Quinn Insurance in administration

[taz]

Lawyers for Peter Darragh Quinn say they haven't heard from him since early hours of Friday morning. His solicitors want to come off record.

[Thomond78]

Lawyers for Peter Darragh Quinn say they haven't heard from him since early hours of Friday morning. His solicitors want to come off record.

Which is fair enough. They did their duty to the Court in as regards what communications they'd received from their client and it is now impossible for them to act for someone who's on the run and refusing to give instructions.

[Stanley]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking23.html


Junior gets it easy, it would be gas if the Anglo 3 were sent there to join him.

[Stanley]

And so it came to pass that the GAA have come out and endorsed the Quinns, one after the other they q up to kiss SQ's arse whilst the ordinary GAA supporters will have to pick up their bills in their 9 to 5 job as taxpayers.
SQ is doing the same as Lowry in looking for the blind endorsement, it worked for him so why not again.
Wonder if the GAA's annual grants from the Govt has just been paid out.

[busby]

And so it came to pass that the GAA have come out and endorsed the Quinns, one after the other they q up to kiss SQ's arse whilst the ordinary GAA supporters will have to pick up their bills in their 9 to 5 job as taxpayers.
SQ is doing the same as Lowry in looking for the blind endorsement, it worked for him so why not again.
Wonder if the GAA's annual grants from the Govt has just been paid out.

What have the GAA got to do with this? The GAA is the major part of rural society, major GAA personalities from that area coming out in support of them simply sums up the attitude of people in that area generally. If rugby happened to be sport of choice up there, it would be local rugby personalties doing it.

I sat down to watch the Vinne B show recently where they had two idiots from Cavan on to give balance to what the two authors of inside Anglo had to say about this topic. The difference in basic intelligence and maturity between both pairs was astounding. I pretty much decided there and then to treat this mighty Quinn movement as pure entertainment and a circus act.

Also with all due respect to Mickey Harte and everything he's been through, would he ever just it a fecking break with this crap.

[Old Dog]

What have the GAA got to do with this? The GAA is the major part of rural society, major GAA personalities from that area coming out in support of them simply sums up the attitude of people in that area generally. If rugby happened to be sport of choice up there, it would be local rugby personalties doing it.

Fair point. After all, didn't some well-known Irish rugby personality give character evidence for a spectacularly bad SUV driver, not all that long ago? And no one attacked the IRFU for that episode.

[NiallGK]

And noone attacked the IRFU for that episode.

Good Lord sir, I confess that I am shocked that you are following the MFs herd with regard to the spelling of these two words.

[Old Dog]

Good Lord sir, I confess that I am shocked that you are following the MFs herd with regard to the spelling of these two words.

Proof that my new senility tablets are 100% effective. (I had spelt it no-one but that looked wrong so I changed it and posted without reading what I had posted!)

[glorob]

Support for shameless Quinn is misplaced.

Fintan O'Toole's thoughts:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...51.html?via=mr

[Stanley]

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...r-3186263.html


Sean Kelly coming out in support and kinda saying Kerry is/would be behind Quinn, will this be enough for the Healey-Raes and John O'Donoghoe to provide endorsments, all the muck savages jumping on a cause.

Personally would think Judge Peter Kelly not allowing the Quinns funds for PR purposes in their weekly expenses has caused SQ to go for the GAA vote which his brother, Peter Snr., can probably deliver.

Will be great fun if they march on the Joy and their sons, the Gardai, have to confront them with batons.

[busby]

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...r-3186263.html


Sean Kelly coming out in support and kinda saying Kerry is/would be behind Quinn, will this be enough for the Healey-Raes and John O'Donoghoe to provide endorsments, all the muck savages jumping on a cause.

Personally would think Judge Peter Kelly not allowing the Quinns funds for PR purposes in their weekly expenses has caused SQ to go for the GAA vote which his brother, Peter Snr., can probably deliver.

Will be great fun if they march on the Joy and their sons, the Gardai, have to confront them with batons.

No he doesn't. He says if Quinn was from Kerry they'd probably be doing the exact same thing (I would venture that if Quinn was from Kerry the reaction to this would be 10 times more parochial - remember the Listowel rapist). I don't actually see where he's in any way defending Quinn though, he's simply explaining why people in his local area are so parochial about defending him.

