Had a tough Easter in our house. Little fella had vomiting and diorrea for about a week. Very tough going. Had to dribble 5ml water into his mouth every ten minutes. Couldn't take any more and any less and hed have probably ended up on a drip. Came through it in the end but Christ your heart would bleed looking at them in that state. Eyes sunk no enerrgy and no idea why
Of course just as he got better he passes it onto mummy and daddy
Chapeau. Recovery diet of a true champion.Originally Posted by mustermog
"We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow
"Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy
It's horrible. It was flying out both ends of our fella for about four days. The distress and confusion in their face when they don't understand what's happening to them, the look from them that says "make it stop", the feeling of helplessness. Very hard going.
He came down with rotavirus, a heavy cold, a respiratory tract infection and conjunctivitis simultaneously. He was like a fecking experiment.
"We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow
"Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy
He has a few words but is trying to express himself a little more. We've been warned about the terrible twos ...
“Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances.”
glad to hear he's come through all right HR, it's very stressful while it lasts. But kids have amazing powers of recovery, they come back up so quickly TG. You'll probably take a lot longer to recover fully yourselves! Mind you, I kinda like munstermog's diet - 14 lbs lost on gastro, brandy & ginger - better than Weightwatchers any day!.
Ah the poor tyke that sounds cruel feeling sorry for him here our one has never been that misfortunate.
Lads when i have a bad stomach, the smell of the most beautiful food in the world cooking would have me heaving, i blame my parents for the brandy and ginger ale as they use to always give us some when we were sick as kids and they were both tee total. It was great!!! My sister on the morning of her english honours leaving was sick with worry the father gave her a massive measure on the way to school and she came out with an A1 her best result, i think we could all have been serious alco's if it wasn't for the price of the stuff!!!
Everytime our girl see's mum having a glass of wine she is looking for it, watch tat because all kids are mimics, they will watch and copy every thing you do.
I am on night watch-. Damn B and Q had a 4 man tent on offer Fromm 100 down to 30. Now we,re in back garden ready for the night. I am told bear grylls would be disappointed as I have the Samsung tablet as I am still within range of humanity and the house. Oh the fun! The fecking Labrador keeps coming up and nudging the tent. It won't be so funny at 2am. Kiddy fart is no fun in a tent though.:-)
...and Mr. Crow comes on for Mr. Magpie.
I smile when i see this thread resurrected! I started this 3 years ago and the child in question is now 3 and a total nutcase! Since then we've had another boy, now 9 months and our oldest is 7 today! Time flies and it's so strange to read the first post again. Remember people when the night feeds come, they don't last for ever and before you know it your child is turning 7 blowing out candles and kicking your ass at Bowling!!
Karl Spain: "This is better than watching two guys with stutters playing snap!"
Congratulations on the the next two as well! My eldest is 10 and she has a bigger shoe size than me and is tall an getting taller. I wonder will she pass me at 5ft 8". She was 2 months premature too. Yeah, everyone has heard the story of the prem baby who is now a giant. Every good wisher told me the same story of a friend of a friend. Now I wonder will I have my own premature baby turned giant!I swapped out of the tent at sometime past midnight. I was happy and cosy and sound asleep but him that must be obeyed wanted to save me. Still no budge from tent. We watched a movie and then we sat out at dusk watching bats. The 10 year old talked and talked and talked until the little fella and I became unresponsive and even the dog had humped off.When we bought that tent yesterday, I saw 4 others pick it up and buy it. It was a real bargain.
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Can anyone tell me how much crèches are in cork roughly? And child minders?
Trying to decide if it's worth wife's while going back to work. She's not on dol or anything but what I hear suggests she'd want a good wage to make up the costs
I can't speak for Cork, but in Dubland you're looking at about €10 an hour minimum.
Not a lot when you consider it's someone minding your kids but it eats into a salary pretty damn quick.
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A childminder is anywhere from €25-30 per day in Ennis, the upper end of the scale usually includes all food. Can't imagine cork would be much more than that... Crèches are a little more. If you're only putting them in for a few hours here and there it works out a lot more pro rata.
\"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies. My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness\".
Dalai Lama
£1,300 a fecking month in London. The bones of 16 grand a year.
"We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow
"Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy
It really depends. How many kids? What ages? In school? How long will be in creche or minded?
After school care (collection from school and minding until 6:30 latest, but for us usually only about 3 hours or so per day in a Limerick suburban reputable creche with meals and playground and some homework help). We negotiated hard and got €200 fortnightly for one primary school child.
So that's €20 a day for a few hours a day on an economy of scale where it really doesn't cost them much for the one child.
This is a lot cheaper than it used to be. I get the feeling that things have shifted from a provider's market and trying to get a place reserved to being able to be very picky and haggling a better price. The silver lining of the recession.
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THanks. Hes a toddler, 15 months now so will be in the next few months more If at all.
OK. those were reallly questions for you to ask. 15 mos. means all day minding which will be much more expensive. When we were paying for creche all day years ago - it was about the same as the rent! It gets much cheaper when the kid starts school and it's just after school care. You'll have to ring around and get quotes and do the math on whether you're looking at 30 some euros per day or €150+ a week or whatever. Remember you can always negotiate unless there's a waiting list.
Keep in mind - We used to pay a flat monthly charge (12 payments) - then switched to fornightly (=13 months), but negotiated time off and a reduction so we weren't paying for the whole year (many creches will try to lock you into paying all the time to maintain your spot even if you're away on holidays - so get out of that! - All things to keep in mind.
Be very careful and inspect the place if it's a creche - the quality ranges massively!! But the price might be the same!
