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    Manning extends Falcons deal
    20th December 2010 16:27



    Newcastle Falcons have announce that playmaker Jeremy Manning has put pen to paper on a two year contract extension at Kingston Park.





    The 25-year-old New Zealander has wowed fans with a succession of fine performances in the colours of the Falcons. And Manning, who kicked the winning points against Exeter Chiefs in the Amlin Challenge Cup yesterday, is delighted with the news.


    "I am really happy with life in the north-east," said Manning.


    "There is a lot of young talent here at the club and I want to help them develop. This is a fantastic club which is ambitious and moving in the right direction. I'm delighted to be a part of it," he added.


    Manning moved to the north-east from Irish province Munster in the summer after making 50 appearances for the Magners League outfit. Manning represented his homeland at Schools level before moving to Ireland to study, where he played club rugby for Cork before earning himself a switch to Munster.



    "Jeremy has excelled since he joined the club and I'm really pleased he's signed the contract," said Head coach Alan Tait.



    "He's a good lad and he's settled very well on Tyneside. With the youngsters coming through, Jeremy is a great asset for the club."
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    maybe the lad only needed a serious run of games to show what he could do.

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    He's not been great though. He's been decent but the level of
    OHs in England is nothing to be dancing about and he's not
    been the top level there. Don't want to be nasty and don't
    mean it that way but I think he's found his level and it
    wouldn't have been enough for Munster's HEC aspirations.
    Interesting thing though, he's only 25 and he's got years of
    HEC experience under his belt, pretty good thing to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynn's Ghost
    maybe the lad only needed a serious run of games to show what he could do.

    Have you watched him?
    He hasn't been as great as Tait is suggesting, if that was the case he would be starting most games, not just the Amlin CC games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flynn's Ghost
    maybe the lad only needed a serious
    run of games to show what he could do.
    Afaik, he's played more at fullback in the AP than at outhalf?

    He's a talented guy but he's still behind Gopperth.

    I'm delighted it's working out for him and really hope he goes
    on to have a top level career but we couldn't give him the
    games he needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitter As A Lemon

    Quote Originally Posted by flynn's Ghost
    maybe the lad only needed a serious run of games to show what he could do.

    Have you watched him?
    He hasn't been as great as Tait is suggesting, if that was the case he would be starting most games, not just the Amlin CC games.
    only seen him a few times for them. he started off very nervous and since then i think he has improved. dont get me wrong, he is never going to be a great, but i always thought that having ROG in the background must make you too self aware to reach your potential.

    if he is playing at fullback for them, was that tried with us? i always thought hed be a better 9 than 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynn's Ghost
    Quote Originally Posted by Bitter As A Lemon


    Quote Originally Posted by flynn's Ghost
    maybe the lad only needed a serious run of games to show what he could do.

    Have you watched him?
    He hasn't been as great as Tait is suggesting, if that was the case he would be starting most games, not just the Amlin CC games.

    only seen him a few times for them. he started off very nervous and since then i think he has improved. dont get me wrong, he is never going to be a great, but i always thought that having ROG in the background must make you too self aware to reach your potential.

    if he is playing at fullback for them, was that tried with us? i always thought hed be a better 9 than 10

    I think his second position at Munster was at Centre. Played a few B&I Games there and didn't do too badly in the oneIsaw first hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadlyBuzz
    Quote Originally Posted by flynn's Ghost
    Quote Originally Posted by Bitter As A Lemon


    Quote Originally Posted by flynn's Ghost
    maybe the lad only needed a serious run of games to show what he could do.

    Have you watched him?
    He hasn't been as great as Tait is suggesting, if that was the case he would be starting most games, not just the Amlin CC games.

    only seen him a few times for them. he started off very nervous and since then i think he has improved. dont get me wrong, he is never going to be a great, but i always thought that having ROG in the background must make you too self aware to reach your potential.

    if he is playing at fullback for them, was that tried with us? i always thought hed be a better 9 than 10

    I think his second position at Munster was at Centre. Played a few B&I Games there and didn't do too badly in the oneIsaw first hand.
    He filled in at FB the very very odd time, usually if there was a heap of injuries in the backs, and to be fair he did a decent enough job too, certainly far better than any of the wingers or centers we tried out back there. But it was his size that probably told against him, he's a small guy and prone to getting injured in tackles so having someone like that as your last line of defence I would suspect wasn't hugely confidence inspiring.

    Personally I thought he was good player, and he improved over his time at munster both in terms of his place-kicking and avoiding injury while still defending very well. He was horribly under-utlized by munster for much of his time here and I'm glad to hear he's settling in at Newcastle, he could come back to haunt us sometime in the future if we ever come up against Falcons.
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    One thing I will say, think I said it in the thread, he does seem
    to have toughened up because in one game he took a pretty
    bad cheap shot and carried out, in the past I'd have been
    worried about him being carted off.

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    Played FB again tonight against Sale (who had Tonetti in the
    centre). Not much about him but he is mentioned in the BBC
    report as "the excellent Jeremy Manning" so he must have
    done alright. Another player we may regret letting go?