While it's easy to understand how wrong they are, it's also very easy to understand why they think that way. At a time when services in rural areas appear to be the primary focus for cut backs, a local businessman who invested heavily in his local area being driven into the ground (and rightly so) by an arm of the state is going to generate this type of reaction.

I don't really see how relevant these protests are and what a few guys like Mickey Harte and Joe Kearnan (who aren't even paying back these Anglo losses in their taxes) have to say about it, or what impact they'll have on anything. This is a legal issue, not a political one.

[Stanley]

No he doesn't. He says if Quinn was from Kerry they'd probably be doing the exact same thing (I would venture that if Quinn was from Kerry the reaction to this would be 10 times more parochial - remember the Listowel rapist). I don't actually see where he's in any way defending Quinn though, he's simply explaining why people in his local area are so parochial about defending him.

While it's easy to understand how wrong they are, it's also very easy to understand why they think that way. At a time when services in rural areas appear to be the primary focus for cut backs, a local businessman who invested heavily in his local area being driven into the ground (and rightly so) by an arm of the state is going to generate this type of reaction.

I don't really see how relevant these protests are and what a few guys like Mickey Harte and Joe Kearnan (who aren't even paying back these Anglo losses in their taxes) have to say about it, or what impact they'll have on anything. This is a legal issue, not a political one.

This is the excerpt from the article,
Separately, Fine Gael MEP and former GAA president Sean Kelly took to his local radio station to praise the people of Ballyconnell for coming out in support of the Quinns.
"I can understand why they're doing it, we'd probably be doing the exact same thing down here in Kerry," he told Radio Kerry.
"If somebody who was very loyal to us . . . was having difficulties we'd probably say listen, while things are difficult for you at the moment, we'll give you moral support."
Mr Kelly could not be reached for further comment last night.


I interpret the words the journalist attributes to him a little different to you but am sure Kelly will have to qualify exactly what he said and means.

Quinn's MO in business was to undercut every one else and create a local monopoly, many say this could not be done without Republican links.

When Quinn extended the business of QI to mainland UK, his troubles began to surface as he did not keep the required reserves and no hiding behind FF connections and very loose regulation could help, AFAIK the State still has a guarantee in place with UK Govt to cover any losses/shortfalls with QI in UK or whatever guise it exists in now.

IMO Quinn wants this to become a political issue and buy/tap into the blind loyalties many supporters hold their own counties in.

The people of Fermanagh do not have to pay the Quinn levy" on their insurance premiums.

The IT article linked above is also a very good read.

People aint dumb, with time and Court evidence will eventually see through Quinn for the stroker he is.

[Boo-boo]

Ah sure dont our murderers, burglars and rapists create employment? Only for them there would be half as many prison wardens.

[Stanley]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0731/qui...ost-1-6bn.html



They will all be in now to feed on the cadaver that is QI, with the full knowledge the Govt will cough up, now they can "borrow" from the markets again, more and more bills for the taxpayer on the never never, my grandkids will have to pay.

Meanwhile Bertie Ahern was drinking Dom Perignon at JP's the other night after returning from a business trip in China, his pension n expenses having been paid as usual, the fupping cnut.

[Grandpasimpson]

Anyone see Quinn on Vinnie B last night? I only caught a few minutes of it.

Edit: Just came across this on thejournal.ie; http://www.thejournal.ie/sean-quinn-...42127-Aug2012/

[taz]

http://www.impartialreporter.com/new...-to-face-jail/

Peter won't go back to face jail

Peter Darragh Quinn intends staying in Northern Ireland and "won't be going back" to face the prospect of jail in the Republic, according to his father, Peter Quinn senior.
In an exclusive interview with the Impartial Reporter, Mr. Quinn says that his son isn't fearful of prison, but believes that he has no chance of getting "fair play or justice" because of the corrupt way the authorities have handled the Quinn case.
While his cousin, Sean Quinn junior is in Mountjoy prison after appearing in court in Dublin on July 20, Peter Darragh Quinn failed to appear at the same court.
He resurfaced in public for the first time in Kinawley on Friday evening for the Fermanagh championship match when he was photographed by a national newspaper alongside his father.
Peter Quinn senior hits out at what he believes is a conspiracy in the Republic against his family and says that although Peter Darragh Quinn is "under a lot of pressure", his family is fully behind his decision to stay in Northern Ireland.

