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    Was she murdered? Was it a tragic accident? Was she pregnant? Where did that white car that clipped the Merc go? Do you care?





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    An official UK police inquiry into the Paris car crash which killed Princess Diana and Dodi Al Fayed has found no evidence the couple were murdered.
    Lord Stevens, who led the three-year investigation, said the crash was a "tragic accident".


    The inquiry report said chauffeur Henri Paul, who also died, was speeding and over the legal drink-drive limit.


    The princess, 36, and Mr Al Fayed, 42, died when their Mercedes crashed in the Pont de l'Alma tunnel in August 1997.



    Part of the inquiry's remit has been to investigate the conspiracy theories.


    The findings - contained within an 832 page document - form part of the inquest, due to resume next year, into the deaths of the couple.


    Lord Stevens told a news conference in London the report addresses the key issues emerging from a "most complex and challenging" investigation.



    Lord Stevens said he hoped the report would bring "some closure"


    "I have no doubt that speculation as to what happened that night will continue and that there are some matters, as in many other investigations, about which we may never find a definitive answer.


    "However, I do not believe that any evidence currently exists that can substantiate the allegation of conspiracy to murder that has been made."


    Princess Diana was not engaged or about to get engaged and was not pregnant, he said.


    Some 400 people, including Prince Charles, the Duke of Edinburgh and the heads of MI5 and MI6, were interviewed by the inquiry.


    Referring to claims by Dodi's father, Mohamed al Fayed, the report said there was no evidence of a connection between the Duke of Edinburgh and MI6.



    Mr Stevens said the various legal cases currently being pursued by Mr Al Fayed through the French courts are "unlikely, in my opinion, to have any bearing on my conclusion that there was no conspiracy or cover up".


    He said: "I very much hope that all the work we have done and the publication of this report will help to bring some closure to all who continue to mourn the deaths of Diana, Princess of Wales, Dodi Al Fayed and Henri Paul."


    The crash took place as the couple were pursued by paparazzi photographers during the drive from the Ritz hotel to Mr Al Fayed's flat.


    A French investigation into the crash concluded Mr Paul had lost control of the car because he was driving too fast while under the influence of alcohol and prescription drugs.
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    If her name was A. N. Other would there be such an interest. Car travelling at high speed through a tunnel goes out of control all killed. No mystery there.
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    theres one thing for sure the outcome of the report as "tragic accident" was as predictable as night follows day.

    course she was murdered-even an idiot can see that


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    Who cares...

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    Quote Originally Posted by munsterforever
    course she was murdered-even an idiot can see that
    Pretty elaborate way to go about things and depends on so many coincidence.

    Personally I don't give a damn, I despise the idea of royalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffMatt
    Who cares...

    Quite a lot of people CM. Not for a second am I saying I agreed with all her "causes", and I believe she was extremely media savvy, but ....


    She was a light in an otherwise dark British establishment. Despite her faults, she stood up to the Royal family, had a history of being a bit of an outsider, and was passionate about charitable causes.


    Frankly, I admired her, but do think her death was a tragic accident. Those photographers who took pictures of her dying should be, imho, strung up - not because she was a Princess, but because she was human.
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    I'm with Fitzy on this.



    She got a raw deal on life.


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    What I should have said was...who cares now, nearly 10 years later. The only person who would have cared would have been the publicity seeking Sloane herself. It must give her great pleasure that even after all this time there are still investigations into what was, in effect, a car crash.


    If only she had worn a seatbelt then none of this pulaver would be going on...

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    Was she married to the one with th ears or the jaw?


    One can never be quite sure on this matter.
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    Rough deal to the extent that she had an unhappy marriage and died young.


    On all the other stuff, I'd say she did fairly well.


    I have to admit, much as it bothers me, I do care. Not becuase of a fixation with her, but becuase I think it would be nice to know if there are people going about killing anybody who threatens to be a bit awkward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermot G
    I'm with Fitzy on this.

    She got a raw deal on life.

    Raw deal? seriously?
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    There are far more credible conspiracytheorys than this one. People get killed in accidents with drunk drivers all the time. If the British Intelligence Service masterminded the whole thing. Then they are cleverer then we give them credit for.

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    Had little time for her (or any of the royals) in life and even less ten years after her death. I do object to the amount of taxpayers' money wasted on a two-year inquest that won't make a hap'orth of difference in shutting up Al-Fayad and the conspiracy theorists.

    My heart sank when I heard about the pop concert being arranged to celebrate her 10th anniversary and not just at the bland quality of the music being suggested.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyFantastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Dermot G
    I'm with Fitzy on this.

