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    Rail and sail Pixie? Often helped me out of a...

    Rail and sail Pixie? Often helped me out of a tight/pricey spot getting home.
  2. Thread: Gay cakes

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    It was both - sexual orientation and political...

    It was both - sexual orientation and political belief.

    I can see where they're coming from, but it does strike me as a very forceful application of discrimination law.
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    Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Both of those boys...

    Jesus, Mary and Joseph.

    Both of those boys will grow to be serial killers.

    Nailed on.
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    The "political and religious opinions" bit is...

    The "political and religious opinions" bit is interesting. That would definitely imply that a nationalist baker couldn't refuse to bake a Union Jack cake.
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    He was a city lawyer before going into politics...

    He was a city lawyer before going into politics afaik. But only for a few years.

    Mother was a solicitor, grandfather was a QC (and a Sir).

    My punt would be a bit of salary and a bit of buy to...
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    Is cape town worse than joburg? I always had the...

    Is cape town worse than joburg? I always had the impression it was the other way around.

    Either way, SA is testament to the fact that there's only so unequal a society can become before people...
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    Yes. And no. Firstly, I'm not arguing. This is...

    Yes. And no.

    Firstly, I'm not arguing. This is simply the case, proven repeatedly.

    When an economy has slipped into recession/depression/implosion, it is too late to save t by tightening the...
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    Because they didn't need another source of money....

    Because they didn't need another source of money. That money was coming from the Troika.

    The sequence you describe as "stop buying toys and start taxing" was an economic miscalculation of historic...
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    Turns out the most shocking thing about Chuka is...

    Turns out the most shocking thing about Chuka is that there's nothing shocking about Chuka.

    I'd have staked good money on a story by now.
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    But they were lent money, weren't they? And in...

    But they were lent money, weren't they? And in exchange for that money the Troika imposed conditions that inhibited their ability to recover.

    You're persisting with the implied belief that...
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    It is if they're paying higher taxes and...

    It is if they're paying higher taxes and receiving poorer state services in an economy that's already offering them next to zero interest on their savings.

    Inflation is a perfectly sensible way...
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    I don't ignore it. I'm sure there are very good...

    I don't ignore it. I'm sure there are very good reasons of expediency that have driven otherwise sensible people to impose years of nonsensical bull**** on a whole continent.
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    Because it's exports have been strong enough to...

    Because it's exports have been strong enough to stave off the hit on domestic demand, it has a significant base of multinationals attracted by its tax structures and it exported a fair number of the...
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    [QUOTE=barleys chinos;1498328] Lifestyles?

    Lifestyles?
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    And the right are great at tough talking "common...

    And the right are great at tough talking "common sense" approaches that don't actually work in a world that is more complex than they wish it to be.

    There was only one way to turn around the Greek...
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    When in reality they're just people who want to...

    When in reality they're just people who want to deny a certain segment of society equality before the law based on their sexuality.

    I suppose all those non-homophobic arguments for discrimination...
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    And it just happened to go pop at the time of the...

    And it just happened to go pop at the time of the international banking crisis?

    I'm only having to repeat that austerity doesn't work because it seems to be a concept that people are refusing to...
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    Austerity massively delayed recovery in Ireland,...

    Austerity massively delayed recovery in Ireland, Spain and Italy. Even the IMF now admits that they were wrong about austerity and its impacts.
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    What part of "austerity doesn't work" is it that...

    What part of "austerity doesn't work" is it that causes people such difficulty?

    GDP declines. The welfare bill goes up. And debts rise faster, and become a higher percentage of a shrunken economy....
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    They ****ed up what? The implementation of the...

    They ****ed up what? The implementation of the prescribed austerity that has demonstrably been a catastrophe for their economy?

    The price extracted for that support was their economic ruination.
    ...
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    They lost 25% of their GDP. The Troika's...

    They lost 25% of their GDP.

    The Troika's programme was a wholesale catastrophe.
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    The jury is not out on austerity. Greece's...

    The jury is not out on austerity. Greece's creditors beggared it through blind ideological imposition of an economically incompetent philosophy.

    Now they demand whatever the remnants of a Greek...
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    But they weren't. Financial institutions...

    But they weren't. Financial institutions significantly underestimates the risks attached to them, and state debt became the great no risk bet. And it turned out they were wrong. Largely because, as...
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    I just feel all of it is irrelevant. If you lend...

    I just feel all of it is irrelevant. If you lend to a business and it goes bust you get covered to the extent of the limited liability. The first principle to be maintained here, for me at least, is...
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    They lent money, for profit, to states because...

    They lent money, for profit, to states because they thought it was a risk free bet. They lost. They should accept the consequences.

    There is no collective responsibility on the greek people for...
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