I'm missing my third home game in ten whole years tomorrow, why? Because like any other person with half a brain and an education and little or no prospects I have had no choice but to emigrate. I read not long before I left that the unemployment rate in Limerick city was 24%, however in Dun Laoighaire/Rathdown it was 8%. Go figure!Originally Posted by Red October
we "need them" because the Munster brainstrust turned their backs on the old school rugby brigade when times were good.
No they didn't...the old school rugby brigade kept all the tickets for themselves, sold them for 100 quid and a plate of chips and told folks like me who don't have a club to get stuffed.
Sounds like it will be over 20k.
Next season they may need to cut the prices and try to sell more stuff in the ground and jerseys overseas.
Thomond78 : I wonder... Is it within Mod powers to change a certain OP's status from "senior member" to, say, "whinging beeeeotch"? What an amusing little reward that would be, were it to happen...
wasn't all these problems solved by hs in the 100 Ideas to Save.Munster Rugby thread?
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Seemed like a good attendance today, well over 20k I'd say.
Looked like a good sized crowd
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19-19 now. Watching on Sky Go (using relatives account) Quality is superb
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Sorry wasn't paying attention was meant for the non munster games thread
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Me too!
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It was good to see Munster players not involved in the match day squad signing autographs and posing for photos on the West side and in the MRSC bar today. There was also an improvement in the food on offer.
Both are welcome developments.
21,000 I heard. They would want a little sense though. Went to ticket office with my two small ones, asked for two junior tickets and an adult ticket. Your man says that he didn't have 3 seats together like that (he must have had 200 tickets in front of him)...I told him I was going to walk away and he duly obliged me. Walked up to other ticket office across from Shannon bar and girl there asked her supervisor who duly knocked the price of two adult tickets down to junior price and in I went.
Loads of cut price and even some free tickets floating around as well I heard.
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True, but then it costs a bloody fortune to run even a junior rugby club and this was one of the few ways of clubs raising funds in those times. Shabby but necessary. I am aware of junior clubs who charged a smallish levy, a tenner perhaps, on HEC group match tickets back in the day, which yielded perhaps two thousand euro in a season, which just about covered the essential IRFU player injury insurance. No fortunes were made, and clubs could easily have sold them to corporates for a lot of money but didn't, mostly. On a personal level, though handling tickets for my club I joined the MRSC in their second 'tranche' of offers, 10 years ago, and thus got my tickets for personal use, wife, brother etc. To be fair to Garrett, in a heated meeting in the Imperial Hotel, Mallow some years ago, (when the senior clubs ganged up to attempt to force MR into giving clubs more tickets by way of using MB arcane procedure to 'direct' the allocation tickets as the seniors wanted, masterminded by Derham of Cons), when confronted as to why the MRSC should get tickets when not with a club, he fought the MRSC corner well and truly. He saw then that the clubs were not the ideal vehicle for ticket distribution with a larger ground, and he a Con man at that! Not sure of exact match involved but believe it to be a 1/4 final, well pre-2006. In fact i believe many, many MRSC members then and now are also rugby club members.
IMHO, a number of factors affect TP attendances:
1. Our 'core' base is split by half being over 60 hard miles from the ground. This is not the case in the other provinces. So half of any potential full house have to drive over one hour, perhaps more, to get there at all. This especially relates to Pro12, like next Friday for Zebre - how can anyone from, say, Cork city, not to mention Youghal, Waterford, Skib, make it up for a Friday evening match? Yet people will bemoan a light attendance figure. I recall getting off the Park and Ride last season at Ryans Centra near South Court, and seeing people buying rolls there and then getting straight into a Waterford reg jeep and driving off for home, after Pro12 against Cardiff. That is hard. Besides, to one who recalls 'crowds' of less than 2,000 for the Celtic League against the likes of Warriors or Borders (both RIP) during a period of unparalled interest in Munster rugby, 10,000 to 12,000 for Pro12 is a miracle.
2. TP is too big and always was at 26,000 on a regular basis - a jam packed old TP held max 11,500/12,000, and an extra 6,000 or so tickets would have pleased most people. A 20,000 capacity ground would be full for every HEC match and there would be no talk of collapsing crowds.
3. Our era of innocence and striving is gone - as the old saying goes ' what's seldom is wonderful'. We now take it as read, despite the apparent glitch of two years ago, that we make the 1/4s as of right. When I spent a small fortune going on a day trip to Bordeaux in May 2000, I did so because I did not know we would ever again make it to a HEC semi final. Innocence indeed, but who knew?
4. One of the greatest teams of modern Irish times has passed on, with a few remaining; a team which with its final losses and huge travelling support, engendered one of THE great narratives of Irish sport. It contained both real legends and some liginds, players who were household names in non-rugby houses. That team were the team of those who were not traditional rugby peoeple. The aftermath was always going to seem second rate but it need not be. The new bunch will have to create their own narrative. In retrospect, the last minute drop goal win against Saints last season, was the final hurrah of the old narrative and even hard noses like Barnes, Miles Harrison etc were astounded and moved and we all dreamed a little while longer.
It was not just the fact of the successes we enjoyed, it was the manner of the way we got there and the characters who achieved it. The newbies are still bedding in & we have lost true great men in a short period - Fla, Leamy, Wally eg and inevitably the new men seem lesser but hopefully they will grow.