I was inspecting creches and walked into a well known Limerick Creche that has various branches and I was let in by an 7 year old who jumped up to hit the release switch. I walked around the creche and met some eyes of some minders from behind glass windows, but nobody came to great me. I walked around various corridors for about 3-4 minutes as some children were milling in the halls and couldn't find anyone to talk to nor did I pass a single member of staff. I turned and let myself out and left! Needless to say that place was checked off the list! 'Twas dreadfully frightening actually.
Some people do child minding in their house which seemed more like crowd control rather than childminding. I went through an agency for the first child and got a qualified minder. She was a wonderful person, who stick through with us through hip spica casts and all and she had glowing references from a huge well known creche...until she resumed secretly downing vodka. A very clever alco who was well able to hide it. My gut told me something was wrong and purely on that basis I removed my child one day and never went back. A few years later her neighbour and fellow creche minder confirmed my gut feeling. Sadly, another 2 years later she was pushing daisies as she drank herself to death.
I then went through another agency and got a person willing to come to my house but brought her own toddler. After a few months I realised that I was paying for her to mind her child and then mine. You cannot blame her but it was not what I wanted. SO then I put an advert on a supermarket board. I asked for text replies and I would return call. In my head I wanted someone elses granny and that is what I found. She came to my house and minded mine. I paid her holidays and she would take them weekends too. 8 years later she is still with us.
I do not mean to scare you but there is no wrong way or right way do go about finding a childcare method. You have to find a solution that makes you feel happy and TRUST YOUR GUT!!!!
The other thing is, I work part time and whatever I do not use of my tax credits get transferred to my husband so he can earn more at the lower tax bracket before hitting the next threshold.
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anyone ever use the mahon point drop in creche place on the ground floor?
The catholic church and condoms....?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/reli...ric-shift.html
He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.
I hadn't seen this thread with a while and I got all excited about sharing my news until I saw all this talk of child care costs.
The Mrs and myself are due our first the end of October and while I'm looking forward to the sleepless nights, dirty nappies, having someone new to play with and helping a baby grow to be a child to grow to be an adult, I am very worried about the costs.
You can start getting numbers now, Piggybui, but you sort of get eased into it. My wife and I had a year of reduced income due to her being on maternity leave, so by the time she went back to work and we were paying for childcare we ended up with more cash than we'd adjusted to living on.
You're lifestyle is going to change, and you'll be surprised by how much cash you seem to have when the two of you are out and about a lot less.
I was a bit anal on the budgeting front, but it's well worth doing. Generally, if you're able to afford maternity leave you can afford childcare I'd say.
Well worth sitting down, working out your total income, outgoings and all the rest. It may well be that it's not worth one partner going back to work by the time childcare is covered.
My wife is, essentially, working for a quarter of her previous salary by the time we've paid for childcare. It's still money we need though.
"We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow
"Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy
It's not cheap, thats for sure. I was astonished to when my friend in Dublin told me what he was paying .. way more expensive that what I pay in London. And he has to bring nappies and cream as well.
Congrats, by the way!
Edit .. just to add to Ballas point .... budget is a must alright. Be prepared to take a few hits if it comes down to it e.g the Sky Sports might have to go. Look for deals to bring down your general outgoings e.g. change lecky supplier, phone supplier. It all adds up.
If they are near, and available, roping Granny or Granddad into 1 or 2 days a week is a lifesaver.
One final thing I would add is, as well as the usual with crèches ie. setting, security, educational reports etc look for ones that have extended opening times. Nothing worse than being stuck in traffic knowing on the way to pick up Jr for a 6 pm close, knowing they are going to reef you with charges for being half an hour late.
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“Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances.”
so whats the general age you start them in junior infants these days? is 4 1/2 too young or 5 1/2 too old or do the schools generally recommend/dictate that?
4 1/2 is fine, in general schools in my area will take the kids as long as they are over 4. My own opinion is to hold onto them as close to 5 as possible. My eldest went at 4 yrs 10 mts and adapted fine, but I have seen kids who had just turned 4 when they started and struggled. Not in an intellectual sense, more emotional and physical. Having an extra 6 months at that age can make a big difference.
Finally, I think all the research points towards holding onto them til 5 too. You can look it up though!
\"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies. My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness\".
Dalai Lama
Same issue for us, our little one can either go in at 4 years 5 months or a year later. I hate the idea of sending her into school too young (she'll be in there long enough!) but 5 years 5 months really just sounds too old!
\"In a world gone mad, only a lunatic is truly insane\"
Nearer to 5 the better, especially if it's a boy. We're slower developers when it comes emotions it seems
We're not starting our 3rd until he's 5 1/2. No 2 started when he was 4yrs 10 months, but while he's grand at understanding stuff & the work, he's def behind in maturity and stuff, this can lead to peer teasing etc. No. 1 started again at 4-10 but being a girl she's well clued in
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Number 1 will be 4 or 5 years months. Some teacher relations saying he'd be grand but Im not sure. They're in country schools not city which may make a difference
Enroll them when they are 5 years or over don't do it when they are 4 otherwise at some stage you will need to keep them back a year and then they loose their peers they went to school with.
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Ours were 4 and 10 months and the other was 4 and 4 months and I decided if I need to hold him back then I would do it now rather than in school so he started at 5 years and 4 months. He was academically fine but an emotional roller coaster. He is obviously a full year older than some and it shows. 2 boys in our older girls class are a full year younger and it has been a constant struggle and now in 5th class, the option of holding back a year is becoming a looming decision for the parents.
I also thought to myself that later on maybe schools will struggle and do away with a transition year or some parents will choose not to allow them do it. Getting dumped out the other end of the school system at 17 is too young in my opinion.
The 3rd and final will be 4 and 10 months as well, when she starts. If only we had planned accordingly on the middle one!!
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