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    Munster were close to missing out on a home HC QF last weekend . How many Euros is the home QF worth to the coffers ofMunster rugby ?

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    €3.68.




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    10 mill to the local economy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Out Wide
    Munster were close to missing out on a home HC QF last weekend . How many Euros is the home QF worth to the coffers ofMunster rugby ?

    You're not from the Revenue now! Are you?

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    Mods, didn't we work out all this out using hard sums a few years back/ Maybe the thread could be resurrected for the benefit of new readers.
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    read an interesting thing about the gunners over the weekend, every
    time they have a match in their home ground it equates to 3 mil in
    revenue. Obviously the figures are smaller for ourselves, but it is
    obviously a hell of a lot of cash

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    I would say about 1M yoyos, between ticket sales, tv revenue, corporate functions etc. Thats is after expenses of course.
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    I wouldn't have thought 1m profit? If you go by 25k by on average 30
    quid ticket that's 750k, then obviously include sponsorship and Tv, but
    expenses include insurance, maintenance etc, if it was 1m profit we
    wouldn't need the IRFU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosh12
    I wouldn't have thought 1m profit? If you go by 25k by on average 30
    quid ticket that's 750k, then obviously include sponsorship and Tv, but
    expenses include insurance, maintenance etc, if it was 1m profit we
    wouldn't need the IRFU!

    Don't forget circa 25k of programmes at €10 a pop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosh12
    I wouldn't have thought 1m profit? If you go by 25k by on average 30
    quid ticket that's 750k, then obviously include sponsorship and Tv, but
    expenses include insurance, maintenance etc, if it was 1m profit we
    wouldn't need the IRFU!
    Why would you not want the IRFU, 1M is the cost of 3 overseas players in the books now?


    On the 1M, you have to take into account additional revenue, like rent from the various stalls, Munster shop, etc. It is close to the 1M.
    If a man tried to take his time on earth and prove before he died what one man's life could be worth, I wonder what would happen to this world

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCloud

    Quote Originally Posted by bosh12
    I wouldn't have
    thought 1m profit? If you go by 25k by on average 30 quid
    ticket that's 750k, then obviously include sponsorship and Tv,
    but expenses include insurance, maintenance etc, if it was 1m
    profit we wouldn't need the IRFU!

    Don't forget circa 25k of programmes at €10 a pop.
    Normally only €4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daforce
    Quote Originally Posted by McCloud


    Quote Originally Posted by bosh12
    I wouldn't have
    thought 1m profit? If you go by 25k by on average 30 quid
    ticket that's 750k, then obviously include sponsorship and Tv,
    but expenses include insurance, maintenance etc, if it was 1m
    profit we wouldn't need the IRFU!


    Don't forget circa 25k of programmes at €10 a pop.


    Normally only €4.

    Not for a q/f I think.
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    TV money is paid to the Union.
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    11,000 x 30 = 330,000
    15,000 x 45 (no idea how many Cat A v Cat B so we'll go with an average) = 675,000.
    So 1,005,000 in ticket sales alone.
    Full corporate boxes too?

    Then there's sponsorship agreements, wasn't it in articles that Toyoto's sponsorship had some nice bonuses for getting further in the HEC? May be similar with smaller sponsors - stadium hordings and such.
    Does the IRFU reward the provinces financially for getting to the QF and beyond?

    Then you look at some of the smaller revenue generators like whatever Masterchef pay the MB, extra gear sales.

    And intangibles like increased awareness of Munster among sponsors/the general public which could drive up potential future sponsorship deals or an increase in those attending ML matches.

    Obviously there'll be expenses like insurance, health and safety, cost of running TP/employing stewards/lighting/heating/Gardai/pre-game entertainment.

    Unfortunately we don't know or couldn't even guess at most of the figures for other revenue generation or expenses but I think it's safe to say that Munster make a packet from it. [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img]


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    The TV money is paid by Sky to the ERC, who then in turn divide it up between unions. I think 1m profit would be an incredible amount for a home HC match, I find it very hard to believe to be honest, but if its true its fantastic, considering Arsenal are talking about 3m profit, with a ground capacity of 60k, more than twice ours, more expensive ticket sales (average price is 50 sterling), a hell of a lot more corporate money etc etc.

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    It'll pay a few salaries. [img]smileys/wink.gif[/img]


    They look like losing out on a home semi in the ML playoffs.

