Munster v Leinster next weekend

[rathbaner]

Until the ML is revamped, its a worthless league in the grand scheme of things



All in all, no matter what happens, it will be a bit of a comedown after last weekend....

Wrong and wrong again.

ML is a very worthwhile league, as the last 8 of the HEC shows.
I think Munster, Leinster Hairsprays, Cardiff and Edinburgh at least could survive easily enough in the GP or the French Top 40!

We'd be lost without it, how would you bait Epaddy or LZ if you were depending on a HEC meeting every five or six years - cos that's how often Leinster would get to the Semis.

[Mucbeag]

Yeah, Munster man here, yeah, read D'Indo and "The Oirish Toymes" too! surprise surprise. (Condescending ****!) I thought it was just a fairly accurate description of the events in the metaphoric, emotive type prose typical of Thornley. I wonder why you were sooo terribly sickened...??? No Really? Why?

Ah, don't really want to get into it here, but it's the constant fawning over Munster by the media. I mean credit where credit is due, Munster have a cracking record but this is just a sample of the Grade A shlte Thornley regails us with: "IRISH RUGBY is alive and throbbing again, and once more the debt to the mighty men of Munster is immense."


I mean come on! Throbbing????


I know it's offside to say it,but while I would like all Irish sides to do well, if Munster had lost at the weekend, it would have barely registered on my radar. The only teams I care about are Leinster and Irelandso to say that the rest of Irish rugby is in debt to Munster is complete b****x. But Thornley's raison d'etre is to pander to the red masses. It is week in and week outand if you're not part of that clique, it's immensely irritating. It's the same with the Tony Wards, Neil Francises and Dave Kellys of this world. As journalists, they've lost all perspective, probably at the behest of their paymasters, and definitely to sell more papers.


Take a step back lads. It went beyond a joke about 5 years ago. Now it's a national joke that only Ulster, Connacht and Leinster rugby supportersseem to get.


Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I have to say I am surprised that Munster would be happy to lose to Leinster twice in one season for a mere cut at the Heineken Cup, especially considering the vitriol spewed out in our direction on these and other pages.

[munsterbouy]

Yeah, Munster man here, yeah, read D'Indo and "The Oirish Toymes" too! surprise surprise. (Condescending ****!) I thought it was just a fairly accurate description of the events in the metaphoric, emotive type prose typical of Thornley. I wonder why you were sooo terribly sickened...??? No Really? Why?

Ah, don't really want to get into it here, but it's the constant fawning over Munster by the media. I mean credit where credit is due, Munster have a cracking record but this is just a sample of the Grade A shlte Thornley regails us with: "IRISH RUGBY is alive and throbbing again, and once more the debt to the mighty men of Munster is immense."


I mean come on! Throbbing????


I know it's offside to say it,but while I would like all Irish sides to do well, if Munster had lost at the weekend, it would have barely registered on my radar. The only teams I care about are Leinster and Irelandso to say that the rest of Irish rugby is in debt to Munster is complete b****x. But Thornley's raison d'etre is to pander to the red masses. It is week in and week outand if you're not part of that clique, it's immensely irritating. It's the same with the Tony Wards, Neil Francises and Dave Kellys of this world. As journalists, they've lost all perspective, probably at the behest of their paymasters, and definitely to sell more papers.


Take a step back lads. It went beyond a joke about 5 years ago. Now it's a national joke that only Ulster, Connacht and Leinster rugby supportersseem to get.


Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I have to say @@@@SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">I am surprised that Munster would be happy to lose to Leinster twice in one season for a mere cut at the Heineken Cup,@@@@/SPAN> especially considering the vitriol spewed out in our direction on these and other pages.

And leinster would'nt ???

[rathbaner]

sad state of affairs when people are talking about more or less throwing a top of the table clash against of biggest rivals.


... same guys giving out then when the Welsh want to jump into bed with the English citing our lack of interest in it .....


I think the yanks call it 'flip flopping' on issues

Agree 100%. And it'd stick in my craw to hand it to Leinster. If they do the double over us fair enough but I'd love to see them hammered at the RDS then even if they win the title at least we'll have a smug and knowing smile.


And the European Cup maybe!

