The Football Thread.

[Cowboy]

Does Paolo DiCanio giving it the Heil Hitler in his Lazio jersey count as racist?

*got which roman club he played for mixed up

[taz]

Can you name some, perhaps five, of these hundreds that have been racist cheats. I'll start you off, John Terry.

I think he said" Football has always been full of racists and cheats."
If its racists you want in football,then Milan Baros, Ron Atkinson,Luis Aragones,Fritz Korbach+Steve Harkness.Theres five for starters.

[Cowboy]

Maradona was a mighty cheat. As was Grobelaaar...... Actually, those of an older vintage, hadn't he some dealings in scandal of a race nature? (I could be completely wrong on this)

[lactose intolerant]

Does Paolo DiCanio giving it the Heil Hitler in his Lazio jersey count as racist?

*got which roman club he played for mixed up

was a fascist salute, not a Heil Hitler per se!!

He's a fascist, and a massive fan of Mussolini!! Has Dux tattooed on his arm, apparently in tribute to 'Il Duce'

[Cowboy]

was a fascist salute, not a Heil Hitler per se!!

He's a fascist, and a massive fan of Mussolini!! Has Dux tattooed on his arm, apparently in tribute to 'Il Duce'

You learn something every day! I always thought (probably incorrectly) that Roma had a Jewish following and he was inciting them.


Just like Mark Bosnich did (there's another one)

[lactose intolerant]

Emre too....and Sinisa Mihajlovic

[munstershane]

As was Grobelaaar...... Actually, those of an older vintage, hadn't he some dealings in scandal of a race nature? (I could be completely wrong on this)

The only race thing I can remember involving Grobelaar was during the FA cup final with Everton where Liverpool won the league and cup double. Think it was '85. Anyhow Grobs made a really acrobatic save, top drawer, he was probably at his peak then. Anyhow the match commentator made some quip that he probably learnt to jump like that in the jungle or words to that effect. Caused quite a stir at the time if I recall it right.

I can't remember any other race scandal involving Bruce

save is at 4:23 in the video below but I think they cut away in the replay just before the infamous comment.

[exiledinmunster]

Maradona was a mighty cheat. As was Grobelaaar...... Actually, those of an older vintage, hadn't he some dealings in scandal of a race nature? (I could be completely wrong on this)

If memory serves me Grobelaar served with the Government ( white apartheid) forces in the Rhodesian (Zimbabwean) civil? war

[exiledinmunster]

Rio Ferdinand.

[Clubman]

How did d'aul soccer go tonight?

[Benji]

6-1. 100/1 thanks

[Evil Omer]

Maradona was a mighty cheat. As was Grobelaaar...... Actually, those of an older vintage, hadn't he some dealings in scandal of a race nature? (I could be completely wrong on this)

actually if memory serves Grobelaar was anything but a racist

If memory serves me Grobelaar served with the Government ( white apartheid) forces in the Rhodesian (Zimbabwean) civil? war

again, as usual, context is everything. he did MANDATORY national service, (your comment does potentially make it sound like he was chomping at the bit to be let loose to kill blacks)

[Armin Tamzarian]

I always think it's unfair on Big Ron to label him a racist. Sure he's said some stupid things and for all i know he has KKK pyjamas but his actions in playing black footballers like Batson, Regis and Cunnigham and Moses was groundbreaking and probably did more in the long run for black players in England than anyone else.


Also, re Grobelaar he played for Zimbabwe post independence and also coached them I think. Again, I have no idea what his personal prejudices are but he certainly played and coached black players.

[MrsMcGahan]

6-1. 100/1 thanks

The next time Delaneyistan play Der Deutsch it will odds of 6/1 that we're beat 100-1

[Old Dog]

Tomorrow's Sunday Indo reports that the FAI can't afford to sack Herr Trapp, as it would cost them €2m and they are skint!

[taz]

Tomorrow's Sunday Indo reports that the FAI can't afford to sack Herr Trapp, as it would cost them €2m and they are skint!

Yup,common knowledge.But what Mr Delaney is cocking up on is that even less folks will watch them over the next(and last) 2 years of Trap's(Denis O Brien's) contract.

[FORWARD....]

