Turn Magners lge nights into occasions

[Jollygreengiant]

I've been thinking about this for a while and know it was tried at HEC level with little success. I think players in a way have been unfairly criticised as regards the commitment and skill levelthey are showing in a red jersey on these nights. I am wondering what motiviation is like for these players? A lot of them realistically arent going to get into this years HEC squad although maybe in the future. They are going out every weekend and getting berated for their performances. Whats their motivation and confidence like? Iknowyou'd say motivation should always be there but if Brazil got as many beatings in a comp as we have in the last year they wouldnt be highon confidenceeither.We all know and worship the red jersey but maybe its time for us as supporters and members of the MRSC to try and turn these nights into more memorable occasions and make these players feel as if what they are doing or trying to do for thier province is appreciated. I have been going to Celtic League matches for the last 3-4 years and the only one that any sort of atmosphere was the match against the Blues in Thomond last year and that was a match that didnt matter in the ML sense. It was a celebration.


I think that our ability to compete in this league is also a major PR job for oversees signings as well. I they see that they are only going to be playing in a competitive team when the internationals are there, they may not want to sign for 10 games a year (depending on the player).


My suggestion is this. Why couldnt we, just for one match this year and maybe the Ospreys match is too close, market it as a family occasion. You may say its not up to us but i feel we could do a lot and be seen to make an effort to help our ML team.


Maybe get a band in before the match to get the supporters going have the usual songs going over the PA before the match. I think crowds have been encouraging its just if they could open their mouths..


Maybe run a competition for HEC tickets.


Maybe have a draw for pieces of concrete or seats or whatever as memorabilia of the ground hwen she closes for a face lift (maybe a bit down the line).


Allow local schools form a guard of honour for the teams and maybe meet after the match..


Come to some arrangement with some local establishments in the Limrick area (Claws etc.)


I have others too but i just thought that it may be as much the whole franchise (supporters et al) for not embracing the competition as our domestic league.


These are our occasions in Thomond Park in a ground which is going in for a nip\tuck job soon and i think that it is a great chance for the MRSC to market itself and to dig the ground, which willhold the foundations of the castle which will launch the Magners league assault on all fronts and maybe give these players a taste of playing in a special Munster atmosphere.





Of coudrse if im wrong tell me to dun do bheal

[DEARGDOOM]

WELL SAID!

[wildRover]

I think the ML should target a few "family days" at the start and end of each season. One in Lk and the other in CK at the start and finish of the year, thats 4 days in total. Do it when the sun might be shining and the evening long. Bouncing castles, face painting, promotional activity, exhibitions, maybe Toyota could raffle a free car for a year or something, etc. etc.


Sell family tickets for a nominal price and target the less attractive games Borders etc.


There is a lot that could be done to boost the attractiveness of the ML. If the superstars can't play why not have them available for autographs, photo opportunities etc.

[glorob]

People need to remember that the MRSC is run by a Voluntary Committee of 8 and an Administrator provided by the Branch. They do a huge amount of work on our behalf but people must appreciate there are limits to what they can do.


As for marketing itself I would point out that at the end of the 2003/4 season the MRSC had effectively 2,000 members. Currently the membershipexceeds 9,000.

[wildRover]

Its not the MRSC's job IMO but the branch need to be doing it, putting the full time staff in place to organise it and then look for volunteers where necessary.

[epaddy]

People need to remember that the MRSC is run by a
Voluntary Committee of 8 and an Administrator provided by the Branch.
They do a huge amount of work on our behalf but people must appreciate
there are limits to what they can do.


As for marketing itself I would point out that at the end of the
2003/4 season the MRSC had effectively 2,000 members. Currently the
membershipexceeds 9,000.



Bandwagoners

[glorob]

People need to remember that the MRSC is run by a Voluntary Committee of 8 and an Administrator provided by the Branch. They do a huge amount of work on our behalf but people must appreciate there are limits to what they can do.


As for marketing itself I would point out that at the end of the 2003/4 season the MRSC had effectively 2,000 members. Currently the membershipexceeds 9,000.




Bandwagoners



Membership was actually capped up to 2004. Only 2,000 of our members have a guaranteed entitlement to a ticket for home HEC matches.


Following a rule change in 2004 Associate members were admitted (no HEC ticket guarantee). However you choose to describe these people it is a fact that over 7,000 of us paid up the €25 sub in June and half of that number bought a ML season ticket ( the 2,000 members entitled to the HEC tickets also bougt ML season tickets and paid an MRSC sub of €75).


If you do the sums you will see that MRSC members coughed up approx €325,000 in membership fees alone. This money of course assists the development of rugby in the province.