[danthefan]

Plenty of excuses in early in this thread. The ML is not a good league compared to others but the Leinster - Munster games are probably the biggest games of the season in the league, and I can't believe some people won't take it seriously. If you send half a team down it's exactly why you're not the best team in Europe.

[toomey]

@@@@SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">I am surprised that Munster would be happy to lose to Leinster twice in one season for a mere cut at the Heineken Cup,@@@@/SPAN> [img]smileys/lol.gif[/img]Good One..


I would play Micko for DOC, Ronan for Wally (if Injured) Mushy for Bull.

[Mack05]

Its Leinster lads in the ML, who cares after what happened Saturday..Everytime I see a great Munster victory and Leinster underachieve in the competition that truly matters I thank the lord I was born in Munster.I can honestly admit while I should have an interest in the Celtic league, I woulds get little satisfaction in winning it and have a far more interest in the AIL..We should just use this match as a tune up for the semi. Let the babies have their rattles..We have bigger fish to fry and these L'boys' are not in our league when it comes to trophies that really matter..

[Drahcir]

I sense another Munster - Leinster b***h fight on the cards.

[danthefan]

I sense another Munster - Leinster b***h fight on the cards.

Does it ever stop?

[Aussiedub]

Its Leinster lads in the ML, who cares after what happened Saturday..Everytime I see a great Munster victory and Leinster underachieve in the competition that truly matters I thank the lord I was born in Munster.I can honestly admit while I should have an interest in the Celtic league, I woulds get little satisfaction in winning it and have a far more interest in the AIL..We should just use this match as a tune up for the semi. Let the babies have their rattles..We have bigger fish to fry and these L'boys' are not in our league when it comes to trophies that really matter..

So your saying that Munster are far inferior to Wasps/Leicster/Toulouse etc who compete in teh HC and in their own league and that they don't have the squad to compete for 2 tournaments???

[Drahcir]

And we're off..

[scotscor]

it means a lot to me, I've bought a few of their ridiculously over
priced tickets, and I hope Munster play a full strength side against
them, and play the subs the following week against the Ospreys.

If we can win, which we should be able to with a full strength side we have a realistic chance of a double, that would be tasty

[Ruck]

Anyone who wants Munster to field a second string team against their biggest rivals wants their head examined. I want us to beat them so bad that it'll damage them for the rest of the season.

[scotscor]

I sense another Munster - Leinster b***h fight on the cards.

Does it ever stop?

It was pretty peaceful for the last week dan

[Jollygreengiant]

Now that we have seen Kidney knew when where and how to blood young talent with Dennis Hurley, i hope we will all give him a break re Earls. Another Cork based back makes the breakthrough, even if he is a Royal County Star. Not going to start an argument now or anything.

[Jenta]

Anyone who wants Munster to field a second string team against their biggest rivals wants their head examined. I want us to beat them so bad that it'll damage them for the rest of the season.

We're not playing Toulouse 'til May though.





But on a serious note, the ticket for this game is costing me €25, so in the absence of some sort of free bar to justify such madness I'd like to see us send out our strongest team and smash them, I mean really humiliate them, I'm talking so bad that the RDS is demolished and in its place is built a monument to the Munster starting XV on which there is a plaque which reads:


"Saturday 12th April 2008, the only time in a rugby match when even the ref lost count of the score."


Only then would €25 seem worth it.


We can scale back and play a second string team against those small time nobodies in the Liberty the week after.

[Drahcir]

I always want Munster to beat Leinster no matter what competition it's in or what matches are nearby. The team I'd like to see is:

1. Puc (I'm assuming Horan's out)
2. Flannery
3. Buckley
4. DOC
5. MOD
6. Quinlan
7. Ronan
8. Foley (Leamy on after 50 minutes)

9. TOL ( nothing against Stringer but TOL appears to be first choice for semi-final and needs game time)
10.ROG

11. Dowling
12. Mafi
13. Tipoki
14. Howlett
15. Hurley

[Ruck]

Anyone who wants Munster to field a second string team against their biggest rivals wants their head examined. I want us to beat them so bad that it'll damage them for the rest of the season.

We're not playing Toulouse 'til May though.