5. Our success made everyone associated with Munster rugby - MR itself, panel, supporters - complacent and it will be no harm to experience the thrill of hard earned wins again.
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Today's crowd were great. Great to be there. No lack of atmosphere, and no impatience. Good rugby supporters. Well done.
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My mate bought 6 tickets for today and next week, mostly for kids. But there's nothing on the tickets to say whitch is the adult and which is the child/junior ticket
Good post Isola, a fair summary of where we are I think.
Can't agree. Was in the upper reaches of the east stand and had 4 fellas from Cahir behind me loudly discussing their social lives all match.
Why the hell would you bother going? Had 3 embra fans next to me and they were giving it socks all game - fair play to them.
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I you want atmosphere, go to the terrace. Watching from the stand is like watching it on telly. Was in the west terrace today and it was great.
West terrace was mighty today. Stewards up their old ****e again however !
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I always go to West Terrace South, sitting bores me rigid. ended up in line with the 10 m line today and thought the atmosphere was pretty good. And that was a great spot for seeing the tries...
Terrace atmosphere is soooooo much better than the seats.
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I must have been close to you there. Agree - it was a blast today. I thought it was one of the better TP atmospheres, considering the run-up, previous results and the kick-off time.
And how brilliant it was to hear the noise ratchet up in the last 10 minutes. Great to be there!
"Playing against ROG, your big game plan is to try and pressure him but he’d dump it off to Wally and next thing you’re five metres behind the gain line because he was an absolute freak." Rory Best, Irish Examiner, May 2012
We were west tce sth too. Agree atmosphere was very good, especially given the god-awful time. Good noise for the scrums and line-outs and the tries, especially the last two. Enjoyed the match-choir wasn't bad, minirugby back, good cheer for the team going off before ko and Irish Paralympians/David Rudisha/Br O'Connell and a BPW. All in all, a good day.
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Not sure if it still exists but I remember hearing that there's a way for supporters to sell on season/10 year tickets (if they're not using them for certain matches) through the Munster website. Anyone know if this is still around?
It obviously wouldn't generate more sales as the tickets have been bought already but it could increase attendance and ensure there's more supporters there on match day. I know there were about 3,000 tickets left for today's game but I think the recession, the early kick off and perhaps last weekend's performance may have discouraged people from heading to it. I reckon the home Saracens match will shift more tickets. Another thing they could do is put tickets on public sale earlier. Obviously the clubs and MRSC get first preference but I think there putting these tickets on public sale a bit earlier could help boost sales and attendance.
Gosh i started this thread when I was 2 years younger!
Can i have them back?
Went to a meeting with an outside consultant in MP last month along with a dozen other invitees to discuss match day atmosphere, crowds etc. There was one earlier in TP.
We put forward a number of suggestions incliding non playing players meeting young fans and signing aotographs etc on match day - which was done yesterday.
Also suggested giving heavily discounted tickets to less appealing Rabo games to large companies to try to attract new supporters - i gave away a pair of tickets for yesterday's game i got from a sponsor in a work raffle. 50 people entered - doubt if many of them had ever been to a HC game.
Pre-match entertainment got a good kicking - being same old tired stuff.
Kick-off times annoy MB as much as the fans - but TV rights conquer all.
In fairness Branch seem to want to listen - good email at the week-end but sent way too late for Sunday arrangements.
I've no club allegiance and know nobody in the branch.
I was roughly around the same spot and the athmosphere was good,especially in the last 10-15 mins,really upped a few notches.
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Taz-Where did you get that information as I have seen nowhere that he(Penney) was ruled out?
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That is interesting. A reactive and now proactive MB!! Some good changes made. I think the 100 changes to Munster rugby thread also had a few suggestions-if anyone can find the 'to do list'. Well done to you. How come you're opinions are so valued that you were invited to the meeting?
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this service is only activated when games are sold-out or near sell-out. It's the ticket exchange service, if you put a ticket up on it & it sells you're then given credit back on your account that you can use for future purchases.
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We put forward a number of suggestions incliding non playing players meeting young fans and signing aotographs etc on match day - which was done yesterday.
Also suggested giving heavily discounted tickets to less appealing Rabo games to large companies to try to attract new supporters - i gave away a pair of tickets for yesterday's game i got from a sponsor in a work raffle. 50 people entered - doubt if many of them had ever been to a HC game.
Thought the crowd yesterday was good given that it was Edinburgh who are hardly a top draw side in the Rabo, never mind the HCup. The way results have gone I would expect a full house for the Sarriebok game and then, with a fair wind behind us a full house for the Racing game, so two out of three won't be too bad.
Credit to the Branch for taking on board comments from the support. Non-playing squad members making themselves available a great idea. I know that Murrayfield is a different set-up but after the opening game of the season both sets of players were in the supporter's bar talking to supporters, photos etc. Maintaining the contact between the playing squad and the support is key, otherwise rugby will end up like ladyball.
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No idea - have a 10 year ticket but not everybody there did.That is interesting. A reactive and now proactive MB!! Some good changes made. I think the 100 changes to Munster rugby thread also had a few suggestions-if anyone can find the 'to do list'. Well done to you. How come you're opinions are so valued that you were invited to the meeting
Philip Quinn - the financial controller was there as an observer also.
Lasted a couple of hours - good exchange of views - amazing the different perspective supporters have!
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