont want it. I know clubs saw this as a revenue stream but it was always going to be variable or cyclical and as such should not have been relied upon.
Running any club is difficult these days but a club swimming in the top pool of European rugby needs to be run with those with their fingers on the pulse. Not with the best will in the world the whims of clubs regarding a major source of funding and image. If our grounds (MP and TP) are close to full most of the time then we are seen in a different light to sponsors etc than if our grounds are near empty a lot of the times. Now this is a wide ranging problem but present arrangements are not working. I would have thought the MB would need to know how many season tickets have actually been sold as soon as possible in order to devise a strategy for selling tickets as part of a package or to make offers to youths in clubs and schools for certain games to get people in the gate (there are 4 or 5 not very attractive games every season but perhaps if schools and clubs knew they would get tickets, free even, for the North and South terraces they could make arrangements in good time to attend).
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Very poor attendance last night. Probably the smallest "crowd" since the ground reopened.
Pity a few more supporters could not make the effort.
Too much rugby in Limerick imo Glorob, the casual fans had their day out last week. When was the last competitive fixture in Cork?
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The crowd was pretty small alright. Maybe 8,000 if even?
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