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    He got awarded MOTM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsterboy
    Played FB again tonight against Sale
    (who had Tonetti in the
    centre). Not much about him but he is mentioned in the
    BBC
    report as "the excellent Jeremy Manning" so he must have
    done alright. Another player we may regret letting go?
    I don't think so. Hes a good Aviva premiership player but
    Munster want HEC standard players. I bet Newcastle are
    delighted to have him because they're a weak team in a
    fairly weak league so he's a good player for them to have.

    I hope he does well in England and stays injury free! [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropkick
    Quote Originally Posted by Munsterboy
    Played FB again tonight against Sale
    (who had Tonetti in the
    centre). Not much about him but he is mentioned in the
    BBC
    report as "the excellent Jeremy Manning" so he must have
    done alright. Another player we may regret letting go?
    I don't think so. Hes a good Aviva premiership player but
    Munster want HEC standard players. I bet Newcastle are
    delighted to have him because they're a weak team in a
    fairly weak league so he's a good player for them to have.

    I hope he does well in England and stays injury free! [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img]

    I think he had to move but I don't think he's purely limited to AP rugby, he's got a full enough game if can stay fit to be a useful player. His biggest problem was staying fit and if a move has fixed that (like it seemingly did for Wilkinson) he should get his career really going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsterboy
    Played FB again tonight against Sale (who had Tonetti in the
    centre). Not much about him but he is mentioned in the BBC report as "the excellent Jeremy Manning" so he must have done alright. Another player we may regret letting go?

    I suppose he would have to be compared to Keatley.

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    I honestly think it was 1 pointless him staying at Munster when
    there was 2 other OH options who would always be ahead of
    him and 2 he simply wasn't gelling with TOL yet that's who
    he'd have had to play outside

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    Quote Originally Posted by Point

    Quote Originally Posted by Munsterboy
    Played FB again tonight against Sale (who had Tonetti in the
    centre). Not much about him but he is mentioned in the BBC report as "the excellent Jeremy Manning" so he must have done alright. Another player we may regret letting go?

    I suppose he would have to be compared to Keatley.
    3 years ago they played each other twice in 4 or 5 months and manning won that battle hands down. once for con in a big win over clontarf in dublin and once out in the UL bowl for munster A over leinster A.

    3 years is a long time in rugby though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellovating
    Quote Originally Posted by Point

    Quote Originally Posted by Munsterboy
    Played FB again
    tonight against Sale (who had Tonetti in the centre). Not
    much about him but he is mentioned in the BBC report as
    "the excellent Jeremy Manning" so he must have done
    alright. Another player we may regret letting go?


    I suppose he would have to be compared to Keatley.
    3 years ago they played each other twice in 4 or
    5 months and manning won that battle hands down. once
    for con in a big win over clontarf in dublin and once out in
    the UL bowl for munster A over leinster A.3 years is a long
    time in rugby though.
    In those 3 years Keatley has moved to Connacht, played
    regular first team rugby and moved on a lot. Manning has
    more or less stood still. Good player but it wasn't going to
    work at Munster. If Keatley is being brought in and
    Warwick more or less gone then Munster must seriously
    plan on Keatley taking over from ROG. I don't know it
    ever looked like they had that plan for Manning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Omer
    Quote Originally Posted by hellovating

    Quote Originally Posted by Point

    Quote Originally Posted by Munsterboy
    Played FB again

    tonight against Sale (who had Tonetti in the centre). Not

    much about him but he is mentioned in the BBC report as

    "the excellent Jeremy Manning" so he must have done

    alright. Another player we may regret letting go?




    I suppose he would have to be compared to Keatley.
    3 years ago they played each other twice in 4 or

    5 months and manning won that battle hands down. once

    for con in a big win over clontarf in dublin and once out in

    the UL bowl for munster A over leinster A.3 years is a long

    time in rugby though.


    In those 3 years Keatley has moved to Connacht, played

    regular first team rugby and moved on a lot. Manning has

    more or less stood still. Good player but it wasn't going to

    work at Munster. If Keatley is being brought in and

    Warwick more or less gone then Munster must seriously

    plan on Keatley taking over from ROG. I don't know it

    ever looked like they had that plan for Manning.
    Manning was the first "project" player munster brought in, at the time I'd suspect the plan was for him to be 3rd choice OH and eventually move up the ladder, then Staunton left, and Paul Burke was brought in, but Burke was overtaken by Manning whenever Manning stayed fit for any length of time. When Warwick was then signed and proved flexible enough and reliable enough to keep Manning as 3rd choice his motivation to stay had to take a serious hit.
    Personnally I'd say it was his tendancy toward injury was what did for him at Munster, it's no use having him in the squad as cover if he's the one that's always injured !

    One question though, does anyone know if he's still eligible for Ireland now that he's left the country ? He was a damn good 7's player too and Ireland are supposed to be getting serious about 7's now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Omer
    Quote Originally Posted by hellovating

    Quote Originally Posted by Point

    Quote Originally Posted by Munsterboy
    Played FB again

    tonight against Sale (who had Tonetti in the centre). Not

    much about him but he is mentioned in the BBC report as

    "the excellent Jeremy Manning" so he must have done

    alright. Another player we may regret letting go?