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    It is the most remunerative match of the season for the QF hosts. Toulouse built their training facilities on foot of their home QF's. ERC take the gate from here on in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosh12
    I wouldn't have thought 1m profit? If you go by 25k by on average 30

    quid ticket that's 750k, then obviously include sponsorship and Tv, but

    expenses include insurance, maintenance etc, if it was 1m profit we

    wouldn't need the IRFU!
    Thats exactly what they made on the AB games.
    I would assume that after "corporate commitments" its that figure roughly minus whatever level of loss they lose through tickets that go via that channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCloud

    Quote Originally Posted by bosh12
    I wouldn't have thought 1m profit? If you go by 25k by on average 30
    quid ticket that's 750k, then obviously include sponsorship and Tv, but
    expenses include insurance, maintenance etc, if it was 1m profit we
    wouldn't need the IRFU!

    Don't forget circa 25k of programmes at €10 a pop.
    Some people don't buy a programme or get one for free via corporate tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathal
    Obviously there'll be expenses like insurance, health and safety, cost of running TP/employing stewards/lighting/heating/Gardai/pre-game entertainment.
    Most of these are flat rated throughout the year.
    Pre match entertainment costs very little - Arcana/etc might get paid, but Munster choir definitely don't (and have to source their own tickets) and the soloists generally do not either. I doubt Murty gets paid and AFAIK a lot of other pitch-ground "staffing" is in fact voc**teer effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoegirl
    Quote Originally Posted by McCloud


    Quote Originally Posted by bosh12
    I wouldn't have thought 1m profit? If you go by 25k by on average 30
    quid ticket that's 750k, then obviously include sponsorship and Tv, but
    expenses include insurance, maintenance etc, if it was 1m profit we
    wouldn't need the IRFU!

    Don't forget circa 25k of programmes at €10 a pop.

    Some people don't buy a programme or get one for free via corporate tickets.

    True but then again others buy more then one.
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    Limerick Chamber usually trot out the line, Munster games being worth about €4million to the local economy. Check any of the back issues of the Post or Leader.

    IRFU before the new TP insisted that all QF's be held in LR, wonder if they will do the same from next year? and will Leinster have to move their home Game aginst Clermont to CP?


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    How much money do Munster get from the ERC or sky?





    Just wondering how much Ulster have been missing here by not qualifing

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    Quote Originally Posted by [url="http://limerickleader-thelockerroom.blogspot.com/2009/06/bdo-report-highlights-munsters-value-to.html"
    Limerick Leader[/url]]The study of spending patterns of 445 Ospreys supporters revealed an
    average spend of €527 per visiting supporter</span> which is similar to the
    findings of the Economic Impact Study conducted at the Munster versus
    Wasps pool game where the average spend was €537.</span>
    The Heineken Cup
    quarter final match against Ospreys in April generated €10.5 million
    for Limerick. The direct expenditure from Irish and Welsh supporters
    was €4.194 million</span>. The fixture also resulted in 280 part time jobs
    created over the weekend</span> across local hospitality, food, beverage and
    retail sectors. Local accommodation providers are of one of the major
    beneficiaries with 3912 bednights generated locally for the Ospreys
    match.
    A pre-departure study conducted among Ospreys supporters with
    the assistance of Shannon Development highlighted that the majority of
    visiting supporters focused on the destination as a sporting and rugby.
    Two thirds of the visiting supporters associated the city with Munster
    Rugby, Thomond Park and sport.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big-al


    How much money do Munster get from the ERC or sky?





    Just wondering how much Ulster have been missing here by not qualifing


    Don't think we get money directly from the ERC. The money Munster can generate is through hometickets sales in the group stages and of course getting a home q/f is a massive boost to Munster finances. ERC snaffles the ticket revenue for the semi finals &amp; final.
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    After reading your replies to my question my guess is that the home QF is worth something in the region of 1 million Euroto Munster rugby

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    I was at one of those breakfast talks given by Munster a couple of years agowhere they said the visiting team gets half of the gate income for a q/f. Has this changed? Cant see them getting 1m if they only get half of the gate income

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    I like money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munster Mad
    I was at one of those breakfast talks given by Munster a couple of years agowhere they said the visiting team gets half of the gate income for a q/f. Has this changed? Cant see them getting 1m if they only get half of the gate income

    No I don't think so. They might get a percentage but not half. The 1/4 final is seen by clubs as the oppertunity to make some money.

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    It's great money no matter what the final tally is. Just so long
    as it is spent well.

    Forgot that the programmes for q/f would be dearer.

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