Probably terrilarious.Originally Posted by rathbaner
Probably terrilarious.
Never mind perception because it isn’t real. It’s only what people think. Go out and make them think something else. Alan Quinlan Irish Times April 24th 2013
McGahan's appointment was greeted with an entirely reasonable sense of optimism (mixed with relief) considering that two of the alternatives seemed to be Michael Bradley, who had done little with Connacht to encourage faith in him and is still "in transition" with Edinburgh today, or (gulp) Eddie O'Sullivan.
Some prescience there rb!!
Never mind perception because it isn’t real. It’s only what people think. Go out and make them think something else.
- Alan Quinlan on believing in yourself
Frighteningly prophetic BUT then POM, Butler, Dougall etc stepping up is a nice relief.
In terms of McGahan I think you're partly right that a lot of people were relieved not to see those alternatives but I also think a lot of us did voice concerns about lack of experience and his closeness with squad and Kidney. I do wonder how much TMG was undone by Fischer's nonsense time and the possibility (or appearance) that maybe LF was pulling the reigns a bit originally?
\"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"
McGahan seemed a good choice at the time - I didn't post on that thread but I would have said something like that. What's slightly disturbing is the tendency to think's the player's opinion was "the most important thing" .... That certainly wasn't the case with RP's appointment.
"Playing against ROG, your big game plan is to try and pressure him but he’d dump it off to Wally and next thing you’re five metres behind the gain line because he was an absolute freak." Rory Best, Irish Examiner, May 2012
So that must mean if I write that Penney is doing a fantastic job, he'll end up as shiite as McGahan ..... be very afraid.
Whether Penney got the anointment from the players this time or not, is a side issue when you look back on it (though better that he isn't dependent on them). The last time McGahan had gone from Defence coach to Backs coach, performing well in both, it was reasonable to think that he should get his chance to move up (how else does someone move up otherwise).
The real issue is when it became clear that he was out of his depth as a Head Coach, Munster Rugby rewarded him with a contract extension, and even worse, they were prepared to offer him a further one. Penney has come in on the back of an excellent Head Coach track record, and again you would think that it augurs well, especially having started well, but we've really played no one of substance yet, and he is only at the start of changing how Munster plays. I'm waiting for the baseline match of Leinster next month and then we can have a good look at the return match in TP next March, to see how far we have come along (hopefully).
Very reasonable comment there, Point - it is of course better to take the long view.
Having said that, at least the early signs of Penney's regime are promising and I really am enjoying watching the changes in our play. I'm not a religious man, but I'm happy to "have faith" that this is the start of a change in our fortunes rather than the temporary honeymoon period that often happens with a new coach.
Never mind perception because it isn’t real. It’s only what people think. Go out and make them think something else.
- Alan Quinlan on believing in yourself
I'm just enjoying the rugby.
Otaga Daily Times 2/5/2012
Taz-Where did you get that information as I have seen nowhere that he(Penney) was ruled out?
Editor - The writer stands by the Penney information.
Otaga Daily Times 3/5/2012
Editor-- This article originally said Rob Penney had missed out on the Munster coaching job. That information was incorrect.
I am enjoying the rugby too taz, I had just forgot what it was like to play proper heads up rugby and use the full squad, I still question why the senior players stayed so quiet
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Lest we ever forget.
How the same people managed to hire Rob Penney is mind boggling.
Its far too early to conclude that there were underlying terminal problems in the McGahan regime that have been instantly fixed by Penney. Bearing in mind McGahan actually won this league so however impressive Penney has been so far his real tests haven't even begun yet.
No one of substance? You've already played both an HEC finalist and an HEC semi-finalist from 5 months ago!
Last season, Munster both could and should have beaten Leinster in the Aviva (although not in Thomond). And this season, it's going to happen. Injury hit Leinster haven't gelled at all yet so, for me, it's Munster's game to lose.
A combination of injuries and the ageing process has meant that the Blue Lions have morphed into lambs and are on their way to the slaughterhouse, I fear. And not even all of the fireworks and loud rock music in the world can make Leinster play any better in the Aviva; plus Connacht will beat us up, as usual, next Friday (although I expect us to sneak that one), so we'll probably have a few more out with injuries.
Stop down playing expectation, you'll have me sending a get well soon card to Leinster next !
Until they are deposed, Leinster are still the standard. And I would follow them with Clermont and Toulouse.
It's REALLY misleading (and scary) seeing this thread on the headline page, resurrected after 4 or so years. Any chance people can just create a new one?
Create a new one!!!! Don't you know there's a recession on man!!!!
“People are broad-minded. They'll accept the fact that a person can be an alcoholic, a dope fiend, a wife beater and even a newspaperman, but if a man doesn't drive, there's something wrong with him.” - Art Buchwald
I think having these threads around is good in that we can look back at what's happened since. There was one on Cusack that popped up a while back that showed how things went from next bright thing in 2009 to being released in 2012. Was strange to chart that progress.
\"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"
Still much too early to say how we'll do this season (and beyond) - but, despite that, I'm really enjoying watching Munster this season.
The excitement is back, I find I can't wait for the next match, and it's great to see so many new/young players getting moulded into a strong team. Where it'll take us who knows at this point, but the rebuilding has begun in earnest and I like it so far
I haven't taken my Christmas lights down. They look so nice on the pumpkin
Now do you believe me?
A backlash will be inevitable next week. That being said, if Leinster try forcing things to the same extent as they did tonight - especially in the 2nd half - it could be another bad night at the office for them.
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My view is they peaked last season although they will make h cup semis.
I doubt it. They're a team in decline and the injury count is mounting by the week. A run in the Amlin would be nice though. Especially with the final being in the RDS!
For me, it's Ulster's HEC to lose this season, barring a cruel semi-final draw.
Might want to take that confidence down to the bookies considering they're 20/1 and behind 10 other teams.
What sort of bait are you currently using in West Cork as they definitely are biting sir?
Otaga Daily Times 2/5/2012
Taz-Where did you get that information as I have seen nowhere that he(Penney) was ruled out?
Editor - The writer stands by the Penney information.
Otaga Daily Times 3/5/2012
Editor-- This article originally said Rob Penney had missed out on the Munster coaching job. That information was incorrect.
Their only really tough HEC pool game will be away to the Saints - and that's winnable So they've a guaranteed home QF and with a "home" Final, if they get there, it's the semi final draw that will determine their fate.
(Is Pienaar back for the opening HEC games?)
They've only served to wake them from their slumber !
They're not sleeping - they're dead.
Last Rites next Saturday in Le Stade des Morts, commencing at 18.30 hours. No flowers please.
And I thought deep depression in the south-west was a meteorological term...
Vorsprung durch Pfennig.
Hmmm..... oh how wrong you were !
I sure was. In fairness, Munster must have been pretty poor, although I gather that ye rallied well after we had lost McLoughlin, BOD, Nacewa and Conway to injury. It could turn out to be an expensive win if some or all of the above are crocked - especially with Exeter really stuffing the Quins yesterday.
I'm kind of sorry that I didn't bother to watch it now. But the Leeds - Wire Final was a cracker - and the right team won!
Yes we did, but bear in mind you already had injury problems going into the match !
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