[rua13]

The Shinners are staying very quiet on this one,, Strange that..

[Grandpasimpson]

There was one, Gildernew I think her name is, who issued a statement the other night in support of them but I suppose its a tad unfair if one breaks ranks to paint the whole party.

[Scott]

If I had any bit of respect for these guys, I don't anymore due to their "fu*k off" stance, and it was everyone else fault why they lost so much money foolishly

[Stanley]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion...nt-202885.html



The Quinns dont care, now dragging the GAA in without their consent, Justice Peter Kelly no longer allowing them funds for PR, their style now is indicative of how they got into the smelly stuff in the first place, fup them.

[Old Dog]

There was one, Gildernew I think her name is, who issued a statement the other night in support of them but I suppose its a tad unfair if one breaks ranks to paint the whole party.

She got slapped down pretty soon; first by local SF TD Sleeveen O'Caoláin, then by Mary Loo, and finally by the SF press office.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19086995

[Stanley]

From p.ie today, sums up the gangster Quinn.


Originally Posted by Lar G Rection
This is 100% correct, I worked in insurance for many years and the way Quinn operated caused serious concern within the industry. Many older professionals told me that they expected Quinn to go bust.

Quinn was a premium collection business, and did not give a flying fluck about long-tail. Its not credible that the regulator did not know.


From North Tipp
"Common knowledge Lar. It was incredible to us in the business that they were not being investigated long before. But then as the tiger roared you did what you wanted. if the regulator had bothered, even once, taking a group of Quinn claims employees he would have found quite scary reserving shenanigans going on. Mad stuff. Btw, Sean Quinn didn't run this business single handledly. There were many many involved and some of those now work for other insurance companies still underwriting business and dealng with and in deed overseeing claims handling and reserve setting. Same with PMPA. Some of the chief culprits the are still plying their trade. They just switch their flawed business model to a different company, pick up their nice bonuses for short term gain and when the Shyte hits the fan they move again. Actions should be taken against those individuals."




Would not expect any comment from the Quinn Bros on this.

Maybe now the HC will get on with taking back the dividends from the "kids" while above was going on, including the "ranch" he lives in, but the "kids" own,

[scotscor]

What was hilarious was Charlie Bird on Saturday morning on RTE 1 radio phoning up Sean Kelly, and saying Sean what the hell were you doing going to the get together for the quinns? Sean says I'm going to say something very embarrassing now Charlie, Charlie, I wasn't there I was back home in Kerry at a hurling match. "Oh", followed by another "Oh", followed by something along the lines of "you sure" or so everyone else is making it up?
Before Charlie said right so, bye now.

[Stanley]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0808/sea...-shocking.html


Sean Quinn speaks, personally think it is time for the lads in white coats to take control and tow him off, unisured, to the "Home for the Bewildered", he will be happy there an audience who will enjoy listening to the waffle.

[Stanley]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking41.html


Daughter ans son-in-law on VB TV3 tonight, wonder will they be asked to return the large dividends they received in the last couple of years to reduce the overdraft they helped to create.

Will the GAA be mounting a protest and have a "Gwan you boyo, Yahoo" outside, or have they all dissolved away like Pontious Pilate - eh.

[isola ciarrai]

Is Mr Lar G Rection by any chance related to Mr Hugh Jardon, of this parish?

[Thomond78]

Is Mr Lar G Rection by any chance related to Mr Hugh Jardon, of this parish?

I'm sure Lar G Rection and Hugh Jardon can stand up for themselves...

[Scott]

would these Quinns every just Fupp off and take there medicine, FFS its out there somewhere and it will be found.

[Old Dog]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking41.html


Daughter and son-in-law on VB TV3 tonight, wonder will they be asked to return the large dividends they received in the last couple of years to reduce the overdraft they helped to create.

Daughter in law professed not to know who had paid for her very expensive wedding! Well, Ailish pet, it was us.

Son in law had one point to make and just kept making it. Then Sam read out a twitter that completely contradicted s-i-l's claim!

[Scott]

and on that point the girl loses all fred if she ever had it in the past.