I was of course talking about our biggest Magner's league rivals. Leinster don't enter my mind when I think of the Heineken Cup.

[Mack05]

Its Leinster lads in the ML, who cares after what happened Saturday..Everytime I see a great Munster victory and Leinster underachieve in the competition that truly matters I thank the lord I was born in Munster.I can honestly admit while I should have an interest in the Celtic league, I woulds get little satisfaction in winning it and have a far more interest in the AIL..We should just use this match as a tune up for the semi. Let the babies have their rattles..We have bigger fish to fry and these L'boys' are not in our league when it comes to trophies that really matter..

So your saying that Munster are far inferior to Wasps/Leicster/Toulouse etc who compete in teh HC and in their own league and that they don't have the squad to compete for 2 tournaments???


Stupid comment from a man that knows little about Rugby..If we could aim for a top 4 place in the ML we would win it a lot more. Wasps and Leicester always come late in nthe season in the playoffs but rarely top the league..

[toomey]

Anyone who wants Munster to field a second string team against their biggest rivals wants their head examined. I want us to beat them so bad that it'll damage them for the rest of the season.

We're not playing Toulouse 'til May though.

I was of course talking about our biggest Magner's league rivals. Leinster don't enter my mind when I think of the Heineken Cup.

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[LZ]

if munster are even remotely interested in beating leinster we would whip them out the park

Keep this up, guys! [img]smileys/lol.gif[/img][img]smileys/lol.gif[/img][img]smileys/lol.gif[/img][img]smileys/lol.gif[/img][img]smileys/lol.gif[/img]

[Skyhawk]

Anyone who wants Munster to field a second string team against their biggest rivals wants their head examined. I want us to beat them so bad that it'll damage them for the rest of the season.

Agree 100% and after paying €50 for a ticket, I certainly want to see our best team walk all over Leinster [img]smileys/razz.gif[/img]

[LZ]

LEINSTER:
15: Girvan Dempsey
14: Shane Horgan
13: Brian O’Driscoll CAPTAIN
12: Gordon D’Arcy
11: Rob Kearney
10: Felipe Contepomi
9: Guy Easterby


1: Ollie le Roux
2: Bernard Jackman
3: Stan Wright
4: Leo Cullen
5: Malcolm O’Kelly
6: Stephen Keogh
7: Shane Jennings
8: Jamie Heaslip


Much the same way this team got there ass's handed to them by Edinburagh is it?

Fourteen of those guys gave your side, who played their strongest possible side for the match,a right old beating down in Cork earlier in the season, you clown.Always good for a laugh you are, Busbi.

[danthefan]

Munsterfans also won't seem to acknowledge Embra gave them a good beating in Thomond last year. 10-21. Was a strong Munster side too.

I'm still mystified as to how the best fans in the world (tm) can take a big game so lightly.

[Cathal]

And we've since beaten them home and away this season.

I think you've over-estimating the importance of this game to us.
I'll support whatever DK does for this, some players may need a rest or
have niggles and I see no point risking them in a nothing game when
we have a game the week after which could be used to give them a run
out.

[Ruck]

A nothing game? Are you for real?

[Skyhawk]

Munsterfans also won't seem to acknowledge Embra gave them a good beating in Thomond last year. 10-21. Was a strong Munster side too.

I'm still mystified as to how the best fans in the world (tm) can take a big game so lightly.

And tbh, Dan, so am I [img]smileys/confused.gif[/img]

[Skyhawk]

And we've since beaten them home and away this season.

I think you've over-estimating the importance of this game to us.
I'll support whatever DK does for this, some players may need a rest or
have niggles and I see no point risking them in a nothing game when
we have a game the week after which could be used to give them a run
out.

[img]smileys/shock.gif[/img]Christ Cathal, I seriously hope you are wumming.....

[scotscor]

If we win this game, we have a huge chance of the double. I think that
should be our aim at the start of every season. Sure the eastern
knockerswould find something else to moan about,

[danthefan]

If we win this game, we have a huge chance of the double. I think that
should be our aim at the start of every season. Sure the eastern
knockerswould find something else to moan about,

I'd be suitably impressed (in secret) if you won the double.