Keith Earls

[Harry]

I hear he was sensational last week on the development tour to Spain, 5 tries.


Anyone got some insider stuff on what the management are thinking, if he's good enoughlets see him in action I reckon.....

[Bitter As A Lemon]

No insider info, but he's playing well for Thomond also...reckon they should leave him play out the season with Thomond, will do him good in the long run

[Harry]

.......19 years old, son of Ger, won triple crown last season, scored winner in schools cup final, 5 tries last week, 5 U19 caps for ireland........he's a star in the making Bitter, do you think the Munster set up with leave him with Thomond, fecks sakesmileys/sad.gif. What's the name of the other Munchins centre who played with him that day, who is he playing with?

[Shannon Girl]

Eamonn Brodrick hes playing with the Cookies now. The two of them together are something else, unbelievable for Munchins last year!!

[glorob]

.......19 years old, son of Ger, won triple crown last season, scored winner in schools cup final, 5 tries last week, 5 U19 caps for ireland........he's a star in the making Bitter, do you think the Munster set up with leave him with Thomond, fecks sakesmileys/sad.gif. What's the name of the other Munchins centre who played with him that day, who is he playing with?





Eamon Broderick. He is playing with Young Munsters where his father (former SMC coach) has moved to coach the Under 20's.

[Arthur Guinness]

Was the other centre Broderick? I was at that match and Earls finished off that try very well but the outhalf and Broderick were the guys who made it initially. Earls got the ball only 6/7 times during the game and made good ground or did something constructive with it each time. I was surprised there wasn't more of an effort made to get the ball to him more often.

[JoeyFantastic]

No insider info, but he's playing well for Thomond also...reckon they should leave him play out the season with Thomond, will do him good in the long run


If he were playing in AIL Div1 I'd agree with you, is the standard in Div2 really good enough to help him through?

[Harry]

I'd love to see them both line out for us, especially Earls,it's at times like this when i'd love to know what Decy is thinking.

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Broderick is not playing well in avery averageCookies side, who will struggle this year and as such he wont develop- both of these guys are unlikely to come on much from playing where they are at present, no disrespect to either club but the standard is poor in AIBL2, 10 or so teams all equally as average as each other. Probably why the branchesseethe Provincial "A" games as necessary.


I admire both guys loyalty to their natural clubs, but it may hinder their development

Lads


As mentioned on another thread.Kidney was on that tour and was very impressed with him along with a couple of others. T'other day I was ata physiowho had worked closely with DK. The physio said that although DK would be aware of their progress he would have to have his eyes opened (no disrespect meant)in a sense. Still there is obviously a need for different options in the ML.Apparently they were savage over there and knowing that he was there would have inspired them even more.

[glorob]

Was the other centre Broderick? I was at that match and Earls finished off that try very well but the outhalf and Broderick were the guys who made it initially. Earls got the ball only 6/7 times during the game and made good ground or did something constructive with it each time. I was surprised there wasn't more of an effort made to get the ball to him more often.


Broderick was the other centre.


The reason he only got the ball a few times was that SMC had very little ball in the final. Pres won most of it but were scared to run with it in case they lost it and the SMC backline game into play. Pres were very good at winning the ball but fortunately they did not know what to do with it.

[sewa]

We have Halstead, Murphy, Kelly, Mafi and Mateus who all play centre. He will have to join the queue. Incidentally anyone know how Mateus is getting on? Is he playing AIL?

[JoeyFantastic]

Mateus is playing for UCC, but has been busy with Portugal games for the last few weeks.

[Upfront_1979]

could be interesting if portugal are the 3rd Europe team in our pool. Diogo will be playing against ussmileys/smile.gif

[socks]

if there's a centre's queue, i'd have diogo at the very back of it. in fact, i wouldn't even let him join the queue.

[menu14]

earls played on the wing in spain. i heard from an inside source he was sensationaland only got the ball about six times. time to give him a chance on the wing i think

[sewa]

if there's a centre's queue, i'd have diogo at the very back of it. in fact, i wouldn't even let him join the queue.


Have you seen him? No one seems to have much info on him. Mossie should be on that list too.

[red4life]

i reckon we wont see them until after christmas at earliest. now is hardly the time to throw two kids in, most of the pack away and the team in bad need of a result. before we see them atart we will see them come on for 10/15 min cameos when the game has been won IMO. great prospects both of them though.

[socks]

haven't seen him but don't need to - the story about his 'discovery' is enough for me.