    She got a raw deal on life.

    Raw deal? seriously?


    Yep. To use BB's words..."Rough deal to the extent that she had an unhappy marriage and died young".






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    //->I always thought the whole conspiracy theory thing was a bit far fetched. The only thing that bugged me at the time was why it took so long for her to reach the hospital.


    I saw a documentary about the tragedy recently and apparently the ambulance crew stopped several times alont the route to the hospital to give CPR. The ambulance also had to travel very slowly.


    Verdict: Tragic accident and a tragic loss.

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    To see any mother die young is awful. Because she was a Princess, some people feel a lot less sympathy for her and her family, which is a shame.


    Genuinely, I think she was different form the rest of the Royals.


    But what freaks me out, from a personal viewpoint, is that it is nearly ten years ago. Where have the years gone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by munsterforever

    course she was murdered-even an idiot can see that
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    Maybe it's only idiots who think that. I would love to see the Royal Family hung out to dry for something like this but, no mystery here.
    "This was the performance Ireland had been threatening all championship but had only managed to produce in fits and starts. Defeats at the hands of France and Wales had put paid to their title aspirations, never mind a Grand Slam, but yesterday’s emphatic 24-8 win shows that this is a team moving in the right direction."

    The Irish Times after Ireland beat England at Lansdowne Road on 19/03/11

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitzy73

    To see any mother die young is awful. Because she was a Princess, some people feel a lot less sympathy for her and her family, which is a shame.


    Genuinely, I think she was different form the rest of the Royals.


    But what freaks me out, from a personal viewpoint, is that it is nearly ten years ago. Where have the years gone!
    I think it was the implication that because she was a good-looking princess we should feel more sympathy that got me. The mass hysteria was startling and hard to fathom. I did/do feel sorry for her children and her family, but not more than I feel for a co-worker today, who has lost her 24 year old son-in-law to a brain tumour.

    But your final point - can't disagree with that. I demand a recount, it can't possibly be ten years!

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    Ten years


    If it was a conspiracy it was a rubbish one, in that people are still wondering about it.


    I stand by my original theory: she robbed a flag and Serge Blanco had her done in.
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    10 years? My dog is older then I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Cat~

    But your final point - can't disagree with that. I demand a recount, it can't possibly be ten years!

    It's tough to believe that it has been almost ten years alright. I remember being in my living room watching earthworm jim when a big "Breaking News" text telling me to switch to BBC appeared on the screen. Never having seen one of these before I was obviously excited as to what it could be, so I waited 10 minutes for earthworm jim to finish, obviously, and then switched over to see the beginning of that truly overblown outpouring of grief.


    What's even more worrying is how little has changed in 10 years.[img]smileys/lol.gif[/img]
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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffMatt
    Who cares...
    ditto..........
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    I remember being in my living room watching earthworm jim when a big "Breaking News" text telling me to switch to BBC appeared on the screen....I waited 10 minutes for earthworm jim to finish, obviously

    Earthworm Jim [img]smileys/thumb-up.gif[/img] A true classic (and if I was slightly more of a bollix I'd say that IMHO the loss of EJ was a greater blow to the world at large than the loss of PD [img]smileys/wink.gif[/img])
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    yeah ,tragix c death and all and you have to feel sorry for hwer family,however im not too pushed about thw hwole thing sinse,its equivalent to if i heard tomorrow that the prince of spain died,id be surprised,but it wouldnt worry me 10 years later

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitzy73


    But what freaks me out, from a personal viewpoint, is that it is nearly ten years ago. Where have the years gone!


    Yes funny how I remember that weekend as though it was yesterday. But cant remember a lot of what happened last weekend[img]smileys/lol.gif[/img]

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    Two things came out of this death and unfortunately neither of them lasted much more than a week after the funeral: A healthy hatred of the tabloid press and their methods of reporting and a healthy hatred on the royal family for keeping their heads down. In fact, the Queen shed more tears when the royal yatch was decommissioned than she did for her grandkids mother. What a horrible shower they are including jug head who the press have pulled out all the stops to get people to accept him again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie


    Two things came out of this death and unfortunately neither of them lasted much more than a week after the funeral: A healthy hatred of the tabloid press and their methods of reporting and a healthy hatred on the royal family for keeping their heads down. In fact, the Queen shed more tears when the royal yatch was decommissioned than she did for her grandkids mother. What a horrible shower they are including jug head who the press have pulled out all the stops to get people to accept him again.


    Spot on mate.
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