    I suppose he would have to be compared to Keatley.
    3 years ago they played each other twice in 4 or

    5 months and manning won that battle hands down. once

    for con in a big win over clontarf in dublin and once out in

    the UL bowl for munster A over leinster A.3 years is a long

    time in rugby though.


    In those 3 years Keatley has moved to Connacht, played

    regular first team rugby and moved on a lot. Manning has

    more or less stood still. Good player but it wasn't going to

    work at Munster. If Keatley is being brought in and

    Warwick more or less gone then Munster must seriously

    plan on Keatley taking over from ROG. I don't know it

    ever looked like they had that plan for Manning.
    Lets hope they don't have it for Keatley either after that performance on Thursday night.
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    BTW aviva round-up is on setanta ireland right now.
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    IIRC Manning wasn't a Munster project he was an IRFU
    project. The aim was he'd come over at 19 and qualify for
    Ireland. Why he was at Munster when he was never going to
    displace ROG I don't know. I think Staunton left the year
    Manning arrived, don't think they overlapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Omer
    IIRC Manning wasn't a Munster project he was an IRFU

    project. The aim was he'd come over at 19 and qualify for

    Ireland. Why he was at Munster when he was never going to

    displace ROG I don't know. I think Staunton left the year

    Manning arrived, don't think they overlapped.
    I was trying to remember who the other OH was who overlapped.. name has finally returned to mne - Eoghan Hickey .. heck of a boot but couldn't make a decision to save his life if memory serves.
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    Just finished watching the Ulster v Munster game in Ravenhill in 07. Some number of players on that team who are no longer around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lahinch_lass
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Omer
    IIRC Manning wasn't a Munster project
    he was an IRFU
    project. The aim was he'd come over at 19 and qualify for
    Ireland. Why he was at Munster when he was never going
    to
    displace ROG I don't know. I think Staunton left the year
    Manning arrived, don't think they overlapped.
    I
    was trying to remember who the other OH was who
    overlapped.. name has finally returned to mne - Eoghan
    Hickey .. heck of a boot but couldn't make a decision to
    save his life if memory serves.
    Hickey had a couple of spells in GP, not sure where now,
    big lad with some talent better suited to FB than Manning
    had been but probably less talented overall. Like you say,
    had a big boot on him but ultimately proved frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Omer
    Quote Originally Posted by lahinch_lass

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Omer
    IIRC Manning wasn't a Munster project

    he was an IRFU

    project. The aim was he'd come over at 19 and qualify for

    Ireland. Why he was at Munster when he was never going

    to

    displace ROG I don't know. I think Staunton left the year

    Manning arrived, don't think they overlapped.
    I

    was trying to remember who the other OH was who

    overlapped.. name has finally returned to mne - Eoghan

    Hickey .. heck of a boot but couldn't make a decision to

    save his life if memory serves.


    Hickey had a couple of spells in GP, not sure where now,

    big lad with some talent better suited to FB than Manning

    had been but probably less talented overall. Like you say,

    had a big boot on him but ultimately proved frustrating.
    Not nots let him go during the summer. He went on loan somewhere for a while last season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overthehillprop
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Omer
    Quote Originally Posted by lahinch_lass
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Omer
    IIRC Manning wasn't a Munster project
    he was an IRFU
    project. The aim was he'd come over at 19 and qualify for
    Ireland. Why he was at Munster when he was never going
    to
    displace ROG I don't know. I think Staunton left the year
    Manning arrived, don't think they overlapped.
    I
    was trying to remember who the other OH was who
    overlapped.. name has finally returned to mne - Eoghan
    Hickey .. heck of a boot but couldn't make a decision to
    save his life if memory serves.
    Hickey had a couple of spells in GP, not sure where now,
    big lad with some talent better suited to FB than Manning
    had been but probably less talented overall. Like you say,
    had a big boot on him but ultimately proved
    frustrating.
    Not nots let him go during the
    summer. He went on loan somewhere for a while last
    season.
    Think he's back playing AIL this year?
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    The injury curse has hit Jeremy once more..
    He's out with a hip injury that he got in Friday game for falcons. Apparently the initial fear was a fractured hip, but that apparently is not the case.
    http://www.newcastle-falcons.co.uk/36_6616.php

    For the twitterati who might be interested, he has joined the ranks as @kiwibatler
    The players all seem to be joining twitter as they get injured, guess it gives them something to do in the downtime.
    Dowling is on it too but not tweeting, I'd suspect jeremy his hoping his hip injury is not the same as Skinny's.

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    did he ever qualify for ireland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynn's Ghost
    did he ever qualify for ireland?
    he was here long enough to qualify on residency by IRB rules, but was never selected. No idea what the story is now that he's living in england.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lahinch_lass
    Quote Originally Posted by flynn's Ghost
    did he ever qualify for ireland?
    he was here long enough to qualify on residency by IRB rules, but was never selected. No idea what the story is now that he's living in england.
    Flutey remained an EQP while in France but he'd already been capped at that stage. I'd say JM still qualifies but not sure

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