[JoeyFantastic]

if there's a centre's queue, i'd have diogo at the very back of it. in fact, i wouldn't even let him join the queue.


Have you seen him? No one seems to have much info on him. Mossie should be on that list too.








Someone saw him playing for UCC, said he was quite useful but a little small?


Any news on Mossie's injury? Where do Shannon intend to play him this year?

[glorob]

earls played on the wing in spain. i heard from an inside source he was sensationaland only got the ball about six times. time to give him a chance on the wing i think





As far as I recall he played there in one or 2 Under 19 Internationals as well.

[menu14]

earls might get a run against the ospreys i'd say. broadrick is some way off that standard. no where near as good as ye think guys

[Paddie]

haven't seen him but don't need to - the story about his 'discovery' is enough for me.


Was that the story where Kidney saw him laying out cones on a pitch while on holiday and thought to himself "I'll sign that! Two Legs? No limp? Perfect"

[JoeyFantastic]

earls might get a run against the ospreys i'd say. broadrick is some way off that standard. no where near as good as ye think guys


Keith, is that you? Get a haircut.

[JoeyFantastic]

haven't seen him but don't need to - the story about his 'discovery' is enough for me.


Was that the story where Kidney saw him laying out cones on a pitch while on holiday and thought to himself "I'll sign that! Two Legs? No limp? Perfect"





I heard he was table football in a pub in Portugal and Deccy noticed he had the full range of skills to make it at one of Europe's top rugby clubs.

[menu14]

i don't get it? smileys/c&#111;nfused.gif

[JoeyFantastic]

i don't get it? smileys/c&#111;nfused.gif


Just joking, everytime someone really praises a player I'm curious as to whether the player himself would post the same things. The haircut thing is becuase I've never seen Earls with anything other than a blade 1 or 2.

[Culann]

isnt great that we have another home grown diamond emerging .. if Keith is as Good as his Father was . by God he will be class. I beleive that if Ger was plying his trade with a team in Dublin when in his prime he would have 40 or 50 caps for his country .. the man had it all, speed, strenght and football and a Gentleman to booth..I loved watching him in action.The apple does not fall far from the tree so to speak .. The best of luck to Keith

[Harry]

hope so Culann. If he good enough he old enough in my book, these lads need one of the easy games to get blooded, maybe the Leinster match in TP at Christmas, yeah that's the onesmileys/wink.gif

[menu14]

oh sorry joey. no i'm not him don't worry. his father is now coaching thomond under 20's and they are going well in the ail under 20 division two by all accounts

[toomey]

Luke Fitzgerald got fast tracked because he was a class act. if Earls is good enough he`s old enough(at least fro the ML)

[bruffian]

i posted this elsewhere as well.shows broderick and earls in action in the senior cup last year for munchins


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oCOLYezvqc

[Munsterboy]

ROG mentioned in an interview not long ago that they had Earls training with them and that he was looking good. He can't be that far from getting a bit of game time. He has the pace to play on the wing and I wouldn't see any harm in giving him a run there soon. The problems we're having in the ML at the moment won't be fixed by playing him but they won't get any worse either.

[Arthur Guinness]

Just scored a superb try against the NZ Maoris in the Churchill Cup. On Sky Sports 1 at the mo.

[Ruck]

An excellent try.
Frank Murphy did very well in the build up to that score.

[Old Dog]

Is it obligatory for Limerick centres to look like skinheads?

[Junster2]

Good try alright but I thought he was really weak in defence... mind you he wasn't the only one out there who was out of sorts vs the NZ Maoris... pity as it initially looked like they could pull something off... too many mistakes cost them dearly...


back to Earls though and I think he can't be our option at IC for the HCup next year... he's really not yet at that level... in fact he makes me think more of an OC than an IC which means we really need to buy a serious n12 for next year if Hal is going


Incidentally theother playerwe talked about as a potential acquisition for next year (Rua Tipoki) played at 12 and captained the NZ side... he doesn't look like he hasa Hal type frame but seems to be really very reliable and a decent kicker out of hand which always gives more options... personally I'd go for another SA lad as they have very good centres there at the moment!

[Jollygreengiant]

Earls tackling was weak at bes. They were flying up in defence which makes it hard to tackle if you have feet opposing you like Tipoki, Tahan Ellison and Gear, they just side step you and off. He fell off a few and did look to be lacking in physique in a coupl of hits. Thought his opposite number was excellent (Tipoki) his feet and distribution were top drawer.