It is quite an achievement even if we are all bandwagoners. I bet you wish Leinster had something similar.

[McCloud]

People need to remember that the MRSC is run by a Voluntary Committee of 8 and an Administrator provided by the Branch. They do a huge amount of work on our behalf but people must appreciate there are limits to what they can do.


As for marketing itself I would point out that at the end of the 2003/4 season the MRSC had effectively 2,000 members. Currently the membershipexceeds 9,000.




Bandwagoners



Maybe so but it means loads of extra mullah for Munster so why turn it down?

[TST1]

More Rivoting input paddysmileys/rolleyes.gif

[epaddy]

People need to remember that the MRSC is run by a Voluntary
Committee of 8 and an Administrator provided by the Branch. They do a
huge amount of work on our behalf but people must appreciate there are
limits to what they can do.


As for marketing itself I would point out that at the end of the
2003/4 season the MRSC had effectively 2,000 members. Currently the
membershipexceeds 9,000.




Bandwagoners



Membership was actually capped up to 2004. Only 2,000 of our members
have a guaranteed entitlement to a ticket for home HEC matches.


Following a rule change in 2004 Associate members were admitted (no
HEC ticket guarantee). However you choose to describe these people it
is a fact that over 7,000 of us paid up the €25 sub in June and half of
that number bought a ML season ticket ( the 2,000 members entitled to
the HEC tickets also bougt ML season tickets and paid an MRSC sub of
€75).


If you do the sums you will see that MRSC members coughed up approx
€325,000 in membership fees alone. This money of course assists the
development of rugby in the province.


It is quite an achievement even if we are all bandwagoners. I bet you wish Leinster had something similar.





Far to easy smileys/lol.gif



Leinster do have something similar without your success. We got over
30,000 for a ML match (offical attendance say otherwise I know) and
have broken the 20,000 barrier for HEC pool games a number of times.
Not as many season ticket holders (our ground isnt big enough) but next
season should see a similar in terms of crowds with the RDS. Are all
MRSC memebers signed up for every match for the season? Do some MRSC
memebers not even have a season ticket at all? Both genuine questions
no fishing

[epaddy]

People need to remember that the MRSC is run by a Voluntary
Committee of 8 and an Administrator provided by the Branch. They do a
huge amount of work on our behalf but people must appreciate there are
limits to what they can do.


As for marketing itself I would point out that at the end of the
2003/4 season the MRSC had effectively 2,000 members. Currently the
membershipexceeds 9,000.




Bandwagoners



Maybe so but it means loads of extra mullah for Munster so why turn it down?



Who said anything about turning it down?

[glorob]

epaddy, between 5,000 and 5.500 MRSC members have ML season tickets. It is obligatory for the 2,000 Full Members to buy a ML season ticket. As stated about half of the Associate Members have a ML season ticket. Members can buy a single venue ( Musgrave or Thomond)or combined venue ML season ticket

[epaddy]

epaddy, between 5,000 and 5.500 MRSC members have ML
season tickets. It is obligatory for the 2,000 Full Members to buy a ML
season ticket. As stated about half of the Associate Members have a ML
season ticket. Members can buy a single venue ( Musgrave or
Thomond)or combined venue ML season ticket






Ok so the MRSC and Season tickets holders are not the same, I get you.
Why do people join the MRSC then? That 9,000 figure is very misleading

[glorob]

epaddy, between 5,000 and 5.500 MRSC members have ML season tickets. It is obligatory for the 2,000 Full Members to buy a ML season ticket. As stated about half of the Associate Members have a ML season ticket. Members can buy a single venue ( Musgrave or Thomond)or combined venue ML season ticket







Ok so the MRSC and Season tickets holders are not the same, I get you. Why do people join the MRSC then? That 9,000 figure is very misleading



Why is it misleading? All MRSC members pay a sub which is seperate from any payment for tickets. I assume they join because they support Munster Rugby. In addition when TP is rebuilt the MRSC will increase the cap on the number of full members (those with a HEC ticket guarantee and who must buy a ML season ticket) from 2,000 to 10,000 members. Those who are currently Associate Members will be first in the queue.


As far as I know most Supporters Clubs do not have a requirement that all members hold season tickets. I assume the MRSC would have a substamtial number of members living outside the province. As you know there are a few in Dublin and there are a few more overseas.

[rathbaner]

.....meanwhile back on topic...

I thinks it's a great idea but there isn't much time, if the atmosphere is
flat now imagine what it'll be like when half the place is demolished, or
when there's 20,000 empty seats instead of 6,000.