Tomorrow's Sunday Indo reports that the FAI can't afford to sack Herr Trapp, as it would cost them €2m and they are skint!

I don't quite get this. Since Denis O'B is paying him, surely he is the one up for the pay off? And isn't Denis the Chief Senior Editor of the Indo now?

[munsterforever]

michael owen. apparently he thinks that the diving problem in the premiership is due to foreigners, i think hes a foreigner himself funnily enough

[Evil Omer]

michael owen. apparently he thinks that the diving problem in the premiership is due to foreigners, i think hes a foreigner himself funnily enough

I still remember great Leeds chant in his early days, "you're Welsh and you know you are"

[Dumptruck]

Tomorrow's Sunday Indo reports that the FAI can't afford to sack Herr Trapp, as it would cost them €2m and they are skint!

Correct, totally skint, cock up after cock up. Overstating the appetite for people to blindly spend mad money on premium seats and 10 year seats in the Aviva Stadium was just one, then continuing to pay John Delaney a ludicrous salary.

If IRFU aren't careful, they'll be left carrying the FAI can at the Aviva.

[DONC]

Correct, totally skint, cock up after cock up. Overstating the appetite for people to blindly spend mad money on premium seats and 10 year seats in the Aviva Stadium was just one, then continuing to pay John Delaney a ludicrous salary.

If IRFU aren't careful, they'll be left carrying the FAI can at the Aviva.

Given that there sre still plenty of tickets available for the AI's I wouldn't be too sure of the IRFU's ability to carry the can neither.

[99_oK?]

Yup,common knowledge.But what Mr Delaney is cocking up on is that even less folks will watch them over the next(and last) 2 years of Trap's(Denis O Brien's) contract.

But does anyone care when neither the players nor the management seem to? Mr. Trappatoni is on a winner - his own bank balance, everything else has been let go to pot.


Watched some of that humiliation at LR and aside from the difference in footballing skills, the physical and obvious fitness difference was frightening. The Germans were way bigger, quicker and fitter in all aspects. At least in the past we matched (& sometimes dominated) teams physically. Contrast also the way that the Germans wanted the ball while we shied away from tackling; the backing off by Irish players was all too visible even for the 6th goal.

Some credit though for the subs who managed a goal when the game was all over. At least there are a few who seem to care about the jersey. Sad though..........

[lactose intolerant]

But does anyone care when neither the players nor the management seem to? Mr. Trappatoni is on a winner - his own bank balance, everything else has been let go to pot.


Watched some of that humiliation at LR and aside from the difference in footballing skills, the physical and obvious fitness difference was frightening. The Germans were way bigger, quicker and fitter in all aspects. At least in the past we matched (& sometimes dominated) teams physically. Contrast also the way that the Germans wanted the ball while we shied away from tackling; the backing off by Irish players was all too visible even for the 6th goal.

Some credit though for the subs who managed a goal when the game was all over. At least there are a few who seem to care about the jersey. Sad though..........

That whole physical fitness aspect can't be blamed on Trap though in fairness....

[taz]

Time for Ireland v The butchers,the bakers and the candlestick makers.

[Cill na Martra]

Hope Ireland get hammered. We disgraced ourselves in Poland, and deserve nothing less.

Looking at the salries of Trap, Tardelli and Delaney, one can't help but reflect on the Croke Park Agreement, and Enda's refusal to take his own snout out of the trough. Ireland is a mess, run by idiots.

[taz]

Hope Ireland get hammered. We disgraced ourselves in Poland, and deserve nothing less.

Looking at the salries of Trap, Tardelli and Delaney, one can't help but reflect on the Croke Park Agreement, and Enda's refusal to take his own snout out of the trough. Ireland is a mess, run by idiots.

So much scope with that.

[Cowboy]

Is that a plastic pitch?

[fitzy73]

Time for Ireland v The butchers,the bakers and the candlestick makers.

You'd have to give the first half to Ireland on points. Just.

It's all a bit embarrassing though. I've seen (and played in) better Desmond league games ...

[taz]

Is that a plastic pitch?

Artificial yes.

[taz]

You'd have to give the first half to Ireland on points. Just.

It's all a bit embarrassing though. I've seen (and played in) better Desmond league games ...

It is dire...