[RobbieG]

Is it obligatory for Limerick centres to look like skinheads?

as much as it is for Leinster backs to look like boyband members

[Tony Soprano]

isnt great that we have another home grown diamond emerging .. if Keith is as Good as his Father was . by God he will be class. I beleive that if Ger was plying his trade with a team in Dublin when in his prime he would have 40 or 50 caps for his country .. the man had it all, speed, strenght and football and a Gentleman to booth..I loved watching him in action.The apple does not fall far from the tree so to speak .. The best of luck to Keith


Ger Earls good player and all that he was - was a headcase on the pitch. That more than anything else was ehy he didn't play for Ireland 40 or 50 times

[cornerboy]

Could be good when he bulks up a bit. Will start hisMunster carear as a winger surely, not nearly ready for centre.

[sewa]

Hide him out on the wing? No way. Throw him in at 12 and see if he sinks or swims. Sure thats what the A league is there for

[JoeyFantastic]

Hide him out on the wing? No way. Throw him in at 12 and see if he sinks or swims. Sure thats what the A league is there for

I agree, he was up against sheer class last night, most of the ML IC's wouldn't be anywhere near the same standard, esp during the world cup.

[Arthur Guinness]

Is it obligatory for Limerick centres to look like skinheads?





Earls was an entrant in the Johnny Sexton lookalike competition.

[Munsterboy]

Bradley gave him a shot and he did ok in difficult circumstances, scored a lovely try too.


To put things in perspective, hewas directly up against a lad many are hoping will be our big name signing for next season!


On that performance he's definitely ready for the ML,preferably on the wing but he could do a job atcentre if he had to.

[JoeyFantastic]

Bradley gave him a shot and he did ok in difficult circumstances, scored a lovely try too.


To put things in perspective, hewas directly up against a lad many are hoping will be our big name signing for next season!


On that performance he's definitely ready for the ML,preferably on the wing but he could do a job atcentre if he had to.




I dunno, he is ready for the ml, but Ireland has a shortage of IC's coming through, would he be best served on the wing or in the centres? It's obvious he wasn't used to the position and has loads of work before he's HEC standard but no harm to convert him now.

[ahanagran]

i thought his defence was poor at best but he was pretty good in attack always looked to make a break. he wouldnt get as exposed on the wing however

[JoeyFantastic]

i thought his defence was poor at best but he was pretty good in attack always looked to make a break. he wouldnt get as exposed on the wing however


But how used to playing defensively at IC is he? First time I've ever heard of him being played at IC, any Thomond people know more?

[lahinch_lass]

the strange thing last night was looking at sexton, earls and frank murphy .. not one of them was doing what you'd normally expect of a player with those particular numbers on their backs.


Earls was very good going forward, sexton was very good in defence, and frank muphy was playing more like ROG than anything else ! The entire irish backline was very raw looking, not enough experience back there at all, and they paid the price for their lack of experience. But there was definitely signs of some serious potential for the future. None of the them were afraid of the Maori's, and every one of them worked their socks off to the bitter end.


Earls is an interesting prospect, he didn't do very much defensively from what I could see, but his awarness going forward was top notch.

[Jollygreengiant]

Thought he always played at 12 for his school Munchins. Big step up i know...

[Cathal]

He played at 13 for his school and has been used at wing by Ireland u20s.

First time at 12 AFAIK but maybe someone who watches Thomond or any other teams he's played for can confirm?

[HurlerOnDeDitch]

Very interesting to see some of the performances last night.


Tipoki looks a fine player,he could certainly do a job for us in the centre.


Earls and Sexton both showed that they have great potential, but neither really look ready yet.


I thought O'Sullivan struggled with the pace of the game at times but the experience will have done him good.


Overall that was basically Ireland's 4th team up against a strong Maori side, they were well beaten in the end but put up a creditable performance, particularly in the first half.

[Blindsider.]

Tipoki is not coming!!!!

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Canterbury utility back Caleb Ralph will switch allegiance to Tasman for the upcoming Air New Zealand Cup season.

Twenty-five
player transfers have been released by the New Zealand Rugby Union this
afternoon, including five announced in October last year.

Northland is one of the big benefactors of the transfers.

They
gain Auckland's Justin Collins, Leo Taliu and Tony Koonwaiyou , as well
as Canterbury's Mike Davis, and Waikato's Steven Baker.

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confirms the transfer of Rua Tipoki from North Harbour to Canterbury,
although it is unclear whether he will actually play in the competition.@@@@/SPAN>

At
the time of the transfer it was thought he'd return on loan to North
Harbour, although he may also exercise his overseas options.