On another thread there's a discussion about the money that's rolling in
from the supporters, why not spend a little on a few bouncy castles, hot
dogs, face painters and some fizzy pop - all kids accompanied by an
adult in free.

We gotta build the ML and demand more of the players on the day

[Paddy Whac]

Is there a reson why OAPs aren't offered a reduction on the ticket prices for ML Games? Why can't season ticket holders apply online for a ticket for an OAP like they can for a student - max 2 tickets regardless of category?

[Jollygreengiant]

People need to remember that the MRSC is run by a Voluntary Committee of 8 and an Administrator provided by the Branch. They do a huge amount of work on our behalf but people must appreciate there are limits to what they can do.


As for marketing itself I would point out that at the end of the 2003/4 season the MRSC had effectively 2,000 members. Currently the membershipexceeds 9,000.





I am a full member of the MRSC myself and as far as im concerned getting involved in anything is a closed book but that is another days argument. Mine was for the betterment of Munster rugby as a whole and the MRSC being the single biggest organisation outside of the branch itself should maybe try to sit down with the branch and see if there is anything that they could pull together on.


I cant see it costing anyone only the branch mmoney if they were willing to give it.

[glorob]

People need to remember that the MRSC is run by a Voluntary Committee of 8 and an Administrator provided by the Branch. They do a huge amount of work on our behalf but people must appreciate there are limits to what they can do.


As for marketing itself I would point out that at the end of the 2003/4 season the MRSC had effectively 2,000 members. Currently the membershipexceeds 9,000.





I am a full member of the MRSC myself and as far as im concerned getting involved in anything is a closed book but that is another days argument. Mine was for the betterment of Munster rugby as a whole and the MRSC being the single biggest organisation outside of the branch itself should maybe try to sit down with the branch and see if there is anything that they could pull together on.


I cant see it costing anyone only the branch mmoney if they were willing to give it.





The limits I was talking about were not financial.They had more to do with time.


I am an Associate Member myself and had no problem getting involved. If you are interested in getting involved why not contact supportersclub@munsterrugby.ie

[Jollygreengiant]

Many hands make light work. It doesnt have to be the Supporters Club but it is the one thing we have a say in how things are ran and not the branch. Just thought that if a group got together and presented plans to the Munster branch how would they take it?smileys/surprised.gif


Connacht have some great initiatives runnging with their Friday night rugby and all it took was a bit of imagination

[mullet is gone]

People need to remember that the MRSC is run by a Voluntary Committee of 8 and an Administrator provided by the Branch. They do a huge amount of work on our behalf but people must appreciate there are limits to what they can do.


As for marketing itself I would point out that at the end of the 2003/4 season the MRSC had effectively 2,000 members. Currently the membershipexceeds 9,000.





That jump has nothing to do with marketing.

[glorob]

Many hands make light work. It doesnt have to be the Supporters Club but it is the one thing we have a say in how things are ran and not the branch. Just thought that if a group got together and presented plans to the Munster branch how would they take it?smileys/surprised.gif


Connacht have some great initiatives runnging with their Friday night rugby and all it took was a bit of imagination





Somethings are happening. There were some amusements at both the pre season friendly in Cork and the first ML game this season. They will be a Junior Supporters Club event prior to the ML match next week.Mini Rugby games take place at half time and their is alway a young mascot.


The MRSC has undergone huge growth and change in the last 3 seasons and it is still very much in a development stage. I suppose now that they have built the membership base the next challenge will be membership retention and also utilisation of the membership base so that events like you suggested can be organised and the workload spread across many and not just a few.


I am not disagreeing with your proposal per se. I am more making the point that the MRSC Committee have achieved a lot in the last 3 years and that they cannot do everything at the one time.

[lahinch_lass]

There are 9k supporters club members.. constant calls for volunteers to help out with various activities .. including someone to look after match-day mascots.. yet how many of those 9k actually stepped up to volunteer ???


Some activities get a large number of volunteers while others get none...


The committee is always open to suggestions from members - the matchday photographers came out of associate members constantly providing photos for the newsletter.


The newsletter team are constantly looking for articles from members, volunteers are needed to help run the kids activities for the junior club ..


seriously guys anyone that wants to get involved in something, or has a suggestion send the suggestion to the supporters club and send your names in if you are willing to help out with anything. The more people willing to help, the more the supporters club will be able to do.


But I will warn you if you have a suggestion, you'd better be prepared to help make it work! Just giving the committee a list of ideas is not going to get those ideas into place.. there's only so many hours in the day, and that committee spend a lot of time working on stuff that isn't necessarily visible to the members.