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Considering we were deliberately fielding the youngsters, not just because the second string were in Argentina but also because we finally seem to be looking at what we can do to bring through youth.

[Drick]

They are only transfers blindsider. Tipoki is contracted with the NZRU until the end of this season. He may sign yet.

[Point]

They are only transfers blindsider. Tipoki is contracted with the NZRU until the end of this season. He may sign yet.


Stuff Tipoki. How many times has he messed us about ?

[Drick]

none is the answer. he is contracted with the NZRU so he cannot have messed us about.

[Point]

none is the answer. he is contracted with the NZRU so he cannot have messed us about.


Not correct. Go the shed at the end of the garden and check it out.

[bruffian]

Thought he always played at 12 for his school Munchins. Big step up i know...


whenever i saw him he was outside centre for munchins,same with thomond.


he played outhalf in the senior cup for nessans when he was only in 3rd year! after that he transferred to munchins.hes actually a fairly decent kicker

[The Goy in Red]

I've been reading over past match reports and i've seen him scoring plenty of conversions so he must be a competent footballer

[Gaillimh]

Scored again today, helping Ireland A beat Scotland A for the plate...he knows where the whitewash is anyway!

[Drahcir]

but will deccie pick him god forbid we have a back thats under 21

[danthefan]

Seems impressive. He should be getting a game on the wing ahead of Dowling or TOL.

Would be worth fielding him at wing to start with and then easing him into games in the centres with Mafi and Murphy. In fact back line of Warwick, Lewis, Murphy, Mafi and Earls on wings and Mossie or Payne at FB would be pretty handy.

[Drahcir]

and carney?

[Jollygreengiant]

Deccie doesnt have a huge grá for Limerick backs imho

[sewa]

Not impressed with his defence. Its nowhere near where it should be as anyone who watched the games rather than just read the match scoresheet will have noticed.

[JoeyFantastic]

Not impressed with his defence. Its nowhere near where it should be as anyone who watched the games rather than just read the match scoresheet will have noticed.

Might be a more plausible reason as to why he has been moved from centre to wing than the motion we have too many good centres. Still, it can be worked on, after 9 years of pro rugby O'Gara seems to be getting the hang of it.

[sewa]

Absolutely Joey. There is no questionabout his attacking. He runs great lines. Tackling will surely come good over time.

[HurlerOnDeDitch]

Absolutely Joey. There is no questionabout his attacking. He runs great lines. Tackling will surely come good over time.


Yep. I don't think his tackling is too bad, it just seems that he gets out of position a bit too often. Also, while he is pretty strong already, the type of heavy traffic that runs through the 12 channel is a lot for a young guy to handle, he had some very big men running at him.


Time will take care of both of those issues in terms of learning his position and gaining strength.


The guy has bags of potential but is clearly still learning the game at the top level.


I'm happy enough to see him brouught through when he is ready rather than throwing him in too early.


I think we will see a fair bit of him next season in the first team.

[Sarsfield]

Not impressed with his defence. Its nowhere near where it should be as anyone who watched the games rather than just read the match scoresheet will have noticed.

His wing defence was fine but he was exposed at centre

[Cathal]

Exposed at inside centre after playing at wing for u20s and first Ireland A match even though he's an outside centre.

Not too shabby if you ask me.

and carney?


I was thinking during WC. After that would be:


10 - ROG
11 - Mafi/Earls/Dowling
12 - Warwick/Lewis
13 - Murphy/Mafi/Earls/Lewis
14 - Carney/Earls
15 - Lawlor/Carney/Payne


Lot of good players to pick from

[HurlerOnDeDitch]

Lots of talent there.


12 still sticks out like a sore thumb though. smileys/sad.gif

It does and that worries me, Lewis and Mafi are basically 13s suited to playing wing, that doesn't fill me with confidence for playing 12. Murphy is probably a nearer bet in terms of skill set but he needs to get a good run there.

[Cathal]

The only thing that makes me think Barry would make it at 12 is that he has managed to free his hands and put people into a gap because of it - putting ROG into space for the non-try someone in Cork, Scarlets maybe?
His defence seems solid enough at 13, reckon he'd be ok defensively at 12.

Can he catch the ball often enough though?
What's his passing like?

[Ruck]

and carney?


I was thinking during WC. After that would be:


10 - ROG
11 - Mafi/Earls/Dowling
12 - Warwick/Lewis
13 - Murphy/Mafi/Earls/Lewis
14 - Carney/Earls
15 - Lawlor/Carney/Payne


Lot of good players to pick from

It seems that people are forgetting about John Kelly rather easily these days. He still has something to offer imo.

[Cathal]

Was he injured at the end of the season or did he just drop off the radar a bit?

[Ruck]

He's spent most of 2007 so far injured.

[rorymagory]

Did I not read here a few weeks ago that John Kelly ws joining Connacht??

[JoeyFantastic]

Did I not read here a few weeks ago that John Kelly ws joining Connacht??

April fool.

[Sarsfield]

SFAIK, JK's contract takes him up until the end of the RWC only non? In terms of an old, reliable head it certainly has merit, especially if Hurley is getting a run at 15 (he and Mossie appeared to have a decent understanding).


During the WC?
9. TOL
10. Manning

12. Mafi
13. Warick/Murphy

11. Mossie/Dowling/Earls
14. Kelly
15. Hurley

Afterwards? Who knows? I really hope that DK starts making returning players earn the jersey where the incumbent has shown enough to be in pole position. I'm not that optimistic however...

[HurlerOnDeDitch]

and carney?


I was thinking during WC. After that would be:


10 - ROG
11 - Mafi/Earls/Dowling
12 - Warwick/Lewis
13 - Murphy/Mafi/Earls/Lewis
14 - Carney/Earls
15 - Lawlor/Carney/Payne


Lot of good players to pick from




It seems that people are forgetting about John Kelly rather easily these days. He still has something to offer imo.



True.


Kelly has always been an underrrated player. He is a class act and still has a lot to offer Munster.

I wasn't forgetting JK I was working on the basis he only signed a half year contract and was looking to retire - last news I saw. If he stays around I'd actually say move him into the midfield if you're playing Earls at IC but wing elsewise.


On Murphy making IC, he has the fast feet, accelaration, eye for a gap, ability to offload that would be creative and a threat there. He looks reasonably comfortable in terms of kicking style so that's a plus but I don't think he's a great kicker. In terms of pass, he's a pretty good passer from what I've seen, certainly I don't believe we'd suffer there. The issue would be size. He's tall and thin and whilst his skills are great for the role I wonder if he'd suffer physically if opposition need to be fixed to him and he looks to release out of the tackle.

[rorymagory]

Did I not read here a few weeks ago that John Kelly ws joining Connacht??

April fool.



smileys/redface.gifWhy I outta...

[beanflick]

During the WC?
9. TOL
10. Manning

12. Mafi
13. Warick/Murphy

11. Mossie/Dowling/Earls
14. Kelly
15. Hurley

I would go
15.mossie
14.earls
13.murphy
12.mafi
11.lewis
10.warwick
9.tol

[JoeyFantastic]

None of the provinces should be allowed play an unqualifiable outhalf next year. Do people think O'Gara is going to be around for ever or something? Leinster should be obliged to play Sexton or Keatley when the Irish players are away and move Contepomi to IC.

[HandsomeMacCool]

None of the provinces should be allowed play an unqualifiable outhalf next year. Do people think O'Gara is going to be around for ever or something? Leinster should be obliged to play Sexton or Keatley when the Irish players are away and @@@@SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">move Contepomi to IC.@@@@/SPAN>


Yeah D'Arcy and O'Driscoll to the bench, worst centre pairing in Irish history lik

[Pirate]

None of the provinces should be allowed play an unqualifiable outhalf next year. Do people think O'Gara is going to be around for ever or something? Leinster should be obliged to play Sexton or Keatley when the Irish players are away and @@@@SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">move Contepomi to IC.@@@@/SPAN>


Yeah D'Arcy and O'Driscoll to the bench, worst centre pairing in Irish history lik


think you missed the trend of the conversation there.... DURING WC

[HandsomeMacCool]

So contepomi won't be in France?????

But I missed the other bit about the six nations which is a very valid point..........................

[Red Hand Hero]

Interestingly people have seemed to have ignored Wynne (who started at 12 for the U-20's) he is bigger iirc than either Cave or Earls and has played a few games for Connacht. He needs to be playing regularly at 12 for the westies next year as 12 is currently as big a problem as outhalf.

Prop doesn't worry me (at the moment) as much:

Out of the likely lads i.e. RWC members we have young fella's pushing through in most areas:

Props:
Ross, D.Fitzpatrick, D.Hurley, Buckley, Knoop, Hogan

Hookers:
Cronin, Philpott, Fogarty Jr.+Sr.(shoudl junior be Leinsterised?!)

Locks:Toner, Caldwell (if his recent form isn't flash in the pan stuff), Hogan after he beefs up.

Backrow:Jesus we all know the score here.

Scrumhalfssmileys/surprised.gif'Loughlin, Willis, O'Donoghue

Outhalfs:Keatley, don't know if Sexton or Manning are credible alternatives.

Centres:Wynne, Earls, Cave, McFaddyn

Wings:Earls, Monaghan

Fullback:That fella McCarron was pish IMO so not sure.

[shambo]

Locks:Toner, Caldwell (if his recent form isn't flash in the pan stuff), Hogan after he beefs up.






wouldn't agree on the locks- we are absolutely goosed there- wouldn't rate any of those. As for full back-what about luke fitzgerald- the best since o driscoll.

[JoeyFantastic]

What about Donnacha Ryan and O'Connor?

[Cathal]

Locks:Toner, Caldwell (if his recent form isn't flash in the pan stuff), Hogan after he beefs up.


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wouldn't agree on the locks- we are absolutely goosed there- wouldn't rate any of those. As for full back-what about luke fitzgerald- the best since o driscoll.

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Ryan and O'Connor at Munster, Gannon at Connacht and Caldwell at Ulster are all developing away.

[The Goy in Red]

Felix jones for fullback??

[shambo]

Ryan and O'Connor at Munster, Gannon at Connacht and Caldwell at Ulster are all developing away.


<!- Signature ->Don't see any of them being world class which is what is needed.

[JoeyFantastic]

World class is a pretty big ask, I think Ryan has shown enough to say
he could be a great Munster player, after all, not many rookie players
dismantle the Ulster lineout as well as he did, and he scored a nice try
in his HEC cameo.

[shambo]

the point i'm making indirectly is that the current group of players are irreplaceable- once in a generation type players. when they retire our international fortunes will recede as well. the guys coming through are very good- just don't see an o driscoll or an o connell or an o gara amd that's the difference between winning test macthes against the top 4 and losing.

[JoeyFantastic]

I think you over-estimate O'Connell but I agree we might never see a
player be as good as O'Driscoll has been for so long, top player in the
world in his position for how many years now?

[Red Hand Hero]

As Caldwell is a player i've seen quite a bit of i'd debate your point shambo. He has came on tremendously well in the past 6months it's incredible. As i've said he is very raw but potential wise i think he could become a top player for ireland. Ryan has seemed a fairly decent player but missed out on the CC in favour of Farley or was he injured? Problem for him would be (i imagine) that he's stuck behind 3 of irelands locks and Kidney is from the EOS school of change.

[JoeyFantastic]

Ryan is injured at the minute.

Ryan will make it to international level in next couple of seasons but will be limited to a few games cos he's too close to POC and DOC age wise.

[An Fear Bolg]

Ryan will make it to international level in next couple of seasons but will be limited to a few games cos he's too close to POC and DOC age wise.

You reckon? There's about 4-5 years between them, I think. I guess, Ryan'll be 29 when DOC and POC are 33ish.

He could do with a bit of weight, D.Ryan. With a bit more bulk, he might give DOC a run for his money in a few years.

[bruffian]

i reckon ryan might make it alright,however i reckon o connor will never go beyond simoly being a good AIL player,maybe a move to the english 1st division might be the way to go

[bruffian]

i reckon ryan might make it alright,however i reckon o connor will never go beyond simoly being a good AIL player,maybe a move to the english 1st division might be the way to go

[Cathal]

I have very rarely seen SOC play but he certainly didn't look out of place against Ulster, the collective rubbish first half apart.

[No.8]

Ryan will make it to international level in next couple of seasons but will be limited to a few games cos he's too close to POC and DOC age wise.

You reckon? There's about 4-5 years between them, I think. I guess, Ryan'll be 29 when DOC and POC are 33ish.

He could do with a bit of weight, D.Ryan. With a bit more bulk, he might give DOC a run for his money in a few years.



he has put ona nice bit of weight over the last 2 years. starting to bulk up a good bit. Not a fella who'd put on weight to easily

[An Fear Bolg]

Ryan will make it to international level in next couple of seasons but will be limited to a few games cos he's too close to POC and DOC age wise.

You reckon? There's about 4-5 years between them, I think. I guess, Ryan'll be 29 when DOC and POC are 33ish.

He could do with a bit of weight, D.Ryan. With a bit more bulk, he might give DOC a run for his money in a few years.



he has put ona nice bit of weight over the last 2 years. starting to bulk up a good bit. Not a fella who'd put on weight to easily

Yeah, he's scrawny out. smileys/lol.gif